2014 Combine measurements: RB

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    Antonio Andrews ​
    Western Kentucky ​
    5-10 ​
    225 ​
    4.82 ​
    4.69 ​
    1.68 ​
    20 ​
    29.5 ​
    8-10 ​
    9 1/2 ​
    Dri Archer ​
    Kent State ​
    5-8 ​
    173 ​
    4.26 ​
    4.28 ​
    1.46 ​
    20 ​
    38 ​
    10-2 ​
    8 7/8 ​
    George Atkinson ​
    Notre Dame ​
    6-1 ​
    218 ​
    4.48 ​
    4.39 ​
    1.53 ​
    19 ​
    38 ​
    10-1 ​
    9 3/8 ​
    Kapri Bibbs ​
    Colorado State ​
    5-9 ​
    212 ​
    4.67 ​
    4.60 ​
    1.60 ​
    24 ​
    29 ​
    8-10 ​
    8 1/2 ​
    Alfred Blue ​
    Louisiana State ​
    6-2 ​
    223 ​
    4.63 ​
    4.63 ​
    1.56 ​
    13 ​
    32 ​
    10-1 ​
    9 7/8 ​
    Ka'Deem Carey ​
    Arizona ​
    5093 ​
    207 ​
    4.70 ​
    4.62 ​
    1.59 ​
    19 ​
    32.5 ​
    9-7 ​
    9 1/2 ​
    J.C. Copeland ​
    Louisiana State ​
    5-11 ​
    271 ​
    4.95 ​
    4.93 ​
    1.72 ​
    23 ​
    28.5 ​
    9-3 ​
    10 ​
    Tim Cornett ​
    UNLV ​
    6-0 ​
    209 ​
    4.48 ​
    4.45 ​
    1.60 ​
    DNP ​
    34.5 ​
    10-5 ​
    9 1/4 ​
    Isaiah Crowell ​
    Alabama State ​
    5-11 ​
    224 ​
    4.57 ​
    4.50 ​
    1.55 ​
    23 ​
    38 ​
    9-9 ​
    9 1/4 ​
    Timothy Flanders ​
    Sam Houston State ​
    5-9 ​
    207 ​
    4.75 ​
    4.65 ​
    1.68 ​
    20 ​
    32 ​
    9-5 ​
    9 1/4 ​
    David Fluellen ​
    Toledo ​
    5-11 ​
    224 ​
    4.72 ​
    4.66 ​
    1.66 ​
    DNP ​
    36.5 ​
    10-0 ​
    9 1/8 ​
    Devonta Freeman ​
    Florida State ​
    5-8 ​
    206 ​
    4.58 ​
    4.50 ​
    1.59 ​
    DNP ​
    31.5 ​
    9-10 ​
    9 5/8 ​
    Tyler Gaffney ​
    Stanford ​
    5-11 ​
    220 ​
    4.49 ​
    4.43 ​
    1.53 ​
    DNP ​
    36.5 ​
    9-8 ​
    9 ​
    Marion Grice ​
    Arizona State ​
    6-0 ​
    208 ​
    DNP ​
    DNP ​
    DNP ​
    DNP ​
    DNP ​
    DNP ​
    9 1/4 ​
    Ryan Hewitt ​
    Stanford ​
    6-4 ​
    246 ​
    4.87 ​
    4.70 ​
    1.72 ​
    DNP ​
    33 ​
    9-1 ​
    9 1/4 ​
    Jeremy Hill ​
    LSU ​
    6005 ​
    233 ​
    4.66 ​
    4.63 ​
    1.56 ​
    20 ​
    29 ​
    9-5 ​
    10 3/8 ​
    Carlos Hyde ​
    Ohio State ​
    5117 ​
    230 ​
    4.66 ​
    4.62 ​
    1.65 ​
    19 ​
    34.5 ​
    9-6 ​
    9 5/8 ​
    Storm Johnson ​
    Central Florida ​
    6-0 ​
    209 ​
    4.60 ​
    4.50 ​
    -- ​
    1.63 ​
    35.5 ​
    9-10 ​
    9 1/2 ​
    Henry Josey ​
    Missouri ​
    5-8 ​
    194 ​
    4.43 ​
    4.40 ​
    1.53 ​
    20 ​
    34.5 ​
    9-10 ​
    9 1/2 ​
    Tre Mason ​
    Auburn ​
    5084 ​
    207 ​
    4.50 ​
    4.44 ​
    1.50 ​
    DNP ​
    38.5 ​
    10-6 ​
    9 ​
    Jerick McKinnon ​
    Georgia Southern ​
    5-9 ​
    209 ​
    4.41 ​
    4.35 ​
    1.46 ​
    32 ​
    40.5 ​
    11-0 ​
    8 5/8 ​
    Trey Millard ​
    Oklahoma ​
    6-2 ​
    247 ​
    DNP ​
    DNP ​
    DNP ​
    DNP ​
    DNP ​
    DNP ​
    9 1/8 ​
    Adam Muema ​
    San Diego State ​
    5-10 ​
    202 ​
    DNP ​
    DNP ​
    DNP ​
    DNP ​
    DNP ​
    DNP ​
    9 3/4 ​
    Ladarius Perkins ​
    Mississippi State ​
    5-7 ​
    195 ​
    4.46 ​
    4.40 ​
    1.54 ​
    23 ​
    35.5 ​
    10-4 ​
    9 5/8 ​
    Silas Redd ​
    Southern California ​
    5-10 ​
    212 ​
    4.70 ​
    4.68 ​
    1.62 ​
    18 ​
    37 ​
    10-2 ​
    9 ​
    Bishop Sankey ​
    Washington ​
    5094 ​
    209 ​
    4.49 ​
    4.47 ​
    1.59 ​
    26 ​
    35.5 ​
    10-6 ​
    10 ​
    Lache Seastrunk ​
    Baylor ​
    5-9 ​
    201 ​
    4.51 ​
    4.45 ​
    1.60 ​
    15 ​
    41.5 ​
    11-2 ​
    9 1/4 ​
    Charles Sims ​
    West Virginia ​
    6-0 ​
    214 ​
    4.48 ​
    4.47 ​
    1.56 ​
    17 ​
    37.5 ​
    10-6 ​
    8 1/4 ​
    Jerome Smith ​
    Syracuse ​
    5-11 ​
    220 ​
    4.84 ​
    4.77 ​
    1.62 ​
    14 ​
    36 ​
    9-10 ​
    9 3/4 ​
    Lorenzo Taliaferro ​
    Coastal Carolina ​
    6-0 ​
    229 ​
    4.58 ​
    4.53 ​
    1.63 ​
    18 ​
    33 ​
    9-10 ​
    8 3/8 ​
    De'Anthony Thomas ​
    Oregon ​
    5085 ​
    174 ​
    4.50 ​
    4.34 ​
    1.57 ​
    8 ​
    32 ​
    10-4 ​
    8 1/8 ​
    Terrance West ​
    Towson ​
    5092 ​
    225 ​
    4.54 ​
    4.56 ​
    1.59 ​
    16 ​
    33.5 ​
    10-0 ​
    9 1/8 ​
    James White ​
    Wisconsin ​
    5-9 ​
    204 ​
    4.57 ​
    4.52 ​
    1.57 ​
    23 ​
    32 ​
    9-6 ​
    8 1/4 ​
    James Wilder ​
    Florida State ​
    6-3 ​
    232 ​
    4.86 ​
    4.78 ​
    1.72 ​
    18 ​
    35 ​
    10-1 ​
    9 3/4 ​
    Andre Williams ​
    Boston College ​
    5113 ​
    230 ​
    4.56 ​
    4.53 ​
    1.56 ​
    DNP ​
    38 ​
    10-9 ​
    9 ​
    Damien Williams ​
    Oklahoma ​
    5-11 ​
    222 ​
    4.45 ​
    4.40 ​
    1.57 ​
    16 ​
    35.5 ​
    10-1 ​
    9 1/8 ​
     
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    Storm Johnson is lighter than I thought and Isaiah Crowell is bigger than I thought.
     
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    Ya I was shocked at Storm's weight...think that Hyde's at a perfect weight.
     
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    He may be a little too big but we'll see how he runs. I think Ricky Williams was 5'10" 225 lbs his last year with the Dolphins so Hyde is basically the same relative size.

    I've got my eye on a few RBs in this draft...late round guys like Storm Johnson, Isaiah Crowell and Charles Sims.
     
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    Gotta like any player with the name Storm .... especially in South Florida.
     
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    As a UCF fan I love Storms game but he does have questionable hands at times. If he can hold onto the football kid could be a very special NFL player.
     
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    Hyde for me
     
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    Day 2 On Filed Drills
     
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    207 is bigger than I expected Carey to be. If he carries it well, and if Hill's off-field issues cause him to take a hit, Carey will be the first back off the board.
     
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    Williams and Wilder are the guys i got my eyes on.
     
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    I know some people like Wilder, but the guy runs too upright. He does not have the speed. I think you are looking at a guy that has a 2-3yr career.
     
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    Sankey with 26 reps, size 10 hands...

    Combine has only made me like him even more...
     
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    Seastrunk dominating the broad jump & vertical.

    I really like his game. Could be our Shady McCoy in Lazors offense. Although I do prefer we have a bigger/power back. Lot of RB's to like in this draft
     
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    For the record, the 40 times aren't a huge deal for the RBs
     
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    AND it looks like Hyde is done
     
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    agreed on 40 times. I like to look at broad jump, 3 cone & shuttle. Tells me much more about lower body power/explosion and agility. 40's more for show

    ---------- Post added at 12:58 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:57 PM ----------

    dude has tree trunks for legs!
     
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    I will say this Jerrick McKinnon was expected to run a 4.6 and just ran a 4.38 and had over 30 reps on the bench. Kid was really productive at a small school so depending on how he does in drills he may have my attention
     
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    I don't care much for any of the combine, but it does expose weaknesses IMO, especially when a guy like Kadeem Carey only runs a 4.65.. Ewwww, I knew I didn't like him, but I do t think anything is changing my mind now.
     
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    well Carey was expected to run a 4.55, and only 2 of the top 10 RBs were expected to run faster than a 4.5 (Seastrunk and Thomas). Not a huge deal if he does well in interviews and drills though
     
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    I'd normally agree with you, but he doesn't have the size to be 4.65 guy. He's not physical, and comes from a questionable system.

    I Really think he's this years Dion Lewis, as time goes by he will drop down the ranks because realistically what he was good at in collge, wont be enough in the NFL, and his weaknesses will begin to be highlighted a lot more.
     
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    Mason and Sankey are my favorite RB's. I am still not down on Hyde.
     
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    he just backed that up with a 4.35. Dude is on par with Seastrunk in his vert and broad as well. Hell of a performance so far
     
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    Especially ZBS running backs. Look at all the guys that ran for over 1000 yards under Mike Shanahan...Terrell Davis (4.72), Olandis Gary (4.71), Mike Anderson (4.69), Alfred Morris (4.67), Clinton Portis (4.42)...only Portis was sub 4.5. ZBS running back need to have vision, be able to cut quickly and run with some power.

    Keep this in mind before you judge these guys based off of this workout. You can only evaluate a proper ZBS type running back off their game tape. These workout just give some confirmation on what they show in games. Having said all that I like Charles Sims from WVU...and a main reason is that he can pass block.
     
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    Interesting. Good info. Which backs in this draft class are considered pure "1C" backs?
     
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    Mason looked phenomenal in that cone drill.
     
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    Ka'Deem Carey is the top rated Zone Blocking RB.

    Terrance West
    Devonte Freeman (FSU runs a ZBS).
     
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    Carey was slower than I expected. Williams can't catch

    Sankey & White are my 2 preference to replace D Thomas. Sankey is not excelling at anything rather doing all things really well.

    McKinnon (Ga Southern) is intriguing. Mayock was saying he could even be a CB or Safety.
     
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    Any more dirt on McKinnon?
     
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    Eh this group as a whole is mediocre at best. Nothing special here, i'd pick up a vet for sure and also i'd take a flyer on Wilder since we know he'll drop to the 6th-7th round now from the running in shorts evaluation.
     
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    Don't like Wilder...runs too upright.

    I think Carey's slow 40 time only helps us. He's the right fit for the ZBS. Also like Terrance West and Charles Sims. Sims has over 200 career receptions and we could really use a receiver out of the backfield.
     
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    I know the NFL is a totally different beast, but I have always been impressed with how Wilder still runs over people and doesn't go down easy, even though he runs more upright, unlike Daniel Thomas. And if he did fall into the 6th or 7th, I'd draft him in a heart beat.

    That said, next year is shaping up to be a really good RB class and I would be okay with holding off on a RB unless there's value.
     
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    Some of you will remember named Rod Bernstein. He was a 6'3", 240 lb rb for the Chargers who clobbered people. The problem was he ran upright and took a beating. That's who Wilder reminds me of.
     
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    I like the numbers posted by Jerick McKinnon, Georgia Southern......Benched it 32 times and has a 40 1/2 vert??? Wow. I will see if I can find film on him. Might be worth a look.

    Jerick McKinnon Georgia Southern 5-9 209 4.41 4.35 1.46 32 40.5 11-0 8 5/8

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    Carey is a lightweight back, similar in size to Miller. I don't see it working with 2 small backs. We need a bruiser.
     
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    I'd also prefer a bigger back, but Carey runs with much greater physicality and instincts than Miller. Carey had me when I began to realize that he was wearing down D's in the 2nd half - much like your classic 215+ bell-cow back. No one expected Carey to be fast, but that 40 time will probably cause his stock to fall. I think the good teams will take advantage of guys like Hill and Carey falling down draft boards.
     
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    I"ll take Freeman on Day three and laugh all the way to the bank.
     
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    I certainly agree, he can do it all. This is a good year to draft FSU heavily.

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    Can Carey bust through D-line walls is what i'm wondering. Miller and Thomas couldn't. With a whole new offensive line we'd have to think there will be growing pains no matter who we sign or draft. Maybe Carey could wear the D down, but just maybe they'll wear him down and make him a non factor..

    I'd just feel a whole hell of a lot better going with a heavy bruiser type that is known to run through contact and that can hold up blocks. Idc about speed, we have Miller for that. I'm really looking for a 1-2 punch type of backfield. A guy that can come in and block for Miller so that he can get more than 1 yard, a guy that can hold up in pass protection, a guy that can get the 3rd/4th and inches and just a guy that will punish a db 1 on 1.
     
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    Tell me what you think.
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    Miller is 6', 205 lbs...Carey is 5'9" 207...if Carey were 6' tall he'd weigh 222 (rule of thumb, 5 lbs of muscle per inch of height). Carey is not a light weight, he's actually pretty good size.

    LeSean McCoy 5'11" 208 lbs - not a bad running back but I guess since he's not 230 lbs he's a lightweight.
    Matt Forte 6'2" 218 lbs - Take away 5" of height and he's 5'9" 193 lbs. He's not a "thick" player.
    Jamal Charles 5'11" 199 lbs - now he's a lightweight. He had a decent season I suppose 1287 yards rushing, another 693 receiving...was about 40% of Kansas City's offense.
    Alfred Morris - 5'10" 218 lbs - Good size RB.
    Adrian Peterson - 6'1" 217 lbs - Take 4" of height away and he's 5'9" 197 lbs. Also not a thick player.

    That's not to say that the taller players with more weight doesn't make a difference it's just to point out the size/weight ratio that you're making a big deal out of because you're only looking at the weight and determining that the running back is a lightweight. If you saw a guy walking down the street who was 5'9" and 210 lbs and another guy 6'2" 210 pounds which one would you think look more overweight?

    By the way the 5 guys listed were the top 5 rushers in the league last year.
     

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