Barry Jackson 7/11/13 : Lamar Miller turning heads as Gore mentors

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  1. pillBOXhat

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    Really encouraging stuff regarding Miller's work ethic, dedication, and SPEED.

     
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    Now that was an awesome read! Got me going!
     
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    I'm really hoping we keep Miller, Gillislee, and Gray
     
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    I love how the Hurricane players look after each other. I'm expecting big things out of Miller. He was a beast at the U.
     
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    I hope Miller lives up to all this hype, kid has awesome potential
     
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    That's encouraging! I'm hoping he can be a durable back for us.
     
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    That's the key, to stay healthy..the kid looked good last year in spot duty, but the season is long, and the grind tough, when you're doing it full time.. but I'd like to see him play a full season unhurt..I actually think he can turn out to be special.
     
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    WWHHOOOOOOOOO!!! - Rick Flair
     
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    gettin me JACKED for this season man!!!! wooooooooooooooooo!!!
     
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    Jeff Ireland home run!
     
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    Agree injuries could be the only thing preventing this guy being a legit threat.
     
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    he just moved up on my fantasy draft
     
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    I follow him on twitter and I saw Lamar and Frank pushing sleds at the stadium not too long ago...

    I didnt know they were training to this extent, though. I am probably more excited to see Lamar Miller than Mike Wallace. And Frank Gore is the man... I wonder if he busted out his dolphin hat? :d-day:
     
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    Lamar Miller > Trent Richardson

    Said it before the draft. Said it after. Saying it now. I love the kid.
     
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    I certainly don't want summer to come to an end, but I CAN'T WAIT for Dolphins football to start!!
     
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    Yes I am manly enough to admit.... goosebumps!! Football is coming!!! Cant wait!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Christmas in September....Summer Claus...he brings football !!
     
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    It's so tempting to say "let's wait and see" when you have potential breakout guys like Miller. But if you go back and watch his snaps from last year - the vision, the feet, the cutback ability at the line of scrimmage, his "narrowness" when he hits the hole, the acceleration when he plants his foot, the downfield elusiveness - it's impossible for me to just take the conservative view that he's proven nothing so far.

    Factor in the supposed added strength, speed and understanding of the playbook - together with the influence of Gore - it's kind of mindblowing what this kid might do. The idea his footwork is BETTER than it was is frankly scary. Health is always the concern for a runningback, but history tells us that injury record (good or bad) doesn't guarantee future health.

    This kid's ability is way too exciting to file him in the "pending" tray. I foresee a very special run game this coming season.
     
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    matt moore said it best...more north south than reggie...exactly what you want in this scheme...scary if he's gotten even more explosive laterally...scary

    big year from this kid barring injury coming...
     
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    For all the talk about Miller's talent, it's his work ethic and relatively humble attitude that will make him truly special. He has been like this since high school. The only thing that could hold him back is injuries.
     
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    all the talent in the world won't matter to philbin though if he doesn't know all the checks and his responsibilities when tannehill goes to something else presnap...he says he knows the offense now...i sure hope he does...

    or it will be a short stay in the drivers seat...i think we're getting a 1200 plus yard double digit td season out of miller this year...i trust he knows his assignments but it won't take long to find out
     
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    There's a lot of hype that I'm not inclined to buy into. The Lamar Miller hype is an exception. That was an inspired draft decision, IMO.
     
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    i buy the tannehill and lamar miller hype...i want to buy the grimes hype...i don't buy the armon binns brandon gibson and dustin keller hype...
     
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    I didn't even know there WAS Dustin Keller hype.

    Ryan Tannehill I like but I'm not hearing anything that makes me think he's going to be leaps and bounds better in his second year. I think it will be a smoother, steady progression. I don't expect a 90+ passer rating this year, for example.
     
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    Wow. Hall of fame game is only 3 weeks away
     
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    CK I have to agree with you here. I have to buy a lot of the Miller hype as it makes sense to me. You watch him last year and he looks the same as he did in UM. clinton Portis/ E James ish to me. So you have to believe the hype is right. My concern with Miller is the injuries from College. Hopefully he has his body healed and conditioned for the long run. I also HOPE one of the other backs step up their game to give Miller a needed rest. I see him as a 1100 yard 8-10 TD 300yard reieving back.
     
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    don't blink you may miss the 1's....ha ha
     
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    Lamar an excellent choice for RB2 for FF
     
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    Ha true. But there's a bunch of 2s and 3s I'm looking forward to see. Is jamar Taylor supposed to be back by the start of training camp?
     
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    i sure hope so...yeah preseason games are good tape to evaluate the unknowns and unprovens...i try not to pay much attention to the guys i know are players already...focus on the pups and the camp bodies that earn a spot
     
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    Another thing leaning in miller's favor is that most of the teams on our schedule were some of the worst at defending the run last year.
     
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    Good read thanks for posting.
     
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    Still not a buyer on his physicality overall, particularly his physicality/vision in short yardage. I'd love to be proven wrong but I still see Felix Jones.
     
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    Exactly my concern as well. He will be talented and he will gain yardage. Will he eliminate mental lapses in the passing game and stay healthy though? That's something I don't know.
     
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    I'm fired up now, wishing the next 3 weeks away so we can finally watch some football.
     
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    This was warm and fuzzy. I cried a little...........

    Really, Lamar Miller is working out at Bommarito Performance Systems with a bunch of Drew Rosenhaus's players. He (Drew) is smart enough to make sure "his" players are always at their best. Then he makes more money.

    As a history buff of all kinds, I've seen the NFL change as far as off season. (I'm also really old). Years ago a lot of players would simply relax all summer. Then over time you started seeing more team driven off season workouts. In the last several years, we have seen more and more, players going to special off season training facilities. Often though at least in part by being pushed by their agents into it.

    In 1963, writer George Plimpton attended preseason training with the Lions. He wrote a book called Paper Lions which was made into a movie (which is not on Pirate Bay :( ). It shows how players would show up overweight and out of shape. Funny read and/or movie.

    As fans, our players working out extra is what we want to hear, not that our star DT Billy Bob Jenkins plans on "working himself into shape" during camp.
     
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    interesting points...i noticed last year in camp and the preseason up til the finale he was not taking contact well...maybe protecting that shoulder a little and timid of contact...but i didn't really notice any of that in the regular season...

    short yardage i think you make a good point...not sure i see a lot of goal line back stuff here so i doubt he'll get many cheap tds..i think he's stouter on his feet and built lower to the ground with better balance that feliz jones though...and he carries close to 220 lbs very well...you wouldn't think he weighs that much looking at him in pads...
     
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    On the downside, three words came into my head watching his interview on Finsiders:

    BUBBA GUMP SHRIMP
     
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    But he's not very physical and he's shown a tendency to get injured, which means it's not really helping him. Weight is only a means to an end. It should help you be more physical, but if you're not physical at the weight then the weight isn't really doing anything for you. Look at Daniel Thomas, who's the opposite of physical despite being 230 pounds. If anything the extra weight could be stopping you from being more explosive and making more people miss.

    Some guys are just physical and some aren't, which is why the Felix Jones comparison fits so well for me with Miller. They're the same size and speed and have a similar style. Jones has proven to be a train wreck from a injury perspective but as a rookie he averaged nine yards a carry on 30 carries and 5.9 yards per carry in his second year on 116 carries.

    The shoulder thing in particular isn't what concerns me. I mean, how many running backs suffer from long term shoulder issues? I can't think of one. Ankle/knee issues like what Jonathan Stewart is going through is much more specifically concerning. What I'm more worried about is it always being something. He's not naturally physical which means he's always going to be absorbing the blow.
     
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    i think the weight and being low to the ground matters for a couple reasons...you give the opposition less to hit and to target and don't get blown up as much unlike daniel thomas for instance and it helps with guys not being able to just arm tackle you etc...miller will run through arm tackles and shed guys that come in high well given how he's built and the balance he shows...

    but i do get the not naturally physical stuff and think it's a valid point and a hard one to argue against... still i like his body for contact on the inside more than i did reggie bush's...everytime reggie ran all i kept waiting for is him limping off the field...doesn't have the body for inside running
     
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    In regard to him being physical, he runs with good pad level, tends to fall forward, and he breaks arm tackles. For a guy with good vision, who looks to get up field, and is downright explosive once he puts his foot in the ground (which he does MUCH sooner than Bush), I think that's plenty. Health, holding on to the ball, and his non-running responsibilities (pass blocking, grasping his assignments) are the only concerns I have for Miller.

    ---------- Post added at 11:23 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:22 AM ----------

    Not to say that those concerns are insignificant.
     
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    I know the English language has changed in the last several years. (personally I hate made up words). Especially words made up and influenced by rap music.

    I seem to be hearing this term physicality quite often from players and now I have heard it from the media.

    Is Physicality actually a word? Really?

    BTW. I also expect big things from Lamar Miller. He was great Cane and hopefully becomes a great Dolphin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/physicality
     
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    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/physicality

    Definition of PHYSICALITY


    1

    : intensely physical orientation : predominance of the physical usually at the expense of the mental, spiritual, or social


    2

    : a physical aspect or quality
     
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    You have to factor in that one of the last/slowest things to develop, anatomically-speaking, is the musculo-skeletal frame. There are a number of health reports circulating in the sport of rugby presently about the dangers of loading muscle mass and weight on an immature musculo-skeletal frame. Guys between 16 and 20 are being advised in rugby circles to tone down how aggressively they attempt to gain bulk, for fear it causes all sorts of anatomical side effects on hips, knees, ankles, shoulders, back and on the incidence of bone breaks.

    Given the impact a running back faces and the necessity for him to pile on weight and muscle to cope with that, it surprises me that there aren't more cases where the bones and joints aren't fully capable of supporting the physical development that is loaded on them.

    So, when I see injuries in young college athletes like Miller - who haven't reached maturity in terms of bone density or joint development, I don't think it follows necessarily that injuries will arise in the future, when they do have the frame to support their bulk.
     
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    I definitely can see Miller having a sophomore surge the same way Ridley did with the Patriots last year. Just having Wallace's speed threat out there is going to prevent teams from lining up to stop our running game. Hopefully our OLine is up to the task of creating a lane or two for him.
     
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    And the word was first used in 1660...that I didn't know.
     
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