Barry Jackson: Notes and Quotes

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  1. Hayden Fox

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    "The Dolphins know they must make at least one high impact move in free agency. Ross expects "to spend a lot of money," a close associate said."

    Wallace, Hartline, Bess, Austin, and Matthews

    or

    Jennings, Patterson, Bess, Austin, and Matthews :juggle:
     
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    oh boy here we go
     
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    I hope it is Wallace and not Jennings.
     
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    Crazy how they mentioned at least 10 holes just as us realists have and yet Ireland survived.

    that article is more depressing than anything else.
     
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    I don't see Wallace as a problem child, much less on the level of BM. All that problem child stuff has been overblown in my opinion, and we'd be fortunate to get him.
     
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    I agree with almost all of that. Glad to hear some of the stuff echoed in there that I seem to get so much grief for believing and told so often that is wrong, like Casserly saying Wallace is not a complete receiver, all of them deciding between Jennings or Wallace but not thinking Bowe is the answer. Also, suggesting that even with a very down year that Long is a good LT and that Martin isn't, and Jerry isn't a quality starter on a good team, we need to upgrade the defense to get turnovers, etc. etc. etc. Barry Jackson puts out useful information and analysis ... always a great read. Thanks!
     
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    Much like 99 percent of your posts...jeez.

    Yes, this team has some holes, but guess what? We've got the capacity to fill a LOT of them!
     
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    Barry Jackson is by far my favorite writer. He always has the best and most useful/unbiased pieces and south Florida reporting would be devoid of anything of substance without himself and a couple others.
     
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    I agree with Phil Simms on the free agent receivers. None is a must have. It would feel like patchwork, something that probably wouldn't fully pan out. Wallace would be a great asset but also the receiver equivalent of what Reggie Bush is criticized for, looking terrific in some games then all but taken away in others.

    Herock is correct on Jonathan Martin. I watched him against Buffalo and he looked acceptable. But I posted I wanted to see him against better competition a week later against the Patriots. He flunked that one. Martin is more natural at left tackle but he lacks top ability. Strength alone is not going to fix it. David Shaw didn't try to pretend Martin was definitely agile enough for left tackle in the NFL. He said, "That's the question."
     
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    Resign long to a friendly deal. Lock up Hartline and throw the bank at Wallace.
     
  13. So Be

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    Interesting to see Theismann say that "In Hartline, you have a Greg Jennings type. Hartline is probably faster than Jennings."
     
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    Don't worry...This is really the year Ireland learns how to be a GM.......................:rolleyes2:
     
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    Theisman needs to put down those pain meds, lol @Hartline faster than Jennings. He only gets a pass at his use of the word "probably". Jennings is both faster and more shiftier than Hartline. Not to mention is a better deep threat and actually knows the endzone. Smdh
     
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    http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/s...ne-trying-to-prove-that-he-can-be-the-/nSZXh/

    Pretty good read on Hartline's speed, and what he does with it.
     
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    Do people forget you can only win games with Scoring points? Not speed. Not shiftiness. Not Exceptional route running. Scoring Points. As in , Touch Downs. Something both Wallace and Jennings seem to do. and do Often.

    In the 2012 season the Miami Dolphins only had Two WR touch downs. I ask you, Do you want to win, or continue the mediocrity?
     
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    Found this part interesting.

     
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    First i went through this thread and read the part Nublar quoted:

    Then opened the article and read:

    Im suddenly filled with foreboding about how that money is going to be spent.
     
  22. Phinadict

    Phinadict And away he goes...

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    holy crab cakes. Had no idea we were THAT inept at the position this year. Now that is depressing.
     
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    Not sure if it is really that interesting or surprising. I think everyone already agrees that this is Ireland's make or break year. He needs to deliver this year.
     
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    I am sure some money is going to go towards the offensive line, it has to. Either Long gets money or his replacement does. Addressing the offensive line though is not the "impact" signing Ross and Ireland are talking about. It will likely be one of the two big time free agent receivers (Jennings or Wallace)

    Can't wait for March 12th, this is going to be a very fun and exciting offseason for the Dolphins. :)
     
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    My favorite part of the article went after the guy I can't stand in a fin's uniform and made mention of a guy I was high on - I still hate that trade and not because the Colts did better than anyone thought. Because we traded a good starting CB and have none on the roster. The only thing I disagree with Casserly on is the "physical guy" bit - unless he means the shape he's in - because he hits like a chick from the Lingerie League...

    Added Casserly: “Sean Smith is a physical guy, but when he’s facing quick, change of direction guys, those are the guys that give him trouble. Cornerback needs to be upgraded there.”
    Though Smith prefers to stay, it's looking like he might get more money elsewhere. Miami ignored Smith in recent months while starting talks with Hartline, Long and Randy Starks.
    “You can’t pay Smith $8 million or $9 million a year,” Herock said. “They promote him as a top corner, but he’s not. Vontae Davis is the better corner, and he would have been cheaper next year ($1.1 million) than Smith.”
    Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/#storylink=cpy

    ---------- Post added at 03:07 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:06 PM ----------

    How many years have we been "upgrading" the offensive line - it's insane!
     
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    It does go against the sentiment that everyone in the league this that Ireland is doing a good job as a GM. Granted that guy isn't with a team anymore but, if he was, he probably wouldn't be free to say something like that.
     
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    You said it, he isn't in the league. So he doesn't have any first hand knowledge of how things are going in league circles. Also, I am sure there are people in the league that don't like Ireland or question him. At the same time I bet there are people in the league that don't like and question Bill Belichick. You are never going to find a person that everyone likes or agrees with. It is like Ryan Clark and Joey Porter saying that "No one wants to play for Miami" yet stars like Greg Jennings want to be in Miami and why Reggie Bush keeps going public that he wants to stay.

    You might be surprised at how many league insiders respect Ireland and think he has the team on the right track to building a consistent winner. With that said, this remains a make or break season for Ireland.
     
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    Question for everyone who thinks this is a make or break season for Ireland: Has Ross said anything in public that can be construed as saying that Ireland is out if things do not improve dramatically? If so, what and when? If not, then why should we believe that Ross will get rid of Ireland if he does not succeed? Frankly, I think Ross may be happy with the current state of mediocrity in the GM office. After all, he hasn't done anything to change the way we acquire players in the last four years.
     
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    Well, it has been made clear that Ross is placing the blame of the problems between 2008 and 2010 on Parcells. Ireland pretty much got a clean slate by the owner starting with the 2011 offseason. That means in the eye of the owner, Mike Pouncey was Ireland's first draft pick not Jake Long. Obviously there are fans that don't agree with that and will say "well what did Ireland do those first 3 years?" Good question, but in the eyes of the owner he was being held back and over ruled by Parcells.

    So technically this could be considered Ireland's third offseason and if you don't produce a winner within three years you will be shown the door. Ross even made a point in his post season press conference that winning is the ultimate plan in 2013 and Ireland needs to deliver. Another big factor indicating this is a make or break offseason for Ireland is that his contract expires after this season. If the Dolphins have a losing record again in 2013 there is no way Ross will give Ireland a contract extension.

    I really hate when fans say that "Ross doesn't care about winning" or that he "loves mediocrity" that is such a dumb argument. Ross spent more money than any owner between 2009 and 2010 on free agents. This article even states that Ross is expecting to use a lot of money this offseason. Ross wants to win, and don't for one minute think he is "happy" with losing.
     
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    It's more interesting who they didn't comment on.
     
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    Why is Ross' opinion a source of validation for you? I like him because he has been willing to spend money and step back, but i have yet to see how he's some shrewd football mind. He did resign Tony Sparano after all. He is paying Carl Peterson for...well, heck, i have no idea what Peterson is doing(which im fine with as long as he isnt GM, but still raises the question of why he receives a paycheck). And didnt he put out a feeler for Eric Mangini in an advisor role? Those names arent exactly Bill Walsh, Ron Wolf, and Tony Dungy.

    And i guess Ireland "technically" never cashed a paycheck. Anyone else miss the days of Don Shula and accountability? There was no question about who did what. And when something didnt go right Shula stepped forward and took the blame. Then again that didnt happen often because Shula actually won games. At one point in time not going to the Superbowl was considered a failure of a season. Now our fans fawn over 7 wins.

    Can you please show evidence that states Ireland will be fired if we dont win next year. Ive seen nothing to indicate he will be gone. Heck, i listened to this all last offseason("he has no more excuses, he has a good coach now and you can win with a rookie qb!") and that turned out about as expected. Our owner publically stated he expected a playoff run and would consider making changes if we had another losing season...and is apparently satisfied with our sub-.500 year. I have run across no evidence showing Ross will feel differently next year.

    Also, Ross has stated he is only responsible for this past year. Before that he couldnt really be called owner, because he didnt have his own people in place. So "technically" he doesnt get credit for spending that money. After all, he didnt have final say, right?
     
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    jerry was a problem in the run blocking...if he would have just picked up the right man at the 2nd level or stayed on his feet more we would have done more damage there... not happy with his play in that regard at right guard...

    always great to read "sean smith is not as good a corner as vontae davis"...ughhh what a mistake that was...totally agree with the sean smith can't locate or find the football...it's really bad even when he's in good position...good luck finding vontaes tools at the cb position in the 2nd round...

    greg jennings is a step up from brian hartline even if they are similar players which i would disagree about anyways...both heady football players but unless age is actually catching up with jennings this really shouldn't be a close comparison...i can see some concerns about what jennings has left in the tank...if need be protect yourself in that contract to give yourself an early out if you can...if the moneys close roll the dice on jennings...hartlines not getting you over the hump

    wondering where the red zone win options are gonna come from...if it's the draft having a hard time finding wrs that consistently win as the field condenses...eiferts a red zone win option te...even if you land a wallace or jennings you still must find red zone win guys...

    i also can understand the concerns about martin on the left side...this kids not uber athletic or outstanding feet...but he's got a little nasty streak he seems to put poor snaps in the rearview he's got the right mentality and he competes...he could overachieve down the road
     
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    We need speed on both sides of the ball as well as guys who make fricken plays, game changing plays!!!

    ---------- Post added at 03:45 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:43 PM ----------

    I like where Casserly said Sean Smith is physical. ..LMAO!! He can't be talking about the Dolphins Sean Smith because Smith is as soft as cotton and can't tackle let alone play physical.
     
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    Not to nit-pick but just off the top of my head I remember Hartline, Bess and Moore all catching TD's. Agree with you though, we need at least 2 new receivers.
     
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    I enjoy Barry's articles. They're always useful, unbiased and informative. thanks for the post!
     

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