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A bad week for one Dolphins receiver could help make another player a lot richer

Coaching. Good coaches develop, cultivate, and nurture talent into results. The NFL has a coaching crisis, and Miami is no stranger to that. Maybe Parker is a bust, but until Miami gets a competent coach that habitually gets a next man in type of team going in Miami, we can never know if players really are/were true busts.

In my opinion, Parker would be a stud with a competent coach. Tannehill's injury was a result of Miami refusing to get him properly protected just as Andrew Luck, Aaron Rodgers, Derek Carr, Marcus Mariota, and Russell Wilson are suffering now for the same reasons. Competent coach=competent QB=Parker playing lights out.
 
The look on Parkers face is basically the same look on Cutlers ... Different positions but same body language...We need a true Alpha #1 WR...
 
All Parker showed me is he gets hurt every year , and make a nice catch every 4 weeks. Sign Landry and move on from Parker is a simple situation. Most logic anyway. Parker is not close living up to 1st round pick WR. Can we trade him?
 
Mike8272 said:
Gase is right that some receivers take longer than others to put it altogether. Jordy Nelson springs to mind as someone that didn’t breakout until his fourth season. Now admittedly he had Greg Jennings, Donald Driver and James Jones to contend with
in his first three seasons so that did limit some opportunities but they did try to expand Nelson’s role each season, and in his breakout fourth season those same players were still on the roster. So there’s a guy that took a while to put everything together and I’m sure there are other examples as well.

So perhaps Parker will breakout next year?!

Sooner or later the kid has to put it all together because we’ve been saying the past two seasons that this could be his breakout year and it’s yet to happen. I’d like to see him breakout next year (or even late this year) to force our hand, but currently I’d say we are more likely to re-sign Landry (unless he wants Julio money instead of Baldwin money) and retain Stills as our number #2, and then potentially trade Parker (eg like the Bills did with Watkins) and draft someone else on day two in 2018.
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Say we trade him next year. A true #1 WR makes Landry a true beast. Parker is killing this offence with lack of speed and routes. But he is definitely a average 3rd WR.
 
hoops said:
Ehh that first int regardless of the route or the trip the ball was thrown behind him.

Cutler has to lead him there out in front he threw it behind him thus it was picked

It’s not like cutler doesnt get to see Parker into his break there

And Moore missed dvp on what would have been an easy out route red zone td had he just threw the damn ball catchable
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All aboard the excuse train!! Maybe he just isn't that great, dude is invisible half the time. Still waiting in year number 3 for him to be worth a ****!
 
Anyone that doesn't like Parker, fine. But Parker and Landry imo are two different things. If anyone doesn't believe that Parker can't be a #1, no problem but giving Landry 12mill a year won't fix anything. Regardless of Landry being here or not we still need a real #1. At this moment Parker is the best option. You trade him and now you have yet another hole. A great offense can not run thru a slot WR. Not trying to put Landry down. Great energy and he helps move the chains but giving him top 5 money will not make our offense better or the team. In fact, spend that much money on a slot WR and we're back to Suh(a great DT but still a DT)making so much money that it hurts the cap. You give top 5 WR money to a top 5 WR and that is NOT Landry

Ozzy rules!!
 
Phinatic8u said:
He was tripped and that was his first drop all season.
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Yeah, in fairness to Parker, we hadn't had an interception when targeting him this season. Stills has also become a much more reliable target in that respect.
 
Danny said:
Anyone that doesn't like Parker, fine. But Parker and Landry imo are two different things. If anyone doesn't believe that Parker can't be a #1, no problem but giving Landry 12mill a year won't fix anything. Regardless of Landry being here or not we still need a real #1. At this moment Parker is the best option. You trade him and now you have yet another hole. A great offense can not run thru a slot WR. Not trying to put Landry down. Great energy and he helps move the chains but giving him top 5 money will not make our offense better or the team. In fact, spend that much money on a slot WR and we're back to Suh(a great DT but still a DT)making so much money that it hurts the cap. You give top 5 WR money to a top 5 WR and that is NOT Landry

Ozzy rules!!
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Landry is well worth 12 million. Best we have on our WR core. New England been using slot WR for years and they had no problem winning Super Bowls.
 
Danny said:
Anyone that doesn't like Parker, fine. But Parker and Landry imo are two different things. If anyone doesn't believe that Parker can't be a #1, no problem but giving Landry 12mill a year won't fix anything. Regardless of Landry being here or not we still need a real #1. At this moment Parker is the best option. You trade him and now you have yet another hole. A great offense can not run thru a slot WR. Not trying to put Landry down. Great energy and he helps move the chains but giving him top 5 money will not make our offense better or the team. In fact, spend that much money on a slot WR and we're back to Suh(a great DT but still a DT)making so much money that it hurts the cap. You give top 5 WR money to a top 5 WR and that is NOT Landry

Ozzy rules!!
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Landry is well worth 12 million. Best we have on our WR core. New England been using slot WR for years and they had no problem winning Super Bowls.
 
kingfin23 said:
Landry is well worth 12 million. Best we have on our WR core. New England been using slot WR for years and they had no problem winning Super Bowls.
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TWELVE million ... That ship sailed at least a year ago. Landry wants $15M per season these days. Price keeps going up. I don't see him back. Unless the entire NFL thinks he isn't worth $12M, which is unlikely, this is Landrys final season as a Dolphin.

He wants to get obscenely rich, and who can blame him? He will get his market value. We had our chance to sign him, we just don't value him as much as some other teams probably do.
 
Digital said:
TWELVE million ... That ship sailed at least a year ago. Landry wants $15M per season these days. Price keeps going up. I don't see him back. Unless the entire NFL thinks he isn't worth $12M, which is unlikely, this is Landrys final season as a Dolphin.

He wants to get obscenely rich, and who can blame him? He will get his market value. We had our chance to sign him, we just don't value him as much as some other teams probably do.
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This.

Gase will likely prefer Laundry gone. Our head coach does not have the people skills required to handle alpha type personalities. Laundry's passion will/has become a liability in their relationship, so he will be gone. I hope I am wrong, but Gase's scorched earth approach to Ajayi showed that he is lacking the leadership and experience to handle things differently.
 
I'm going to take a different opinion here: the play of Kenny Stills is actually what might have the most impact on Landry's contract situation, and that is probably not good for Jarvis Landry's future in Miami.

Although they are definitely two different players, Stills has proved to be far and away our best offensive weapon this season. He's improved his game tremendously and it shows up both on the game film and in the stat sheet.

I think that's definitely going to weigh on Landry's contract situation here.
 
kingfin23 said:
Say we trade him next year. A true #1 WR makes Landry a true beast. Parker is killing this offence with lack of speed and routes. But he is definitely a average 3rd WR.
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I'd agree that if we can find ourselves a true #1 receiver it would be a huge boost to the offense. It would be difficult for teams to focus on one guy and try to shut them down because the rest can make them pay. We see it from time to time this season when Stills goes off big when teams are focusing on Landry. So if we can find that true number #1 it would help the offense and I'd expect to see Landry's numbers improve because he would no longer be the focus, and if he was, a true number #1 would cause havoc in one-on-one situations. Focus on them both and guys like Stills will cause havoc. It would be just what this offense needs because even a quarterback like Tannehill should be able to be fairly prolific with an abundance of weapons.

With that said, I think our focus for next season will need to be on building the O-Line, certainly the interior of the line if we are happy with Tunsil and James at the tackle positions. With some of the quality guard options coming out in 2018 it might be difficult to draft a first or second round receiver since we should be looking in those rounds to grab a pair of interior linemen to help upgrade the O-Line. But at the same time I could understand if they decided to draft a top player maker (WR, RB, TE) this year and use the other rounds to find the interior O-Line help, or perhaps even use free agency, or a combination of both. That's without considering the improvements required on the defensive side as well. We arguably need to upgrade all three starting line backers, look hard at the D-Line, and also consider what we can do to get better in the secondary. So while I'd love to see an offensive play maker drafted with our top pick, I don't think we are going to go that way and will likely look at O-Line or defense and probably take a risk on Parker breaking out next year or taking a flyer on a high upside day three play maker that carries some risk with them.

The big question I would have is what would Parker's trade value be? Based on recent trades (Watkins and Benjamin) I would say that Parker's value is probably a mid round pick unless he breaks out between now and the end of the season. I guess any extra picks can be useful to help build this team but in some ways I would be willing to take a risk on Parker breaking out next year if all I was getting in return is a mid round pick. If he does breakout or show signs of significant improvement we can always take his fifth year option and be patient in waiting for the right offer to come along or find a way to get an extension done if we really want. So while I think a trade is a possibility if he continues as he is, I would say also say that is is a possibility we keep him around and hope that breakout comes next year.
 
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