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The dude is bust-proof. His brother is in the NFL. He's educated, charismatic, and motivated. He wants to be the president of Nigeria when he retires and will likely do big things for football ambassadorship in that country. He may not be an All-Pro, but the dude ain't getting cut and isn't going to be a concern unless he were to have some catastrophic injury.
 
Finfan83nj said:
Grier is rolling a lot of dice this year. Both these guys have a lot of athleticism tho.
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I think that's what you should do at the top of the draft-- swing for the fences. I've never been a huge fan of 'safe' picks. Those guys usually have less upside and the reason they are 'safe' is because they are so-well coached, that they have little room for improvement.

Give me the super-athletic projects.
 
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phinsforlife said:
ahh easy. i will stick with the first pick only because it is simpler.
i would have taken one of the CBs or WRs. not psyched about drafting at those positions either, but i think there were several CB and WR prospects available at #21 who were better prospects than Chop at edge, frankly by a fair bit too. ready to play and contribute now as well, also lower risk because they produced in college in addition to having the measurables.
i think if i remember correctly we could have had the first CB off the board - ergo the best CB in the draft, at 21. the eagles, who are very good drafters, took a CB at 22
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I was referring to actual players. So we can see how it plays out. Just for fun of course 😉
 
Ryan1973 said:
Kyle Crabbs hates the pick and that's who I trust the most! He also wasn't crazy about the Chop pick either!
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I agree with Crabbs.

I like Chop the player and his upside. I was just hoping they'd do something different when some players started to fall...mainly Fautanu tradeup or a Barton/Mitchell/Arnold. Chop is raw and a part-time player with JP and Chubb, so unless one guy isn't returning, the ROI on him vs a stud CB or OL starter Day 1 in win now mode seemed odd. Even next year if Chubb and JP return to form, he's a limited snaps guy. Premium position but likely not premium snap count and more long-term projection.

Chop has a lot to like.....and a lot of risk. Right now he's a one-trick pony rusher, although better against the run than most give credit.
 
Finfan83nj said:
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Imagine how much it must suck to get in trouble when your parents are both Nigerian and the children of Nigeria's first military dictator.

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PSU Cane said:
I agree with Crabbs.

I like Chop the player and his upside. I was just hoping they'd do something different when some players started to fall...mainly Fautanu tradeup or a Barton/Mitchell/Arnold. Chop is raw and a part-time player with JP and Chubb, so unless one guy isn't returning, the ROI on him vs a stud CB or OL starter Day 1 in win now mode seemed odd. Even next year if Chubb and JP return to form, he's a limited snaps guy. Premium position but likely not premium snap count and more long-term projection.

Chop has a lot to like.....and a lot of risk. Right now he's a one-trick pony rusher, although better against the run than most give credit.
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I wanted them to draft Barton at that point.
 
The Ghost said:
Chop is going to have to play right away. Phillips and Chubb aren’t going to be a 100% for awhile (and Chubb won’t be here much longer).

Paul will likely be playing at the end of the season when TA is hurt and we are lucky we have him going into the playoffs.

What more did you want?
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well we can agree to disagree. you seem to put more value on measurables than i do. i lean toward production in addition to the measurables, especially in the first two rounds. i think grier is more in your camp. remember iggy and channing tindall, for example, had all the measurables too. i think this year it was especially important to have guys ready to contribute now. repeating my answer to another question, just as an example, with our first pick, i would have taken one of the CBs or WRs. not psyched about drafting at those positions either as opposed to OL there, but i think there were several CB and WR prospects available at #21 who were better prospects than Chop at edge, frankly by a fair bit too. ready to play and contribute now as well, also lower risk because they produced in college in addition to having the measurables. i think if i remember correctly we could have had the first CB off the board - ergo the best CB in the draft, at 21. the eagles, who are very good drafters, took a CB at 22. anyway we will see how it all turns out. even though i do not like the picks, they have now been made, and i want them to work.
 
I was watching the locked on stream, its not that crabbs thinks the kids a bust. He was just disappointed we took a raw prospect that wont contribute right away like draft Haynes would have. I dont think it was a reach either probably right around were he should go. The yahoo draft board had him ranked in the top 40, I think ppl are just split cus its boom or bust most likely
 
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