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Dolphins' Lawrence Timmons confident he can play all three LB positions

Looking like (with order to be determined)

Strong
Misi
Timmons
Raekwon

Mike
Timmons
Raekwon
Kiko

Weak
Kiko
Hewitt/Timmons

If it's me I'm going with Timmons at strong Raekwon at mike and Kiko at weak and having instincts at all 3 positions pulling Raekwon off the field in the nickel.

Only way that would change for me is if Koa won the strong side spot

Raekwon has the best instincts for the position as a mike and can be trusted between the tackles especially.
Think back a year ago at this time and look at the talent upgrade we have this year at arguably our weakest position group
 
Think back a year ago at this time and look at the talent upgrade we have this year at arguably our weakest position group


Definitely upgraded. You can put guys anywhere heck we played paysinger as a starting nickel last year but it doesn't mean guys are good fits anywhere.
 
Definitely upgraded. You can put guys anywhere heck we played paysinger as a starting nickel last year but it doesn't mean guys are good fits anywhere.
Im happy to have the talent we do at lb right now. The other part is we won't be giving much away as far as where they lbs are lined up and what we are running defensively. Still am mind boggled the go, go-go system was used on the nfl level.
 
Definitely upgraded. You can put guys anywhere heck we played paysinger as a starting nickel last year but it doesn't mean guys are good fits anywhere.
Hoops any thoughts on the backup linebackers this year or its a wait till training camp type of thing.
 
Hoops any thoughts on the backup linebackers this year or its a wait till training camp type of thing.


I think Miami only plans to play with max 4 lbs ideal world and the 4th is only if Koa makes the team. Depth wise we are the weakest at weak where hewitt probably falls in. Expect to see a lot of zone cause Miami doesn't have much carry coverage at lb and maybe given the scheme ask which is the lbs read run first and react to the pass that's their intentions anyways with the lbs.

Probably gonna keep 7 lbs with hull and one other the likely fits. Hull shouldn't be plan b at mike this year he should be plan d. That alone is a significant upgrade.

If Koa doesn't make the team Hewitt and hull become 4th and 5th options. That's less than ideal but most teams have ehh depth at lb.

We need Kiko, Timmons, and raekwon to stay healthy and of the 3 Kiko may be the most critical there due to lack of depth behind him and he projects every down
 
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And I've never seen a team play lbs like hockey line changes. So if Miami does that they will be completely breaking from the norm. Package play sure but actual you take a series I take a series etc nah.

First team base and nickel and 2 deep at each position. If they shift in game it will be attrition based or play based where gase pulls a guy for not getting the job done. And the latter doesn't usually happen in game but after the game tape study a change is made prior to game prep for the following week etc.

I don't doubt though that they will cross train these guys and of the options Timmons is most likely to get training or camp reps at all 3 spots. Cause he projects at least 2 deep solid at 2 spots and possibly could be the 2 deep weak option if he beats out Hewitt there. But plan a is Kiko all the way there.
 
I think Miami only plans to play with max 4 lbs ideal world and the 4th is only if Koa makes the team. Depth wise we are the weakest at weak where hewitt probably falls in. Expect to see a lot of zone cause Miami doesn't have much carry coverage at lb and maybe given the scheme ask which is the lbs read run first and react to the pass that's their intentions anyways with the lbs.

Probably gonna keep 7 lbs with hull and one other the likely fits. Hull shouldn't be plan b at mike this year he should be plan d. That alone is a significant upgrade.

If Koa doesn't make the team Hewitt and hull become 4th and 5th options. That's less than ideal but most teams have ehh depth at lb.

We need Kiko, Timmons, and raekwon to stay healthy and of the 3 Kiko may be the most critical there due to lack of depth behind him and he projects every down

Gym Shorts D to a "T".

Front 4 gets after the QB every snap or establishes new LOS if they sniff run.

LBs look for run first then drop into zone on pass.

CBs press to disrupt timing so pass rush can get home and Safeties play cover 2 with occasional Robber coverage.

Blitz around but no more than 15%.

That's it. Simple and bland. It's either execute or be executed.
 
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The back up LB is not our strength. I'm not sure if Misi makes it back in time to compete. Gase, at OTAs, sounded like that is going to be a slow process. I hope Hull takes a big step in his 3rd season, but not a lot of hope out the rest of the group.
 
Gym Shorts D to a "T".

Front 4 gets after the QB every snap or establishes new LOS if they sniff run.

LBs look for run first then drop into zone on pass.

CBs press to disrupt timing so pass rush can get home and Safeties play cover 2 with occasional Robber coverage.

Blitz around but no more than 15%.

That's it. Simple and bland. It's either execute or be executed.
Why do you call it the gym shorts D? Honest question. And The D you describe sounds alot like the D Jimmy Johnson ran when he had Surtain, Madison and Marion in the back end with JT, ZT and others in his front 7. If so, then I understand your concerns about that scheme in the playoffs given it's effectivenes back in the days with that loaded team. We don't have close to that level of talent...
 
Gym Shorts D to a "T".

Front 4 gets after the QB every snap or establishes new LOS if they sniff run.

LBs look for run first then drop into zone on pass.

CBs press to disrupt timing so pass rush can get home and Safeties play cover 2 with occasional Robber coverage.

Blitz around but no more than 15%.

That's it. Simple and bland. It's either execute or be executed.

That's the way they practice. Usually defense comes to fundamentals, communication in the secondary and talent. Teams are going to run on us and we have to execute our gap assignments to stop it. Our achialies heal this year will be nickle corner, TE coverage and interior OL on offense.
 
The back up LB is not our strength. I'm not sure if Misi makes it back in time to compete. Gase, at OTAs, sounded like that is going to be a slow process. I hope Hull takes a big step in his 3rd season, but not a lot of hope out the rest of the group.
I think our best hope based on talent might be Hewitt taking that next step and then moving Kiko around as needed
 
Why do you call it the gym shorts D? Honest question.

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We have the talent this year for sure to be good.

I like how we look in the front 7. Our front 4 options look very solid and we finally have some depth.

You could even have Harris at the Strong like Irvin style and still play nickel with Kiko and Timmons.
Rotate in Misi and RayQ as desired. Hewitt and whoever as special team ace

But rushing Wake and Harris on the same side would be fun to watch.
 
Why do you call it the gym shorts D? Honest question. And The D you describe sounds alot like the D Jimmy Johnson ran when he had Surtain, Madison and Marion in the back end with JT, ZT and others in his front 7. If so, then I understand your concerns about that scheme in the playoffs given it's effectivenes back in the days with that loaded team. We don't have close to that level of talent...

As Travis34 pointed out (as I have also in the past), gym shorts = Jim Schwartz. It's appropriate b/c it stinks like a pair leftover from the turn of the century.

It's not a talent issue as much as it is a scheme one. NE's defense isn't star-studded, far from it in fact as the usually oust anyone with large financial demands, yet they are always in the the top 10 for points allowed b/c of their scheme.

Johnson's defense had more front 7 looks than we give and blitzed at a higher frequency as well. JJ's defense could still translate well into today's era b/c of those things with the major factor being it was predicated on speed.
 
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