2nd Round Wide Receivers

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  1. SF Dolphin Fan

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    I've seen a lot of mocks lately that have as many as six wide receivers going in round 1. With the passing game such a priority in the NFL these days that is a possibility. But, I really wanted to discuss the wr's that could/should be there in the 2nd round. It's possible Miami goes wide receiver or tight end (Eifert) in the first, but I still think it's more likely a position the team fills in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Here are some I think will drop. Would love to hear others thoughts as well.

    Robert Woods -- The way USC is using him this year can't help his stock. I think he could be a real good fit for Miami, though, because his strengths are route running and he knows how to get open. His skills won't wow you, but he is a good player and probably ends up going end of round 1.

    Stedman Bailey --- Probably too small to be drafted in the 1st, but that's still a possibility. I like his toughness (love the video with Bailey going against Claibourne) and his productivity. Seems to know how to get open.

    Terrence Williams --- Need to hear from someone whose seen him play first hand. Has the size and speed. How would he fit in a Philibin offense?

    Aaron Dobson -- Intriguing guy, but I haven't seen him live. Looks to have really strong hands to make some great catches. I'd guess his speed is 4.55 range.

    Marquess Wilson -
    - I really think he goes round 1 and could be someone Miami trades up for if he falls a little bit. I would love an Eifert/Wilson scenario with a trade back up.

    Da'Rick Rogers -- Ability is there, but you've got to answer the character issues. May drop to round 3.

    Kenny Stills --- Also a guy who might drop to round 3.

    Am I forgetting anyone?
     
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    How about DeAndre Hopkins from Clemson?
     
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    Yep, if he comes out I'd put him in the 2nd round.

    Markus Wheaton, some people like Keenan Davis and Cobi Hamilton.

    And this kid...Aaron Mellette.

    [video=youtube;swnBirD6HR4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swnBirD6HR4[/video]
     
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    Wheaton towards the bottom of the second, I think.

    Based on that video of Mellette, he is raw as all hell. Not a guy who's going to produce for you for a while.
     
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    Aaron Dobson is still a stud. He's facing more double teams and bracket coverage than any WR in the country this year.
     
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    More productive than Brain Quick who the Rams took 33rd overall...about the same measurables...only reason I put him up there.
     
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    Cordarrelle Patterson
     
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    Puhlease, Hopkins should be a top 20 pick.
     
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    no thanks on any more raw playing against terrible comp project wrs...i've learned that lesson already with gates...mellette i'll pass...give me someone who's played and excelled against solid comp at least...and someone ready to contribute from the jump...they're out there
     
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    DeAndre mother****ing Hopkins!!
     
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    Not saying he's a target for us but like Brian Quick was a reach this kid has a chance someone reaches for him. That's all I'm saying.

    I am tempted to say Quinton Patton but I think he'll go early 3rd round.

    And DeAndre Hopkins is not top 20.
     
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    Wrong.

    :lol:
     
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    I thought of him, but isn't he a sophomore?
     
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    I like what I've seen of him on tape. Who would you compare him to and do you think he'd be a good fit for a WC offense like Miami's?
     
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    Nope he is a junior... He came from a Junior college
     
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    Hopkins is not even the best WR on Clemsons team. Stop being a homer.
     
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    brian quick is a camp or two away from roberto wallace status...
     
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    Interesting prospect for sure.
     
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    I don't disagree I'm just saying the Rams took Donnie Avery in 2008 with the #33 pick and now they've taken Brian Quick at #33...there's always one GM who's thinking outside the box. If the kids been productive and he's got the measurables someone will take a chance on him. I'm not concerned cause I know it won't be us.
     
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    hopkins in the top 20 is a bit rich...
     
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    Well I'm a firm believer that explosive talent fits any offense. I don't know of any offense where talent doesn't fit.

    A lot of the concepts that Marshall runs under Doc Holliday fit West Coast principles. Holliday has coached a lot of receivers in college that were fits in a WCO at the next level, going all the way back to Koren Robinson and Jerricho Cotchery.

    I'm not sure who I'd compare Dobson to because there's a lot of comparisons to be made, although he's always reminded me a little bit of Germane Crowell when he came out of Virginia some years back.
     
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    The latest Bleacher Report mock had him going late first round.
     
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    Never seen that kid before I read this thread. What little I can find of him online is very impressive. He has tremendous acceleration and those hands are magnetic. Good route runner. Great blocker. Marshall seem to play a high tempo offense with a lot of variety, which suits ours. I am impressed. Would like to find more to watch on him.
     
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    I'm on the Markus Wheaton in the 2nd round Bandwagon.

    Dion Jordan (Oregon DE) in the 1st as well.
     
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    Donnie Avery wasn't looking bad for them before his knee exploded to be fair. Quick was a measurable pick. Extremely raw but it does say something that he can't get many looks with Amendola hurt and the other WRs being Steve Smith, Brandon Gibson, and Chris Givens (who to be fair is proving to be a great deep threat).

    Dobson is an interesting prospect. DC had him as top senior WR preseason (rankings haven't been updated since Terrence Williams is 3rd) and dude catches everything
     
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    Dobson was on my radar but unfortunately I switched internet service providers and I no longer have access to ESPN3.com. Marshall is never on TV so I can't get a look at this kid.
     
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    Someone said Marquess Wilson could slip to the 3rd round. This kid might slip further than that...seems he has some off-field issues.

     
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    to be fair, Mike Leach is insane so it's really hard to know what's going on out there.
     
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    The issues with Wilson go all the way back to the spring. Leach has been trying to coach him up in an attempt to get him to practice and work hard since he took to the job.... no success.

    Leach is strange and has his own history of bizarre behavior, but you have to question Wilson's ability to be coached at this point. Leach is tasked with trying to change the losing culture at Washington St. and was tired of the lazy and sloppy practice habits.

    If the right coach can get through to him, they'll have themselves a playmaking wide receiver in Wilson.... but it's risky at this point. I don't see teams shying away from him very long once he makes it out of the 1st round. Certainly don't think the odds are good of Wilson coming back to play another year under Leach..... might as well declare early and move on if it's just not going to work out for you in Pullman.

    Kids like Mike Williams have quit on their team in the middle of the season, get drafted in the 4th round, and become a starter quickly.

    Guys like this are perfect fits for the NFL where there's established leadership in the lockerroom. If they won't listen to their coach, they tend to listen to certain guys in the lockerroom. But not always a good fit for college football. Fact is, there's a lot of teams in the NFL who trot out guys in their starting lineups every Sunday that aren't as talented as some of these college kids, and teams will take a chance on talent.
     
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    his speed/size putting up decent numbers with a bad QB. He's still very raw/young but has a lot of potential if he master the use of his size advantage and good leaping ability. He's a lock for first round if he comes out next year.
     
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    Lock for first round? How fast does he run?
     
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    He's 6'6 runs 4.45
     
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    Maybe with the tape sped up, lol. That guy runs 4.6 on a good day.
     
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    ? I believe that's the same time vincent ran as well nothing that extreme, you don't think he can't at the combine?
     
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    Vincent who? If he's 4.45 then he doesn't play 4.45, he plays a lot slower.
     
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    Vincent Jackson
     
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    Yep Vincent Jackson ran that but I don't see Brandon Coleman with that kind of speed.
     
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    I like Patterson from UT. If he stayed his senior year, he would def go in the first round. I think with a great combine, he mat still go with in the 1st round. If not and we can get him with a 2, he would be a great pick
     
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    Honestly, you only take a project when you have time to develop them.
    That being said, I wouldn't mind us doubling up and getting a project guy like D Robinson in the late 3rd/4th round if we can land a stud like Keenan Allen in the first.
     
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    are you referring to Denard? I wouldn't even look at him till the 6th.

    3rd or 4th round you're still looking at some really solid wr prospects, ala Tavon austin, Stedman Bailey, Josh Boyce ,Tevin Rese, Kenny stills.
     
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    Woods is playing his way out of the first round
     
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    I wonder how the Marquess Wilson quitting will be seen by scouts?
     
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    That is a good question. He could still go in the 3rd or 4th I would think. Another interesting addition now is Da'Rick Rogers. That could be a 2nd round target for Miami.
     
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    Miami would probably pass on both these guys because of major character concerns. As for how it hurts Marquess Wilson's stock...ask Mike Williams of the Bucs...he quit on Syracuse and was drafted in the 4th and doing pretty well and that was a kid I was hoping we'd take a chance on but Ireland plays it pretty safe for the most part.
     
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    I hate the fact that so much talent in college comes with character issues. Rogers is an awesome WR but is going to fall big because of his off field ****
     
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    I'd be more comfortable with Wilson over Rogers. Rogers was dismissed for failed drug test...that's not a one time offense and you're gone at Tennessee. He had to have been busted several times.

    Either way I just don't see Ireland taking a chance.
     
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    I agree and take Wilson of Rodgers. Just sucks that his talent will end up wasted cause he is a druggie.
     

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