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Biggest Impact in the EAST

Originally posted by The Beach Bum
This is exactly what i have been thinking about Spikes all along... He never made a pro bowl, and i barely ever heard his name on ESPN or seen highlights of plays that hes made... I think he is very overrated and hasnt really proven a thing... I sincerely doubt that any buffalo fans watched him play when he was on teh bengals and say "Wow, he's good, i wish he was on my team."

To me, unless he makes a pro bowl, has consistant play this year, or gets on top 10 plays of the week for that matter, i have no respect for him whatsoever.
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okay man, this is wrong, first, I've always loved Spikes because he got me mad points on my Fantasy Football team;) ...second....did you hear about the last game of the year in Buffalo last year?....Bills fans cheered his name when it was announced, and some Bill fan actually said to him, "Takeo, do really well today, but don't hurt any of our players cuz you're going to be their teammate next year"....Bills fans know their football, and they know that having a great LB like him can do wonders for a defense.
 
I'm sorry Muck I really dont think he's the answer, its my opinion, and i dont think that the coaches were all that wrong to not start him last year. Wanny likes to flip flop in his interviews all the time, so that really means nothing to me personally. I really dont like the guy, if he proves me wrong thats great, but how many over 30yrs old speed receivers still perform??? Hey more power to him if he performs, and it is just my opinion, which means nothing.
 
Originally posted by stan marino
I'm sorry Muck I really dont think he's the answer, its my opinion, and i dont think that the coaches were all that wrong to not start him last year. Wanny likes to flip flop in his interviews all the time, so that really means nothing to me personally. I really dont like the guy, if he proves me wrong thats great, but how many over 30yrs old speed receivers still perform??? Hey more power to him if he performs, and it is just my opinion, which means nothing.
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Stan, I guess you really have to go back to the 2nd part of last year and ask yourself did McKnight flopped or did he play pretty good, Do you remember Ricky William's fumbles...Do you remember McKnight catching that pass 2 inches off the ground at the line of scrimage and out manuvering the CB to gain 70 yards. Do you remember his sideline TD catch over 2 defenders in the NE game...Do you remember him beating NE on a post and Jay overthrew him that would have iced the game..Did you see Safties play up when he and CC started together, No they stayed back and Ricky started running wild. Hopefully you have some tapes of the 2nd part of the year, go back and look at them, Wanny blew playing him earlier. He played like the player we though we were first bringing in.
 
Like i said its my opinion, i disagree cuz even in the 2nd half he fumbled against the vikes and the bears. He's getting older, he's been a starter for how many games in his career, and this exact team didnt even dress him last year. U cant sit here and tell me it was all a big mistake last year??? He was the only healthy starter we had through out all the minicamps last year and then hes told to sit on the bench cuz the coaches missed something??? 3 other wr's started over him!!! Dont sound reasonable to me. But like I said its my opinion and we'll have to agree to disagree.
 
Biggest Flops in our division

2) Derius Thompson, the last thing Miami needed was another possession receciver, I think that with a great running game like they have Miami needs speed on the outsided to spread the field an McDrop is not the player that will open it up for them.


What good do burner WR's do us when we don't have a QB who can stretch the field?
 
Circling, Just because fans know about a player, doesnt mean that they watched the player. Take me for instince. I watched maybe one saints game when ricky was there, but when he got here, i read in the papers about how good he was, so i started to beleive he was one of the best without ever watching him... NE ways, you live in miami, how would you know what the fans in the stands were saying???

Also, i dont want to here the excuse taht he was in cincinatti...If he is so great, he would be a standout all star in a defense with no other stars. He should be making all the tackles, and making big plays. BUt that didnt happen, even in a horrible bengal defense. Zach had way better numbers (im pretty sure) and we had to face harder offenses than the bengals, AND Zach had to compete with his own teamates to make tackles... This is one of the main reasons taht i think T. Spikes is overrated, and if hes so great, i would like him to prove me wrong...
 
Originally posted by The Beach Bum
Circling, Just because fans know about a player, doesnt mean that they watched the player. Take me for instince. I watched maybe one saints game when ricky was there, but when he got here, i read in the papers about how good he was, so i started to beleive he was one of the best without ever watching him... NE ways, you live in miami, how would you know what the fans in the stands were saying???

Also, i dont want to here the excuse taht he was in cincinatti...If he is so great, he would be a standout all star in a defense with no other stars. He should be making all the tackles, and making big plays. BUt that didnt happen, even in a horrible bengal defense. Zach had way better numbers (im pretty sure) and we had to face harder offenses than the bengals, AND Zach had to compete with his own teamates to make tackles... This is one of the main reasons taht i think T. Spikes is overrated, and if hes so great, i would like him to prove me wrong...
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you think Takeo Spikes is overrated?..haha, I'll bet money he's in the probowl come February...this guy is a beast, and has consistently been one of the best LB's the last 5 years....btw, who played in front of him in Cincy?...no one...he took on blockers and still put up the great stats, and yes that does matter...for example everytime you play the Jets, Mawae is always in Thomas' face...imagine what Spikes can do with space-eating tackles in front of him, and a very good middle lb next to him...not to mention a pass-rushing specialist in Posey on the other side. a little off subject, but the only positions that worry me at all on defense(barring serious injury), are FS, and LE
 
Now we are going to get into cornerbacks...

Lets see... Clements had an impressive year with 6 interceptions, but winfield has done jack squat. I have no idea who sidney or thomas are, so, no comment. THis squad does not deserve the comment "ARe you joking?" THat is a comment for our secondary, but yours is unexperienced, and like spikes, has proven nothing.

Spikes had 171 tackles, 113 solo. and he is 6'2 245

Zach had 195 tackles, 129 solo. and he is only 5'10 235

Size makes a huge difference, and spikes had less numbers with less of a supporting cast. I take your DT comment into consideration, but, what great tackles do the bills have that will be any different??? Pat Williams i beleive will be good, but Sam adams is overweight and slow. Adams will be no match for fast centers like Mawae, and Williams is more of a pass rusher. Im not sure, is Kevin Hardy any good? I have heard his name before, and i think i ahve heard positive things about him. I know Fletcher is most likely better than him, but i was trying to make a point about the supporting cast around him.

Bowens was the only thing that Zach had to block off centers. He is great, but an often injured Larry Chester did not succeed as well as we thought, we hope he is better this year. Zach did not have a good supporting cast last year, but still... had good numbers...
 
oh, and how do you know he is a beast? I hate comments like this... I want you to HONESTLY tell me how many times you have watched him play, excluding buffalo games. If you have watched him, i apologize fully, but i do not like comments like that since you ahve obviously never been hit by him, or watched him consistently (most likely)
 
What are you talking about Bum? Larry Chester played very well last year. He also was nagged by that leg injury. He is now completely healthy, and I think he will surpass Tim Bowens as the best DT on our team.
 
Originally posted by The Beach Bum
oh, and how do you know he is a beast? I hate comments like this... I want you to HONESTLY tell me how many times you have watched him play, excluding buffalo games. If you have watched him, i apologize fully, but i do not like comments like that since you ahve obviously never been hit by him, or watched him consistently (most likely)
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The Bengals are rarely televised so I don't see him much, all I can tell you is he was on my fantasy team for a couple years and he was off the chain
 
btw...look whose playing in front and behind thomas...now look at who Spikes was playing with in Cincy....teams ran away from his side, and blockers were free to get up in his face, yet he still produced on a massive scale....put zach thomas in a bengals uni, see if their record differs last year
 
CW, just so you know, Clements stats were padded by Pucas last year. I think 4 of his INT's came from Lucas alone. That leaves 2 for 14 games.
 
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