2013 NBA free agency and offseason thread

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  1. HarryBagpipe

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    Sorry, free agency starts tonight at midnight and I had to make a thread to laugh at the Knicks. 3 picks for bargs. Lol. To put it into perspective how bad the signings of Novak an camby were, in order for the Knicks to lose those contracts they had to take on bargs 11 million + contract and give up 3 picks including a first.
     
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    Yeah, Knicks definitely got fleeced in that trade.
     
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    Only the Knicks make a trade like that. And Masai Ujiri proves again why he is one of the best in the biz. Really wish the Nuggets could have kept him. Really hope Iguodala re-signs but he's looking for a big pay day.
     
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    From what I've been reading it doesn't sound like he's going to be back with Denver. I saw earlier today that the Pelicans are interested in bringing in Iguodala. If he signs there, the Pelicans might be a sneaky good team.
     
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    Really hope the heat get oden. I know he's a huge question mark but its really intriguing what he might bring. Ray ray took his option so heat nation is happy about that

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    Hope the nuggets do too. Probably my favorite west team. Fun to watch without any true superstars
     
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    You knew that Allen would opt back in to be with this team.

    Since my Sixers are more than likely going to be terrible this season, I'm definitely rooting for the Nuggets. Even in years past I would pull for the Nuggets in the playoffs. Golden State is another team that is fun to watch, so it made their series this year a little difficult for me. Now don't get me wrong, I'm still going to watch the Sixers, but I already know the results of their games for the most part.
     
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    Actually most thought that Allen would opt out and than resign with us to a longer contract for more money which we would of given him. Ray let us have him for a cheap one year contract.
     
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    He knows he has a good thing going and doesn't want to mess that up. At this point in his career, I'd like to think money isn't the biggest thing to him.
     
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    given you have their 2014 pick you better hope iggy doesn't end up there...he's not a first or 2nd option but he's a solid 3rd one on a playoff team...new orleans has some pieces...iggy would help that team

    if i'm the heat i sign oden in a heartbeat...if he gives you anything given how cheap he will be it's stealing...easy decision...not that you wouldn't win another champ without much help...lebrons that damn good...

    knicks are no threat to the heat...too finesse...only threat to the heat is indiana...they have no real answer for hibbert other than just throwing bodies at him...and he's learning how to play the game without fouling
     
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    I know. I'm hoping for the 6th-7th worst record since the pick is top 5 protected. If Iggy goes there, he would definitely help that team, possibly make it a playoff team.

    Not a believer in Brooklyn? I'm not, but I was curious as to what your take is on them after their big trade.
     
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    i'd believe more in brooklyn if pierce and kg could come off the bench...kg i just don't know how much that poor guys got left...he leaves it all on the floor everytime he's out there...pierce would be a nasty off the bench scorer but i don't know that his ego or brooklyns roster will allow it...

    jason terry fell on his face in boston this year...talk about a guy i expected more from...age has just caught up with these 3 players...i think they'll beat the knicks if they match up in the postseason but they won't beat the heat or the pacers...

    i didn't know that pick you guys got was top 5 pick protected...that changes things... i didn't think you should get noel and an unprotected likely lotto pick for that price...makes more sense now...although hell i might have traded jrue for noel straight up... if i got a choice b/t a big and a scoring guard i'm going with the potential of the big every time...provided the guys worth it and i think noel is...

    now our pick olynck or whatever his name is i was hoping like hell we wouldn't take that softy from that soft conference...hate it

    i think brooklyns issue will be the defensive boards...especially if/when they match up with a say indiana for instance in the postseason...depends on the matchup but i see em out by the 2nd round...and that's if all those aging vets can stay healthy which is a big if
     
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    Brooklyn is gonna have a real tough time. A slow team that doesn't rebound and has a bunch of guys that like to take low percentage shots in the half court......I don't see that one ending well.

    If Riley can snag Oden and hes able to come in and play 15 minutes a game somewhere close to the level he was playing in Portland this Heat team would be scary good. I've got no faith in his ability to stay upright though.

    Other than that this offseason should be extraordinarily uneventful for Heat fans. Summer league should at least be fun and there are some really talented guys to root for to make that last roster spot. Kabongo was an elite PG prospect, DJ Stephens is an incredible athlete, and the kid they drafted, Ennis, has the makings of a Leonard/Danny Green type player if he can put it all together.
     
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    Spurs offer 4 yrs 36 mil for Splitter??

    What being 7 feet tall and being able to run a couple miles a day without injuring yourself can get you in this world....
     
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    chicago is the biggest threat to the heat, and the heat know that.

    lets not forget, the bulls have not had rose the past 2 postseasons, and assuming rose comes back fully healthy, which ill give him the benefit of the doubt considering how young he is and how much time off hes had to heal, that alone makes the bulls better than the pacers. rose is that good.

    not saying the bulls would beat the heat for sure, although i do believe they can. the bulls are really really good when healthy.
     
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    In what world does Martell Webster get a 4 yr/ $22 million deal?

    Please, someone enlighten me.
     
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    Three team trade sends Redick to Clippers, Bledsoe to Suns, picks to Bucks

    http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports....k-to-clippers-bledsoe-to-suns-picks-to-bucks/

    Good trade for the Clippers.
     
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    Now all the Clips need is someone who can play defense.
     
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    Don't know if there are any realgm posters here besides electrolyte but this was awesome

    On the general board someone started a thread saying "Kobe starts shooting again". The response by a poster

    Brilliant.

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    Anyhoo. In Philly the past few days on business so I was listening to the fanatic and it seems the vast majority are in favor of the sixers trade
     
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    People definitely have supported the trade. At first, we were all in shock, but later we realized what was actually going on. They knew that they would be stuck in mediocrity for even longer if they kept the roster they had. So, the change was welcomed here.
     
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    I think most of us have been wanting the Sixers to tank for a good while now. A draft containing Andrew Wiggins, Jabari Parker, and Julius Randle is as good a time as any to start doing it.
     
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    It is being rumored that the Heat are intrested in Bynum. Who I would like better than Oden, assuming they found an arthritis cure.
     
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    I'm sure the Heat would love to have Bynum come down here and play for the minimum......my guess is that Bynum is thinking of being paid a tad bit more.

    Riley will make his pitch to Oden. If the 40 yr old wants to go somewhere else he'll probably fill the last couple roster spots with youngsters.....cheap labor that if need be can be replaced by some vet getting bought out mid-season.
     
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    we'll just agree to disagree...
     
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    Not to be super heat homer(well maybe a little) but if miami stays healthy they should roll thru the east easily. Against Indy we played awful. Battier and Allen couldn't hit a shot to save their lives and wade was playing on one leg. On the other hand hibbert was playing like Moses Malone, indy was playing their best ball of the year and the heat still won. I know indys defense is good but not that good. During our 27 game win streak, wade was arguably the 2nd best player in the nba behind Lebron. He got hurt and he went from a top 5 player to a middling player.
    If he was healthy we probably win in 5.
     
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    i think you underestimate the pacers given how physical they play and hibbert has learned how to play defense without fouling...but if wades healthy then things are different sure...but the spurs aren't a physical team i don't know why people think they are the pacers beat on the heat pretty good and i think it wore on some of the guys...not lebron but some of the others...and bosh can't defend hibbert...

    still no doubt in my mind heat are the favorites next year too...
     
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    thats alright, i just believe so many people now, with obviously the heat winning back to back, the pacers having that big playoff run, with george having his coming out party and taking the heat to 7 games, and with all the moves the nets have made, i feel people are just totally forgetting about the bulls.

    this bulls team when rose was healthy had the best record in the nba in back to back seasons, winning 60 plus games in roses mvp season 2010-2011, followed by 50 wins in a 66 game lockout shortened season.

    this bulls team also played the heat pretty physical this past postseason, with a lottery team type lineup (ok maybe i am pushing it a bit but an extemely banged up team without rose, deng, and hinrich,) and if healthy, they still imo are at worst the 2nd best team in the east, or dare i say the league.
     
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    To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if the bulls get the one seed. Not saying they are better than the heat but thibs pushes his team harder in the regular season than any other coach. Heat will coast much of the regular season and the bulls play every game like its a game seven. Whether this helps is team or wears them out come playoff time is another story.
     
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    i really hope we get to see heat bulls in playoffs with both teams healthy, because that would be truly a great series to watch.

    the bulls are the only team i really think can beat the heat in the east. also having 2 of the top 3 players in the nba on the same court in a series is always fun ( yes derrick rose is a top 3 player when healthy, if u want to say durant its debatable because they are different players, but even so, top 3 at worst, and yes he is better than paul)


    we have been robbed the past 2 seasons of that match up, lets hope we get it this up coming season.
     
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    Well to be honest, we did see the matchup in 2011
     
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    yes i understand, but the bulls team has improved since then.

    i still cant believe the bulls lost that series. they dominated game 1, and they had game 2 in hand until they choked in the 4th quarter. that was the year to beat the heat. after chicago choked away game 2, chicago was not the same.

    although, all games were very tight, physical games.

    it just sucks how the bulls have not been healthy the last 2 seasons, miami chicago had a chance to be a great playoff rivalry. i guess it still can, but who knows what miami will look like after next season.
     
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    To me the Bulls give the Heat trouble not because of Rose but because of Noah, Gibson, and Boozer. The combination of size and length and quickness lets them do things on the defensive end that no other team in the league can do against the Heat. And Boozer just beats up on the Heat frontline.

    The Heat made Rose into a very ordinary player, and unless he has developed a consistent jumper in this time off I don't see any different outcome.
     
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    First things first...rose needs to play and show he is all the way back...those young players on the pacers will only get better...Hibberts soft touch around the rim is already damn good and Paul George has become a high end defender and even shown he can beat James off the dribble...pacers need a pure shooting perimeter player
     
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    Knicks are the hawks. Just a treadmill team.
     
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    Knicks definitely making some terrible moves this offseason.
     
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    Saw this posted elsewhere. Thought it was pretty funny

     
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    I have mixed feelings. Bledsoe is a better player. The Clippers, though, need a quality shooter more than they need a back up PG. I've been a Clippers fan for a while - just recently got rid of my L. Odom jersey - and (for a change) it's an exciting time for the franchise. Realistically, though, we need Griffin to step up in a big way, or we need more help.

    Exciting hire for Boston. Given the rebuilding mode, I think it's a great move.
     
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    Woj reporting that Iguodala signs a 4 yr/$48 deal with the Warriors. Probably means they're out of the Dwight sweepstakes.
     

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