2009 Miami Heat Offseason Thread

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  1. CedarPhin

    CedarPhin Finheaven Hall of Shame

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    So seeing that Game 7 ended with a whimper, we are now in the long offseason.

    Feel free to post your thoughts on what we should do in FA, the Draft, etc. here!
     
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    Dolfan3773 Bleeding 305 since 1987

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    Lock Wade up long term is my main concern, and I wish we can say bye bye to JO
     
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    I wish we can say bye bye to Mark Blount and his contract.
     
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    I believe Udonis is expiring after next season. I'd be pretty surprised if they didn't look to move him, hopefully upgrade the SF or even C position.

    The Heat are stuck with JO until 2010 most likely.

    The question is how much the Heat are willing to take off the capspace in in 2010 to improve next season. As of right now we're gonna have a ton of free cap space in 2010 (50+ mill), basicly we can go hard after whoever we want.
     
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    if we could trade haslem and blount in a package for a good small forward that would be nice, how bout haslem and blount, for salmons and one of there power forwards
     
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    I'd rather keep them and let them walk after next season so we can clear as much cap room as we can for 2010.
     
  7. CedarPhin

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    So in 2010, I almost would rather go after Bosh instead of looking at LeBron.

    Don't get me wrong, LeBron in Miami would be awesome, but I think Bosh fits the team better. We've got our #1 scorer in Wade, we just need a dominating inside presence, and I think Bosh would give us that.
     
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    I don't want Lebron. I wanna beat Lebron, preferably in the ECF.
     
  9. biggiesmalls3k1

    biggiesmalls3k1 How Bout Them Fins?!

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    Well the obvious 1st step is to lock up D-Wade...after that the only moves i can foresee this summer are:

    - trading haslem for a bonafide SF, or a big man that can be big on the boards...
    - acquiring a true pg that can shoot consistently and still give minutes to chalmers...

    if those two things arent possible...save up for 2010, hopefully beasley and chalmers will have matured and become that much better, and throw buckets of money at Bosh/Stoudemire...lol...just please no Boozer...
     
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    The Miami Heat offseason is about starting the campaign to get Wade to stay. The key components of that sales job are Cook, Beasley, and Chalmers, who have to continue to get better to show Wade that the Heat could be special with the addition of a marquee FA in '10. I'm far from convinced that this was the right strategy and that its a foregone conclusion that Wade will stay and the Heat will be able to draw another star to play along side him. But that's the path Riley has chosen so all we can do is hope the kids improve their game.
     
  11. biggiesmalls3k1

    biggiesmalls3k1 How Bout Them Fins?!

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    i dont think Wade is looking to go anywhere...im sure he's had plenty of conversations with Pat, and they both see where the future is...we got glimpses of what Beasley and Chalmers could do...and with the ability to throw max money around in 2010, lets not forget that its Miami that we're talking about here (no state taxes, beautiful weather, women, a championship caliber organization)...we are gonna bring in another franchise-type player to put next to Dwyane
     
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    isnt ben gordon an available small forward? i think he would be great. he is a good outside shooter, consistently. and he always came in the game nailing 3s off the bench, like cook shows sparks of once in a while lately.
     
  13. biggiesmalls3k1

    biggiesmalls3k1 How Bout Them Fins?!

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    small forward? no way, hes way too small bro...he's a two-guard...no way he'd fit on this team...unless we move wade to point full time...which will never happen...
     
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    if Lebron came to Miami then Miami would be the next USA team by themselves
     
  15. CedarPhin

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    yea there was a lot of hinting about beasely being trade bait in the sun sentinel the other day.

    today there is an article talking about the surprising number of fines beasely and chalmers are being made to pay, for breaking rules.
     
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    Gordon can play Point, he's done it before.

    It's obvious Miami's biggest need is locking up Wade long term. You guys could also use some depth at PF/C, and a nice SF. If you guys can lock up Wade, and then manage to get another big time playmaker like a Bosh/Stoudemire in 2010, you guys will be very good.
     
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    i like that idea.

    so, ben gordon, is he a small forward or a shooting guard?
     
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    Gordon is a very small SG. As the other poster stated, you'd have to put Wade at point or go with a 3 guard lineup. Gordon's problem is that he can only play on a team with a big PG like hes had with Hughes, Hinrich, and Rose. Hes very talented but such a niche player that he'll have a tough time getting the dollars hes after.

    As far as the Heat are concerned its a moot point. They can't afford him and its going to take a much better player to get them involved in any sign and trade discussions.
     
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    Gordon is a Guard. He can play both PG and SG.
     
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    Gordon has never played the point, either in college or the pros. In Chicago hes always been paired with Duhon, Hinrich, Hughes, or Rose. He might slide over and defend the opposing PG but on the offensive end hes an off guard.
     
  24. biggiesmalls3k1

    biggiesmalls3k1 How Bout Them Fins?!

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    Lock up D-Wade. That's all they need to worry about for this offseason. I want Bosh in 2010.
     
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    Here's some draft news:

    http://www.miamiherald.com/616/story/1062950.html
     
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    Saw the same thing in the Florida Sports Buzz on the Herald.
     
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    Kind of depressing we gotta wait a whole nother season to make serious moves to become a championship team.
     
  32. BAMAPHIN 22

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    Obama invites Dwyane Wade to White House

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    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/basketball/heat/sfl-obama-wade-shoot-hoops-061709,0,7548238.story
     
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    Chris Bosh: There is no link to Miami Heat



    http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sport...hris-bosh-there-is-no-link-to-miami-heat.html
     
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    Few tidbits on the Heat in FA:
    http://www.miamiherald.com/614/story/1127606.html?storylink=omni_popular
     
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    Wade says he'll stay if Heat contend

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4309337

    Should we be worried?
     
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    as long as we do not get iverson
     
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    I'd really be depressed if Wade went else where
     
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    I think hes staying. But if the trio of youngsters don't improve dramatically this season, he'll have to think twice.
     
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    wade bosh and beasley is not a bad trio
     
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    I don't think he goes. Riley is not dumb....
     
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    if iverson is the key to keeping Wade then we need to do it. he is a good scorer still and could be a good compliment to Wade in that way. then in 2010 we resign Wade and make a move to get Bosh or Amare perhaps
     
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    Iverson could still be a great 6th man and keep the offense from falling apart whenever Wade goes to the bench. I don't see him accepting the role though and him playing along side Wade would never work.
     
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    iverson will not accept a spot on the bench
     
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    u r right...allen would never be a bench player..he wouldnt do it in detriot and he wont do it else where..however i dont think he is burn out quite yet...the piston misused allen and now everyone has a bad view of him i think he can still play...he is an explusive scorer and would be a good complament for wade but only if he excepts the role of the no. two guy the one he could not except over in denver...realizing he would be the second option..then it could work he could be the point guard and create for wade...and other cause he is still one of the quickest guys in the nba
     
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    Iverson should think about playing overseas.
     
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    iverson gets a bad rep this whole league is full of selfish players thats just what the NBA has become, even our own Wade is making demands fact is riley has a plan in action which is to build with younger players and Wade is forcing Riley's hand by saying he wants a big move or he's bolting
     
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    Wade is selfish in that he wants to win. Hes spending the prime of his career on a rebuilding team....noone should be content with that.
     
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    Ok lets look at this. Riley wants to rebuild around wade but make sure he is locked.For wade if riley stops the rebuilding process and acquires some championship pieces than he will stay,but riley wont make that move until wade is locked up.So ultimately wade will bolt,we will still be in rebuilding mode, and even if rebuilding mode, you can make a solid young team but hey if you dont have a superstar or a dominating big man than it doesnt matter if youve rebuild with the best young players, you are not going to win a championship with players like wade,lj,kobe,mayo(yup,should have taken him),rose still playing in the nba. So Riley your gonna lose your chance at a championship to rebuild the team to what? a mediocre team, young solid team(not even guaranteed by any means) or fulfill your superstar demands which gives you the only chance at a championship.Go ahead lose those young players that afterall ain't star caliber and picks that will eventually be high draft picks if you can keep wade and can use em to build a championship team atm.

    What Riley needs to do, is just get some pieces for wade by trading who he has to trade.Beasley can go, I wanted Mayo over him and rose,while I dont dislike beasley talents, he is still some years away imo.

    The first kind of piece we need to acquire is a big man, if we dont get a man then we are not going nowhere. Gasol-Bynum duo,D12,Shaq,KG,Duncan, they will dominate JO and Haslem, even fat Shaq, so we need to acquire Amare or Bosh.Apart from all this big men I listed no one else(I dont think I missed no significant one) they all are average to mediocre, if you dont have one of these then your chances of winning a title are under 1% considering you will have to face 2-3 of this big men in a playoff run and secondly two of them are teamed up with two of the top 3 players in the planet, so riley go ahead offer phoenix/toronto beasley and whatever and get it done with please!
     
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    Pat Riley texts Dwyane Wade extension offer, with no meeting set

    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/sfl-miami-heat-wade-s071309,0,7821929.story
     

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