Andy Reid: Branden Albert, Dolphins aren't talking

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  1. ANUFan

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    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...dy-reid-branden-albert-dolphins-arent-talking
     
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    Yes this is not nearly as far along as people believe. There's no permission, or contact between Albert and the Dolphins. There's no physical, nothing going on that way. The Dolphins and Chiefs may have had some discussions about him but that's as far as it's gone. It's gone no further.
     
  3. finsfan4life

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    Don't listen to Andy Reid. There's no doubt in my mind that the Fins are talking to him. Hell, he's probably at the facility as we speak.
     
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    Miami may not be talking to Albert directly, but don't be fooled by Reid's comments.

    In order for a trade to work out, Miami HAS to talk to Albert's representatives to get an idea of what he wants in a new contract.

    No trade gets done without Miami and Albert working out new deal after a trade is made.
     
  5. ckparrothead

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    No. He's not.
     
  6. finsfan4life

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    I was being facetious due to Andy Reid's questionable history when it comes to things like this. He might be correct in that we're talking to his agent instead of him.
     
  7. Austin Tatious

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    Translation. Miami has offered 82. Reid wants 42 or 54.
     
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    someone's lying
     
  9. finsfan4life

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    Well let's see. It's either John Clayton or Andy Reid. Andy Reid has a vested interest in lying, John Clayton does not. I'm going with John Clayton.
     
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    You have made my day. I thought Ireland was halfway towards turning the off-season into a dumpster fire. I'm not completely oppsed to Albert in Auqa and Orange, but it isn't worth a 2nd rnd pick and $9 million per.
     
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    I would rather not trade for Alberts. Especially before the draft. I would rather sign Winston.
     
  12. hunt4luck000

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    that sucks, i hope we dont trade for albert, i want to keep our picks n get a rt on round 3 ... is not our fault they gave their 2nd away for alex . why should we give them a 2nd back ...
     
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    I trust Clayton more than Andy Reid.
    Regardless, let's see how this plays out, hopefully some light will be shed over the next few days.
     
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    I trust John Clayton's report more than Andy Reid's comment.
     
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    So ESPN and NFL Network are the new CNN...
     
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    1. Albert
    2. Winston is not in the Fins' plans.
     
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    I totally agree...
     
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    Andy Reid was informed this morning that Albert's agent could talk with Miami.

    Exactly like the Alex Smith trade, once that message traverses his fat neurosystem he will be aware...sometime tomorrow morning.
     
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    Andy Reid owed it to himself, his remaining family and his next team (in this case KC) to take at least a year off to decompress.
     
  20. PaleAleExpress

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    The only thing us Fin fans felt like we had a good chance of doing this off season was to sign Wallace. Nobody could have predicted all of the moves Ireland has made. Ireland is very good at playiing the waiting game some times to his benefit some times not. I am not ruling out anything after this free agent signing period. My guess is Ireland has targets at RT in the draft and if he doesnt get one of those, he starts the shopping right after the draft. Just my opinion. I would not rule out anybody.

     
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    ...and Nick Saban is still not taking the Alabama job
     
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    There are a lot of ifs for this offseason, but if all the other ifs turn out for the good, (wallace and grimes and keller all working out) then I'm not going to sweat trading for albert, if it means we stay at 12 and get someone who isn't a lineman, and for our second round pick pick someone who isn't a lineman. Much better than trading up and grabing a linemen in the first 6 picks and losing a second round pick in the process anyway.
     
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    Let's just pick up DJ Fluker in the second round.
     
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    1. He probably won't be there at 42.

    2. He doesn't fit this scheme. Like, at all. If you asked me who would be the very last lineman on God's green earth I'd pick for a zone scheme, it'd be DJ Fluker.
     
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    DJ FLucker will be LONG gone before the 2nd round
     
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    The chances of Fluker falling to the second are approximately zero percent.
     
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    He has to deny until its final that's how this works
     
  28. ohall

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    If we make this trade before the draft then our FO is going to look very stupid. He's not worth 9mill a year. Long was hurt but this guys has gotten hurt too. Only one season did he play all 16 games. If Ireland makes this move is going to put on in cap hell for the next few years. I know he wants to win now but this is crazy. I'm not saying Albert is a bad player. I'm just saying wait till we're on the clock and see how things go. Someone might fall. Someone always does and it won't cost so much plus he'll be younger and healthy. KC has already tiped their hand so why should we give in and send a 2nd round pick for a guy they don't want anyway? Specially at that price? The only good thing about this would be that we'd go for the BAP at 12 instead of trying to trade up for an OT but then again we should be going for the BAP anyway. nYou don't take the 18 best player in the draft with the 12 pick.

    Ozzy rules!!
     
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    i trust clayton over reid. what do you expect reid to say.. if the trade goes south then he can deny the whole thing ever happened
     
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    I'd trade a 3rd and a 7th but would not trade a 2nd.
     
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    1 - Fluker won't be there in the 2nd round, tho i do love him (don't LOVE his cement feet)
    2- The mock draft in your sig might be my favorite ive seen ANYWHERE
     
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    Am I the only one who forget Reid is with the Chiefs and was thinking, "Why would someone in Philly have an insight on what's going on in KC?"

    Forgive my spelling. This was sent from my phone.
     
  34. ANUFan

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    I'm very curious to know if the Chiefs are willing to take a LT AND keep Branden on the roster.
     
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    No way KC drafts a LT #1 and then keeps Albert on the roster with his huge 1 year price tag. They have to trade him and get something for him, else consider cutting him to save the $. We are in a pretty good position with all this and are better off waiting until draft day (probably between day 1 &2) to make some deal with KC for Albert (if we need to). I don't see any other teams willing to pony up a 2nd for him, so why would we rush to make a deal before then? We could be talking to his agent about what a contract could look like, so if we do make a deal, we can piece it together in a quick fashion. That way we find out the necessary details and Reid can have deniability if it doesn't happen. But who really knows for sure?
     
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    im pretty sure his franchise tagged contract is all guarenteed so cutting him isnt an option
     
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    yep, you are right, good catch! that's makes them in even tougher spot as they have to trade him otherwise keep him and eat his salary and probably get nothing next year for him.
     
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    Right

    We're all liars, son.-
     
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    Mort just clarified on Twitter that Reid meant Miami and Albert have not scheduled a meeting or have a physical scheduled to take place.

    But Reid did say that Miami and Albert's agent are talking.
     
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    That can't be true. What about what the insiders say? :)
     
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    Literally just saw on NFL Network that Reid said we have been given permission
     
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    Thanks Reid! For clarifying your own useless statement lol.
     
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    Oh I know. There were people here who believed they had inside information about the Fins not talking to Albert or his agent. That's why I posted that. I guess the trade would go down on Friday if it happens.
     
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    Yes that's about right. There's been no direct contact between Miami and Albert, meetings, physicals, or anything of that nature. Could change. But it's not "imminent" as people were making out. Andy Reid is obviously quite confusable, lol.
     
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    GODDAMNIT, Andy Reid is getting senile, and I want to trade with him. :)
     
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    That dude could be a total nut job and still talk you into giving up a 1st round pick for Ingle Martin.
     
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    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...randen-alberts-agent-may-speak-with-dolphins/

    I think it is moving at a good pace, eh?

    ---------- Post added at 07:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:25 PM ----------

    Contact with the agent would be the first move anyways...agree on a framework of a deal....have a physical. Finalize a deal and then talk finish the deal with the Chiefs.
     
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    Reid also called it a "dead issue" (for now) and said the Dolphins havent spoken to the chiefs for two days.
     
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    I wasn't trying to say its "dead" or anything. I have word I trust that Albert hasn't met with anyone, no medical stuff or anything like that has occurred or is even scheduled. I also saw Reid's total denial so I took that piece of info at face value (oops), but even if permission is granted doesn't mean meetings, physicals and all that are occurring or scheduled to occur.

    The impression the reporting was giving was that this thing is waist deep already, an inevitability. I don't think it's there yet.
     
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    To me it looks like we are sizing up what Albert wants in terms of a contract, and it doesn't look like terms are necessarily even close (i.e. there isn't yet a substantive offer). I hope we are just sizing it up and this point, allowing us to force them to blink on draft day. With what he will cost in terms of a contract, he's flat not worth a 2nd, but they might take less next Thursday night after they have picked when the pressure is all on them..
     

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