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Barry Jackson: New Dolphin Timmons says he’s not in decline, but evaluators have mixed views

Watched his interview and came away with a few impressions. The guy doesn't look very conditioned right now. Sure he has time to get into game shape but he looked a bit "bulkier than I was expecting.

For the talk of him being a leader figure, he didn't come across very well spoken nor very animated nor tough/passionate sounding.

Again, the guys play over 10 years speaks for itself so this is not to slight any of that. I was just hoping to see from the interview a guy in top shape and with a bit of the eye of the Tiger, to help turn our LB woes around. I didn't see that guy, just another vet with a job.

It's unfair to read a lot into these, but that's human nature and often you can learn a lot from body language and how a guy holds himself.

Wow. I saw none of that. Sounds like your reading a lot into a little. I thought he came off very mature and handle the questions quite well. Not well spoken? pffff
 
should be a good guy for raekwon to pattern his game after and learn from. kiko doesn't strike me as the take a guy under his wing type and Timmons roles in the nfl in terms of strong side thumper in a 34 or mike thumper in a 43 long term wise are exactly what raekwons ideal fits look to be

they'll both be miscast at strong but someones got to bite the bullet for the short term it appears. unless it's koa again which puts one of these guys on the bench as a 2 deep and I doubt it's the $11.5 mil guaranteed man
 
Ya I don't know either but he sure as hell didn't seem like he missed a beat his last 2 games.

Ask Matt Moore

Everyone we pick up is always on their decline or something's always wrong.

It's tiring to always see the same BS.

Sincerely, The Life of a Dolphins fan lol

LOL... :sneaky Tell that to Ndamukong Suh. :p
 
the guy who Timmons game was most like in the class in terms of 34 strong side ilb being the ideal true fit for his game is kendall beckwith. raekwons more the 43 mike type but you gonna have some give and take with the athlete and the range there...so plan for it...gonna have to make some schematic adjustments or counter plays to offset. I have no doubts though that Miami drafted raekwon with long term 3 down mike in their mind...a lot of schemes it would be an auto no go our current one yeah maybe...

it's where we will get the most bang for our buck long term with raekwon at mike it's also where we gonna have the most give and take.

I also saw where he's listed at 243 so that's 5 more lbs than his combine weight which he no doubt dropped to run fast. I'm tellin ya right now though you can't afford to scrape any of that athlete if it's gonna play every down in the nickel long term.
 
Watched his interview and came away with a few impressions. The guy doesn't look very conditioned right now. Sure he has time to get into game shape but he looked a bit "bulkier than I was expecting.

For the talk of him being a leader figure, he didn't come across very well spoken nor very animated nor tough/passionate sounding.

Again, the guys play over 10 years speaks for itself so this is not to slight any of that. I was just hoping to see from the interview a guy in top shape and with a bit of the eye of the Tiger, to help turn our LB woes around. I didn't see that guy, just another vet with a job.

It's unfair to read a lot into these, but that's human nature and often you can learn a lot from body language and how a guy holds himself.

No way for me to know if he's in shape or not. If he isn't, he will be in South Florida soon.

As far as the interview goes, he sounded alright to me. He's been in Pittsburgh for 10 years. I wouldn't think he's 100% comfortable being a Dolphin yet. I mean they just began OTAs two days ago.
 
He looked pretty jacked to me....for as much as you can through a big *** T-shirt. He's the consummate pro and I have little doubt he is in shape.

If you notice anything about ALL of the new guys that have been brought in....they all seem to have great football character as well as no issues off the field. That goes for the guys we re-signed as well. I'll take the high motor, high football character guy over a more talented diva any day of the week as the foundation for building a team and team chemistry.
 
We just need one solid season out of Timmons. We'll add a fast athletic linebacker who can rush the passer in the '18 draft to compliment Kiko and McMillan.

Les we forget, we're pretty much locked onto Timmons, and almost everyone else we signed this year, for two years. He might ride the bench or get cut next year, but he'll still be paid like a starter.

That's something Barnwell was aware of in his analysis, but hey, he gave us a bad grade, so he has to suck.
 
I'm just glad that adding Timmons didn't preclude the front office from drafting a long term stud LB like Raekwon. We absolutely needed to grab one of these talented LB's and I think we got one of the best. McMillan does a good job of staying in step with the play, so he doesn't have to use his full burst of speed in pursuit all that often. Playing in that Ohio State defense, they have incredible speed everywhere, so his role doesn't really stress range as much as some MLB positions do at other schools.

He dropped a bit of weight and ran a 4.61, which is the 2nd lowest of the real LB's (Jabril Peppers is really a SS, not an LB) and he was very close to the fastest (Duke Riley who posted a 4.58) who is nowhere near as good of a LB. McMillan's agility and explosion numbers, while not at the very top, were also very good. Just because he doesn't seem like a great coverage guy now doesn't mean he cannot and will not become one. This kid is a grinder. He loves playing football and loves training for football. He actively sought out more work from the DL coach after his LB drills were done ... because the guy loves football and wants to be great.

Raekwon McMillan has the athletics, and he proved that at the combine. He has the instincts, he proved that in college. He is a natural leader, he proved that marshalling the Ohio State defense as a teenager. He is extremely coachable, as proved by his coach saying he was one of the coach's favorite players he ever coached. He is a grinder as he proved so often looking for extra work in the DL drills once his LB drills finished. He has the skills to be a top LB, including tackling, read and react, setting up the defense, reading the offensive shifts, stacking and shedding, and taking the correct angles.

Timmons shouldn't be the focal point of our attention. Our eyes should be fixed on Raekwon McMillan, because he will be the next stellar Miami linebacker. It's only a matter of time.
 
This is the sort of camp we need from Raekwon this year.....

...to take that MLB spot early and never look back....forcing Timmons to SLB.

He basically recounted how he was showing up at the training facility around 6 a.m. and leaving around 9 or 10 p.m. "Football is a job for me now," he said, "and if it takes me coming to work earlier and leaving later to be a success, that's what I'm going to do every day of my career."

The Dolphins risked a fifth-round pick. "I just hoped he'd make
it on special teams," says Johnson. But then in training camp
Thomas started making like Mike Singletary. In Miami's opener he

knocked out New England Patriots wideout Shawn Jefferson so cold
that when Jefferson came to, he mentioned his high school
coach's name. In a recent practice Thomas rocked rookie running
back Karim Abdul-Jabbar, who asked for nothing more than the
rest of the afternoon off. All of a sudden this kid who shares
an apartment with equally abridged rookie free-agent linebacker
Larry Izzo ("People think we're agents," says the 5'9" Izzo),
this no-name who keeps his ties tied because he can't make a
knot, is the hottest thing in Miami this side of stone crabs.

Unfortunately for 11-year veteran and Pro Bowl linebacker Jack
del Rio, whom the Dolphins cut during training camp to make room
for their surprising rookie, Thomas is still around. In fact,
draft pick 5C for Miami is showing up in film rooms all over the
league. "That guy," says Dallas Cowboys coach Barry Switzer, "is
just a rolling ball of butcher knives."

I'll remember that hit on Jefferson. And that goal-line stop of Jerome Bettis. And the day he stole the signals from the New England Patriots and caused Tom Brady to complain.

"I remember when Zach first showed up as a rookie, I thought he and Larry Izzo would make pretty good special teams players," Dan Marino said. "I was right about Larry, but wrong about Zach. He wound up being much better than that. He used his determination, grit, and love for the game to become one of the best players on our team.

"He was a great teammate. He never took a play off, not even at practice. and his enthusiasm for the sport was contagious throughout the locker room. I'm glad I got a chance to play with him, and I'm happy that he's able to retire as a member of the team he cared so much about."
 
That would be the end of Del Rio’s playing career, where he had some standout seasons, enjoyed popularity among his teammates and gave great quotes to reporters (and wore some amazing Reebok Pumps, as seen in the photo atop this story.

"I was at the end of my career and was hoping to get another year with Jimmy [Johnson, the former Dolphins coach] down there in Miami and this talented kid came in there and just made play after play everywhere," Del Rio told the AP in 2006. "It was obviously a good, sound decision by Jimmy. I've been fishing with Jimmy and joked, 'Come on, Jimmy, what the heck?'
 
"I'll remember that hit on Jefferson. And that goal-line stop of Jerome Bettis. And the day he stole the signals from the New England Patriots and caused Tom Brady to complain."

I don't think this is accurate. I remember the Brady press conference after the game and when asked about the Dolphins knowing they're audibles, because they had old audio, Brady simply said something like, "well those guys have only won 5 or 6 games, it's not like they have it all figured out."
 
By all accounts, Timmons is another band-aid fix. Hopefully, he can rebound and be productive and also be a good coach on the field for guys like McMillan. Even if he's not the same player he was a few years back, I think he's still an upgrade at linebacker for the team.

His addition also allows Miami to put Alonso at weakside which I think is his best position.
 
Re the interchangeability of the 4 linebackers, I think the 2 obvious questions are:
(a) How quickly does Raekwon McMillan learn everything to become a legit starter?
(b) How healthy is Koa Misi? He took a big pay cut, how much gas does he have left in the tank? Koa has never been a backup LBer, but he's now paid as one.

I really hope we start McMillan and begin the learning curve now. Misi is a waste of time IMO. I would rather just keep him as insurance (which I'm sure we'll need at some point).
 
By all accounts, Timmons is another band-aid fix. Hopefully, he can rebound and be productive and also be a good coach on the field for guys like McMillan. Even if he's not the same player he was a few years back, I think he's still an upgrade at linebacker for the team.

His addition also allows Miami to put Alonso at weakside which I think is his best position.

I think Timmons is a band aid, but that's fine. It buys us a few years to let McMillan develop and to draft another LB.
 
I like how every one forgets about picking up Fasano. His blocking skills intrigues me.

He and Hayes are the steals of our offseason.

I'm in love with that pick up. Best blocking TE will make us quickly forget about Dion SIms
 
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