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Slimm's 2018 Quarterbacks (Underclassman)

I agree, but he definitely doesn't have Cutler's arm. I think he's a clever QB, but he'd do well to return and improve the consistency of his footwork and throwing mechanics. I know the lesser QB's smell blood in the water with Darnold's struggles (not to mention the possibility that he'll return to USC in 2018), but they should really focus on what's best for their development - speaking of Lee and Thorson, too.

I think you can make a strong case for each of the UC QB's to return to school for 2018, but the lower-ranked guys, especially, should think hars about where they are in their development.

Despite his struggles, Darnold is the only UC QB I like in the 1st - if he declares.

Yeah, few have Cutler's arm. Or at least the arm Cutler had for most of his career (not sure it's the same right now).
 
I'm watching this UCLA/USC game. Rosen is going to be special. Maybe Sashi Brown goes for the threepeat and trades away the picks used for Wentz, Watson, and Rosen in three straight years. He has the treading "picks and money" water vibe that Ireland collected 6 salaries on.
 
rotoworld - Wyoming redshirt junior QB Josh Allen was the first player announced for Wyoming's senior day introductions.

Indication he's going pro? That's what they think
 
I think all year long we could have safely assumed Josh Allen would come out early. He had a very public "Should I or shouldn't I?" episode LAST draft season, and ended up announcing that he's decided to return to school. When you do all that, you usually don't turn around and stay in school a second time.

The surprise is that Clayton Thorson and Tanner Lee are reportedly leaning toward coming out.
 
Josh Rosen and Sam Darnold are so good.

I would mortgage the farm to get one.

Holding out hope for Josh Allen to fall.
 
Unless Josh Allen falls to the 3rd round (which is possible) I wouldn't hold out too much hope for him in Miami.
 
I don’t see Josh Allen dropping that far, apparently the Jets are really high on the guy. I’m hoping the Dolphins are high on him as well. I don’t want to see him in a Jets or Bills uniform.
 
For quarterbacks it tends to be very all or nothing. Either you're well regarded enough a personnel department wants to stake its reputation on you, or you can fall a bit. I'm not saying Josh WILL fall into the 3rd but you certainly have to say that's a plausible scenario on that basis.
 
I believe every team in the league will regret passing on Allen. Much like they regret passing on Aaron Rodgers.
 
Beginning the season I agreed with Ted that Lamar Jackson should be considered an "athlete" by NFL teams, but now that the regular season has played out, I think he's a QB on Sundays. There's something there to be had with him. I think it boils down to whether or not his mind can handle an NFL playbook. He still needs some work and I wouldn't take him in the 1st, but I'd take him in the 2nd in a heart beat and work with him. He works the middle of the field so well but still needs some work on his deep stuff. He's got touch and he's become accurate enough, I think, that he can play QB at the NFL level.
 
Beginning the season I agreed with Ted that Lamar Jackson should be considered an "athlete" by NFL teams, but now that the regular season has played out, I think he's a QB on Sundays. There's something there to be had with him. I think it boils down to whether or not his mind can handle an NFL playbook. He still needs some work and I wouldn't take him in the 1st, but I'd take him in the 2nd in a heart beat and work with him. He works the middle of the field so well but still needs some work on his deep stuff. He's got touch and he's become accurate enough, I think, that he can play QB at the NFL level.

I'm somewhere between you and Slimm on Jackson. I have him in the 3rd - with Mike Vick and Tyrod Taylor as his most obvious comps. You can win with that, particularly on a rookie contract, but the supporting cast has to be right. You want a good D and running game, so you're not asking him to make too many plays with his arm, because his inconsistent accuracy will translate to inconsistent offense. You can live with that if he's making big plays (which he can with his legs and arm), but if you're asking him to throw 30-40 times a game, you're going to hit some rough patches. He's not a QB who will make a bad team look good - like Deshaun Watson or Andrew Luck.

Unfortunately, for his long-term prospects, a team will likely fall in love with him in the top 10 (where bad teams pick). Best fits: Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Jacksonville, Minnesota. Baltimore is the most realistic option. Ozzie could do what he did with Flacco when he was on his rookie contract.
 
Two things concern me about Lamar Jackson and his translation to the next level. First is accuracy, second is I don't think his frame can withstand the punishment at the next level at QB.

At QB you're constantly going to be hit by bigger guys than you would be at WR, and most of them in a more defenseless position. Same worries I had about Robert Griffin.

People need to realize there are no Syracuses or N. Carolinas or Purdues in the NFL. Go back and evaluate the games against LSU and Clemson, etc. That's my concern.

Although I agree with Lou here, if you're committed to drafting this kid as a QB only and are hellbent on it, I'd be more comfortable with spending a 2nd round pick.

But anybody wanting to draft this kid top 5 or 10 can have him all day long as far as I'm concerned. I'll live with whatever the results end up being for better or worse.
 
Just based upon how highly valued QBs are in the draft. I don't think there's anyway Jackson doesn't go in the first round. I wouldn't put it past the Browns to take him #1 overall.
 
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