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Frustration mounts for DeVante Parker, ready for “big” season

I doubt he will be a Julio Jones or AJ Green as some hope he will be, but I think he'll be damn good and if fans hold back on judging him against great players he'll be fine. I really dislike the thought that a young player has to be on par with greatness or he's a bum or bust. When people talk about the all time great receivers of recent years, like Calvin Johnson, Terrell Owens, Randy Moss, Chad Johnson, AJ Green, Julio Jones and so on and so on I see a lot of great players with great numbers, but no championships. A corp of Landry, Stills and Parker is good enough. Sure elite would be nice but good compintent professional play is good enough to win games. I know when you compare him to the other top receivers drafted early in the 2015 draft only Amari Cooper has had a better start.
 
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I doubt he will be a Julio Jones or AJ Green as some hope he will be, but I think he'll be damn good and if fans hold back on judging him against great players he'll be fine. I really dislike the thought that a young player has to be on par with greatness or he's a bum or bust. When people talk about the all time great receivers of recent years, like Calvin Johnson, Terrell Owens, Randy Moss, Chad Johnson, AJ Green, Julio Jones and so on and so on I see a lot of great players with great numbers, but no championships. A corp of Landry, Stills and Parker are good enough. Sure elite would be nice but good compintent professional play is good enough to win games.

I agree. IF you've got a D that is strong up the middle and top 15 overall, and a well-coached team overall. And an OL that is strong up the middle.

I agree that a healthy Landry, Stills and Parker are good enough to win with. Just make sure those other things are there.

LD
 
There were at least two glaring instances this past season, on offense. [I don't have time to go through all the games to pull them out, sorry. A grievous one is the ending of the first NE game. Watch his eyes, feet and timing on the eventual leap. Pretty horrid. Misplayed ball in air and had no chance to contest and catch it.] And one on defense: he misplayed the ball in the air, threw timing off, and missed an easy INT (on a Hail Mary). Not an alpha at all, on those plays. Parker does well when he can run the pattern and leap in rhythm, to the expected catch point, where the defender doesn't have equal sight for the ball, and no safety is worried about. If there are multiple defenders and it's truly a jump ball, he doesn't seem to do as well.

LD

Weak argument for his ball skills by leaning on two playground type plays. You're really trying to reach here in singling out just a few off-script instances when truth is he's shown a very good amount of his alpha abilities at receiver in typical passing situations when normal route progressions and timing are in play. No worries, you'll be happy when you're proven wrong as you are now, but apparently need irrelevant fantasy statistics to be convinced otherwise.
 
The problem isn't just a lack of targets. It's also what he did when targeted. Or what he didn't do. It was eye-opening last year to see Parker on high-value, game-changing plays -- where he was asked to go up and get a ball to win a game or ice it. Multiple times he misplayed the ball in the air, badly, or mistimed jumps, leading to INTs or incomplete. Someone said that Parker hasn't been the same on these kinds of plays since landing on his back -- I'm not sure if that's it, but it does look like he is looking to protect himself instead of high-tracking and high-pointing the ball in traffic -- leading to awkward attempts, mistimed leaps, etc. Definitely not alpha play out of that player.

I've only seen sparks, but never a full burn, of alpha play out of him. Not confident that that's who is is.

LD
Edit: It was Pandarilla that noted Parker's issues since landing on his back hard.

That's just my own opinion...

It's gonna be fun when we play the Raiders. First matchup between Parker and Amari Cooper. I see that game as possibly the most entertaining game of the regular season.
 
That's just my own opinion...

It's gonna be fun when we play the Raiders. First matchup between Parker and Amari Cooper. I see that game as possibly the most entertaining game of the regular season.

Even though they won't be matching up and I truly appreciate the talent of Parker, Cooper is far and away the better WR. He may in fact be one of the best in the NFL. His route running abilities are phenomenal.
 
Weak argument for his ball skills by leaning on two playground type plays. You're really trying to reach here in singling out just a few off-script instances when truth is he's shown a very good amount of his alpha abilities at receiver in typical passing situations when normal route progressions and timing are in play. No worries, you'll be happy when you're proven wrong as you are now, but apparently need irrelevant fantasy statistics to be convinced otherwise.

It wasn't just two plays. And the kind of plays I'm talking about are the ones that separate the elite from the wannabe-elite. Although I will admit that I may be seeing the glass half empty instead of half full...

Maybe I've been conditioned by years of Dolphin ineptitude and head-scratching personnel decisions and coaching failures?

Pavlov's salivating half-empty dog glasses. Or something like that, lol.

LD
 
This is the year for him to either be that guy we drafted, or turn in to compliment. It's good he seems to get it, as his work ethic is improving and the coaching staff is noticing. If you look at very good to great WRs in the NFL today many had the same struggles as Parker with inconsistency and hard time time staying healthy before they broke out in their 3rd or 4th season, (Antonio Brown, Julio Jones, and D Thomas, etc etc.). Not saying he will be these guys but the history is there to say he could break out.
 
Well hopefully he has the notion of his foot being busted out of his mind. It had to be in the back of his head ****ing with him. At the end of last season it appeared his anxiety about the foot disappeared.
 
It wasn't just two plays. And the kind of plays I'm talking about are the ones that separate the elite from the wannabe-elite. Although I will admit that I may be seeing the glass half empty instead of half full...

Maybe I've been conditioned by years of Dolphin ineptitude and head-scratching personnel decisions and coaching failures?

Pavlov's salivating half-empty dog glasses. Or something like that, lol.

LD

I hear ya. I'm not looking for Parker to be an elite WR. I see him being a very good one, and a solid contributor among some very fine talent in Landry and Stills. He has an important role here and offers a different skillset than the others. I couldn't care less about a big individual statistical season as long as he is a starting contributor to the offense's much needed increased points per game.
 
Parker has two NFL seasons under his belt. Let's take this in pieces to understand where he can go.

As a senior in college he knew his chance to become an NFL player, get drafted high, secure his financial future, and live his dream was very closely correlated to his performance his final year in college. Being injured dramatically reduced his chance to show he could be great. So, he rushed himself back, got onto the field, played hurt, and was fantastic. Still, he wasn't fully healed.

Then preparing for the draft he was required to focus on explosive traits, such as his forty time, which he ran in 4.45, and his vertical jump, in which he jumped 36.5", and his broad jump where he leaped 125". All of these explosive activities put a high strain on an unhealed foot. So, like many rookies, he came into the NFL as an injured player who needed to heal. This isn't talked about a lot, but these same reasons cause a lot of rookies to come in hurt. It's a compounding of their focus to play hurt to show out for the pre-draft process. As a result, we get a lot of injuries that linger, like Parker's, and a lot more that are over-stressed and cause big problems just before the draft. This is not an uncommon thing.

Fast forward to Parker as a rookie ... and let me say that word again ... rookie. He has heard all of his life about how he needs to work to be great, but at every level he has simply been great because he has superior athletic ability. He comes in injured but wants to play ... so doesn't let it heal. Like most warriors he tells his coaches he is fine, and plays on it when he shouldn't. Preseason isn't really a challenge. Lots of drill work without contact. Minimal padded practices. Only a few quarters of actual play in games and even that is vanilla coverages against veterans who are trying not to get injured or players who likely will never start an NFL game. It's not hard.

Then comes the regular season. All of a sudden the speed of the game ramps up dramatically. The physicality of the defenders jumps tremendously. For the first time in his life, he isn't faster or bigger than the CB's. They know exactly what he is going to do before he does it. Now, he needs every ounce of his athletic ability ... and his foot is failing him. His explosion isn't there, it is replaced by pain he is afraid to show. For the first time in his life, he isn't dominant ... he isn't even good. Of course in his heart he knows that it is all because of this foot he didn't let heal. As he heals a bit he shows flashes of the player he knows he can be. In his mind, he just needs to heal and he will physically dominate again. He is wrong. It takes more than that, but he doesn't realize that yet.

Now his second year comes along. He just assumed he would heal by not playing. But he didn't keep his body in pristine shape. He didn't take his craft seriously enough. He was born with physical gifts that Jarvis Landry could only dram of having with true elite speed and size. But it made him believe he would always succeed and he didn't learn the valuable lesson Landry learned ... that to be great you need to outwork everyone else. I call that the Jerry Rice work ethic. So, while DVP thinks season two will see him dominate and become a superstar ... it begins with Gase leaving him at home, sending a clear message that he needs to shape up. Parker does what he has always done, relies on his physical ability, and shows some of his immaturity by being late to meetings and skipping voluntary throwing sessions with Tannehill. He thinks he can just flip the switch and be great. But as season two showed him ... he is just ordinary when he fails to put in the requisite effort. He is slowed by foot, hamstring and lower body injuries ... and he's no longer 17, so his body doesn't bounce back quite as quickly . Parker is NOT the success he expects to be.

As the season ends, everyone is talking about how Landry is already a legend. Everyone is debating how valuable Stills is and how much we need him. And people are putting Parker into the same questionable boat as Leonte Caroo. His own self-reflection tells him he has had two NFL season and is being viewed as a bust by the pundits. FINALLY, he starts to get it. Stills is a talented WR who is a great grinder. Landry is a talented WR who is a great grinder. They never miss meetings or workouts. They never fall victim to nagging injuries. They're always at the facility lifting, running, and studying film. They're always running routes again to perfect them well after practice has ended. They work during the offseason like they have a game that Sunday. They eat right. They drink right. They talk non-stop about grinding. They live grinding.

So Parker is at a bit of a crossroads. He has a 4 year contract with a team-owned 5th year option. Based on past performance, he's an average NFL player, with no great accomplishments. If he wants to become a good player, he needs to devote his life to the temple of football. He needs to work at it EVERY day. He needs to prioritize work over fun. He needs to prioritize work over friends. He needs to prioritize work over family. And, if he truly wants to become great, he needs to make the transcendent step of devotion and adopt the Jerry Rice work ethic.

We've heard the platitudes. We've seen the flashes. We notice that Parker has strengthened his lower body. The stage is set. If Parker wants to become great, he is the only one who can do it. He has size bigger and longer than Jerry Rice. He has speed faster than Jerry Rice. He has good hands and excellent length to be a mismatch target. He has the after the catch running ability to generate large amounts of YAC. He has the size and length to be a red zone threat and rack up lots of TD's. He has the long speed to catch deep balls and generate high YPC. If he wants to be thought of in the same breath as AJ Green, the physical ability is there. All it takes is complete dedication.

This year is year 3. That is the typical breakout year for WR's. Many today show up earlier, but it's not uncommon to make the breakthrough in year 3. Those that do not ... tend not to make a breakthrough at all. The NFL is littered with guys like Justin Hunter who have all the tools but haven't given the effort developing themselves to make them great ... or even good ... or even earning a roster spot.

If he waits until year 4, he'll be lumped into a not so generous group of players who "only produced in a contract year" generating a lot of skepticism about offering him a big contract. Year 4 is the last chance saloon for big contracts. And if you're hurt in year 4, you're SOL. So, IMHO, if he's going to prove he wants to be great. This year, year 3, is the year he must prove it. I think he can. And more importantly, I think he will.
 
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Him rapping in his free time was a sign that the wasn't ready to play?

Ehh thats not what I said but to clarify he was doing stuff on there you would expect from a 15 year old. He seems to have curbed that a bit I was just pointing out that he might be maturing
 
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