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That game was fixed, and it was a bad fix...

PlexGod said:
Im usually not one of these type of guys but this was the worst officiated game I have ever seen there has been 2 or 3 games this season so far that it just seems like every possible thing goes against us ...A Deep pass to Landry on 3rd down gets called back by a terrible hold the pass Interference on fasano in the endzone called back the safety and then Martin running out of bounds and them letting the clock one it's just atrocious
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Yep.

Multiple games this season are up there for me in worst officiated games I've seen. AND I hate to try to make excuses for an overall bad team. But we can't overcome all of this adversity. I really want someone to compile a highlight video of ref **** ups from this season. Something needs to be done about this bs
 
Dolph N.Fan said:
Football night in America (crappy highlight show) never showed the questionable safety play during their highlight.
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It's also not in the NFL highlights replay for the game -- about a seven minute recap of the game.
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
Eh, Martin's forward progress was stopped there. He was going backwards when he stepped out of bounds. That one... was not a BS call. The Fasano OPI though, absolutely. Phantom call.
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How could his forward progress be stopped? He hadn't even ran into his own lineman yet.
 
Dolph N.Fan said:
It will forever be forgotten by all but Dolphins fans.
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I can't find video of it anywhere.....it's funny how the Jets fumble against the Patriots was everywhere to be seen but I can't find one replay of the phantom forward progress.
 
eagle3372 said:
Fixed right.... The refs keep saying throw the ball to the other team Cutler. 3 interceptions and a fumble don’t think you have an argument here. Just stop with the fix. TB is 3-6 why would they fix it.
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The NFL would have no reason to fix it. Of course, the games that Tim Donaghy fixed were done by the NBA either.

That said, I don't think the game was fixed. But I can't recall any game called more incompetently. It's like we had to overcome having two Jay Cutlers.
 
1) I live in NE, and the Patriots rarely get calls in their favor. The Jets play was in fact the correct call. They were on the wrong end of bad calls in the playoffs in 2005, 2006, 2007, and 2015.

2) Anybody got a link for the safety play?
 
dolphinsneu said:
1) I live in NE, and the Patriots rarely get calls in their favor. The Jets play was in fact the correct call. They were on the wrong end of bad calls in the playoffs in 2005, 2006, 2007, and 2015.

2) Anybody got a link for the safety play?
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Rarely ... not sure that was the right word. The NFL changes rules to justify terrible calls in favor of the pats. Just ask Charles Woodson how he feels about the tuck rule.

There are a few teams in the NFL that benefit from the Jordan rule. Pats are certainly one of them. I watch most of their games.
 
The tuck play was the correct call.

What is the Jordan rule?

2005: Divisional playoff game against Denver. Horrible PI Call against Asante Samuel set up Denver's first touchdown. Then, the Champ Bailey/Watson play that should have been ruled a touchback set up Denver's second touchdown.

2006: Against the Colts, five bad calls gave the game to the Colts. The most egregious was the pass interference call against Troy Brown late in the first half that took away a first down from the Patriots and stopped a drive that would have put the game away right then and there.

2007: In the Super Bowl against the Giants, on David Tyree's helmet catch, Eli Manning would have been sacked if not for a blatant holding that was missed on Richard Seymour.

2015: In the AFC title game against Denver, the ref refused to call a flagrant pass interference against Aqib Talb in the endzone against Gronkowski. If the correct call is made, New England probably wins.

This is why I don't like to complain when the calls go against Miami, because I know what truly being screwed by the refs is.
 
The tuck rule was bullshit dude, stop it. When they dug through that rule book to the most obscure and least called penalty in history to conti nue their Cinderella Story. 99% of viewers and players alike had never heard if the damned thing.

Example of real world tuck rule. In Maine it us illegal to keep your Christmas decorations up past January 14th, nobody would get a ticket for that ever. Unless Tom ****ing Brady called for it

**** that team dude. Dynasty was started on a falsity.
 
vcip said:
A friggin ref just helped Brady up after a sack...seriously?
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This happened to us a few years back. The ref held his hand out to help up Tommy. That game was so badly called in the pats favor.
 
Avigatorx said:
Meh, Vegas usually doesnt care about the result, they make their money off the vig.
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That is only partially true. Very few games are well balanced to the point the house wins comfortably either way. I think sports fans would be shocked to look at the computer bottom line during games in progress. You can run simulations to see how the book fares based on this final score or that final score. The variance can be startling. Often there is some hidden parlay card out there that can completely change the outcome.

When that happens, you can guarantee there is rooting interest in that sportsbook, and not to a minor degree. I've witnessed tantrums galore in the back rooms. When Nick Bogdanovich was a young sportsbook manager at the Horseshoe he was so paranoid over every major outcome that he'd kick the filing cabinet in the sportsbook office when a game finished poorly for the house. We had patrons in the seating who would hear those kicks and laugh about it. They knew what it was. One guy would ask me to describe the latest dent, and if Nick said anything in the process.

This is how Las Vegas succeeds: the earn is almost always greater than the risk, even if a game is not well balanced. For example, you might win $63,000 if the underdog covers, or lose $44,000 if the favorite covers. So all year long you take that type of thing and rationalize that the results will balance out. Sportsbooks make an astonishingly low number of decisions. That's what struck me when I was hired to work as supervisor. It was basically hang the number and see what the bettors do with it.

In Sunday's game the Dolphins opened small favorite but the Buccaneers were pushed to small favorite. Somebody is going to have to explain to me how that aligns with a game fixed by Las Vegas. Apparently it was fixed to make sure the sportsbooks lost. They were anything but happy with that result.
 
I think the questionable calls on the game were down to poor officiating rather than people fixing the game. The quality of officiating this season has been poor at times, but what also hurts is that there appears to be little consistency at times with different crews. Some are flag happy, others let things go and let the players compete. At times yesterday I think the crew we had got a little flag happy and made some calls which other crews would not have called. But I guess that’s the problem in other sports as well, for example some refs in soccer get card/foul happy while others let them compete.

Not much you can really do about it when you get officials that make bad calls. I’d say let the players play and throw less flags, but as nice as that would be, I’m sure there would be complaints about missed calls and whatnot if the refs stepped in less and let them get on with it.
 
Awsi Dooger said:
That is only partially true. Very few games are well balanced to the point the house wins comfortably either way. I think sports fans would be shocked to look at the computer bottom line during games in progress. You can run simulations to see how the book fares based on this final score or that final score. The variance can be startling. Often there is some hidden parlay card out there that can completely change the outcome.

When that happens, you can guarantee there is rooting interest in that sportsbook, and not to a minor degree. I've witnessed tantrums galore in the back rooms. When Nick Bogdanovich was a young sportsbook manager at the Horseshoe he was so paranoid over every major outcome that he'd kick the filing cabinet in the sportsbook office when a game finished poorly for the house. We had patrons in the seating who would hear those kicks and laugh about it. They knew what it was. One guy would ask me to describe the latest dent, and if Nick said anything in the process.

This is how Las Vegas succeeds: the earn is almost always greater than the risk, even if a game is not well balanced. For example, you might win $63,000 if the underdog covers, or lose $44,000 if the favorite covers. So all year long you take that type of thing and rationalize that the results will balance out. Sportsbooks make an astonishingly low number of decisions. That's what struck me when I was hired to work as supervisor. It was basically hang the number and see what the bettors do with it.

In Sunday's game the Dolphins opened small favorite but the Buccaneers were pushed to small favorite. Somebody is going to have to explain to me how that aligns with a game fixed by Las Vegas. Apparently it was fixed to make sure the sportsbooks lost. They were anything but happy with that result.
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Thanks for the insider view bro, I bet you have a ton of stories!

I have a question though, I was always told that when the action gets lopsided like that, that bookies normally lay-off excessive bets to other books in order to keep it as flat as possible.

Sounds to me like that Manager liked to bet himself, which seems like a recipe for disaster in a gambling operation.

Appreciate the insight. :)
 
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