Discussion in 'College Sports Forum' started by TedSlimmJr, Sep 5, 2010.
Good luck tonight Crimson Tide!
I hope little Nicky loses
Go Clemson. Go ACC.
How's that working for you? Roll Tide!!!
Well done, gents.
Congrats Bama fans! What great game!
Congratulations Slimm, Namor, and all of the Tide fans. Outstanding game, best NC game I've seen in a while.
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I know there's a few Clemson people around here, and I'd like to say a few things...
First, be VERY, VERY proud of the way your team played. Hell, I'm proud for 'em myself. Most teams wouldn't have hung in there with Alabama when they start really pouring it on in the 4th quarter of games like this. Understand something.... Alabama doesn't just want to beat you, they want to physically beat you up, and make you quit. And most teams do.
Clemson punched back. They proved they were a championship team. They are. However, the news gets even better for Clemson in my opinion, which I'll touch on later.
I've been around Alabama football a long time. I love every championship team that we've had in my time....going back to the 1960's. But I don't know that I've ever been more proud of a team than I am this one. This team had more doubts than any of the previous championship teams that we've had under Coach Saban. Starting with the quarterback. Jake Coker earned this football team. The hard way. He earned it in a loss at the hands of Ole Miss. A game in which he inexplicably, didn't get the start. When Coker came into that game and nearly led them to the come from behind win, they became a team on a mission. They wouldn't settle for anything less than a championship.
As for Clemson, make no mistake, they'll be back in the playoff next year. Perhaps Watson will enter the playoffs with a Heisman Trophy next year as well. Whatever Derrick Henry was telling Deshaun Watson when they embraced at the end of the game, and Henry wouldn't let him go.... I agree with it. Watson is a special, special player. He's the reason Clemson wouldn't stay down. Nothing rattles Watson. It's his poise and composure that is so rare. Forget the incredible physical talent, accuracy, athleticism, and dual threat ability. Players like him don't come along very often. You better believe it.
I've always been a fan of Dabo. Being a Bama boy and being a member of one of my other favorite Crimson Tide teams back in '92. His team plays like their coach. Like a bunch of walk-ons with a chip on their shoulder. I'll be a Clemson fan in 2016.
Lastly, I'm happy for Coach Saban. This is what his "process" accomplishes when everybody buys in. This is a nearly unprecedented run in college football that he's built at Alabama. The media will want to talk about whether or not he's the best ever, and compare him to Bear Bryant. I would have to give that answer a lot of thought. I couldn't answer it right now.
But I know this, he's in the conversation.
Yeah Clemson fans should be proud. What a game.
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Namor this one's for you. Roll Tide
I just threw up in my mouth a little.
Then I laughed at Bama fans not being able to count. There's only 15 rings there. :lol:
Fifteen rings plus the one being manufactured..."16"....West Virginia talking about education? come on Bump...
Getting close....Trojans..get ready....Lanes back!!!
They just thought Derrick Henry was a beast. Wait til they start trying to tackle this monster
In addition, Max Browne is a very inexperienced quarterback. He'll be getting the first start of his career against this defense in Dallas. Not good.
However, he's a big, tall, strong armed pocket passer with an NFL skillset. If he's able to somewhat successfully navigate his way through Alabama's defense and avoid disaster, he'll build on that throughout the season. If he does that, I believe Max Browne will be the guy in 2016 that comes from obscurity to find his name at the top of NFL team's wish lists.
Mr.Browne....meet Mr. Williams. ..
Does Scarbrough have speed or is he pure power? Kids a monster.
More speed and wiggle(if someone that size can have wiggle)..we shall see...I'm of the mind,that Henry was often overlooked for how special he really was.
Any thoughts as to why Saban never seems to get a prolific passer or top end athlete playing QB in his recruiting classes? If Browne develops as you hope, he'd be the first on NFL wish lists in quite a while that I can recall.
Its pretty true for most SEC programs....you have Kelly and maybe Dobbs that are good and outside of that...?
Max Browne plays for USC not Alabama. But to answer your question, I just think for Saban it's more important that a quarterback facilitate, manage the game, be a steady leader, and not go out and try to do too much. At least that was the case when he had McElwain or Nussmeier as offensive coordinator. It's probably a little different now with Lane Kiffin. His offense requires a quarterback with a different skillset than the previous two OC's. We might be seeing a freshman start for Alabama at quarterback this season. Jalen Hurts is a freak.
However, nobody else in the country has the talent and depth Saban has at Alabama. They can't just line up and win championships with the same formula that he can win with at Alabama. They need the Deshawn Watsons and Jameis Winstons or Marcus Mariotas to win.
Saban's job is to win championships, not necessarily to get prolific passers or top end athletes playing QB. I think he might be ok there.
Saban probably doesn't mind everybody else talking about how prolific and great their quarterback is. He better be.
I think that's pretty true for every conference. You might have two QB's that are good, the rest are unproven or just not very good.
The difference however, is that the SEC has better talent throughout the conference. They have better teams overall that aren't so quarterback dependent. Every year recruiting statistics and the NFL draft bears this out. For example, 109 out of the top 300 recruits in the country for 2016 (36%) signed with SEC teams. That marks the 11th straight year the SEC signed the most recruits in the top 300.
Which basically means that leaves the other 64% spread out among the rest of college football.
Just wait till Jalen Hurts gets to take over as QB...Then you are going to see what happens when Nick has that "special " QB.
Wasn't Alabama heavily recruiting Watson?
Sarkisian rumored to join your staff soon. As if you needed any more coaching help. Dude knows how to get through to QBs. And get super hammered.
This is interesting because I thought the lawsuit against USC where they breached his contract on account of his alcoholism (dude?) was still happening. Pretty ballsy, alabama.
Alabama easily looks like the best team in football...I thought there was a chance for someone to maybe sneak in there and give them a loss, doubtful...
As long as he doesn't bring in Todd Marinovich next I don't see a problem with it.
Don't know how Saban can call someone a quitter when he's one of the biggest quiters there is.
Did Saban quit anything after four games? during a season ? he even made it thru a whole year of the dumpster fire that is the Miami Dolphins before he took a better job.
Only a convict orange fan..
Nick Saban is scum. He quit on our Dolphins never gonna forgive him for lying about not being interested in leaving and then he left. Hes a great coach but hes a douche
who cares?....Instead of waiting till the season was over...I wish to God,he had just told the truth and said...I'm gone now,..this is a dumpster fire....and ten years later?...who was right?
I still believe that if Saban had a strong GM and didn't have personnel duties, he would still be the Dolphins coach and we would be very relevant. He is a great GameDay coach but an awful GM.
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Butch Jones and his gimick offesnse needs to be fired! Back to drinking now I'm sure I'll be calling for Gase's head when I wake up!
Oh bye just to go ahead and get this in before the steeler's game FIRE ADAM GASE HE SUCKS WORSE THEN BILL CLINTON!!!
I think I found a coach worse then what tennessee has don't blieve me watch the game against the steelers and find out.
urgh sobering up grats on the win.
Don't beat yourself up..Tennessee's a good team..just not real deep. I think this bama team and ohio state are the cream of the crop this year.
Leave him be, that's all you can do Namor.
Some fanbases have such short memories they require "processing" every year.
Next!!!! Lets see if A&M is ready to step up in the heavyweight division.....