Bill Parcells...

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  1. dolpns13

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    Curious; Who will be shocked, and or disappionted if Parcells leaves after the 2009 season, taking into consideration his quote of how he will stay for at least 2 drafts...

    FYI, this is not a bash session on BP. so if you intend on bashing BP, please feel free to not post.
     
  2. SRM

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    I won't be surprised, because we'll still have everyone else that's in this FO now (hopefully) and they know what they're doing. The Parcells presence would be heavily missed though.
     
  3. Blackocrates

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    I won't be shocked or disappointed but I guarantee you that the current Bill Parcells lovers will do a turn about and start hating on him like they did with Saban, or whomever.
     
  4. dolpns13

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    were luchky to be where we are now, hopefully he will stay for a third draft, but i fully expect him to leace after the 2009 season.. depending on how that season goes... i think anything after that we should be thankful for...
     
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    Saban fully deserved to be hated on... Bill saud he would stay for at least 2 drafts, which he is doing, Saban on the other hand, said he wasnt talking to alabama, then 2 weeks later, he was their head coach... how one can compare saban to parcells is beyond me


    EDIT: The Saban vs. Parcells comparison is really not where I saw this thread going, so hopefully, it can be killed now! Saban is one of the biggest POS's in professional football history (notice i say pro football history and not just NFL-meaning even prior to the merger), and Parcells definately deserves better than to be compared to Saban...
     
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    Not even in the same ballpark with beeyatch Saban..HDY..Parcells the man said up front he wanted an escape clause, no deceit there.

    I say we leave milk and cookies out for (Santa Clause) Bill, and start the fireplace for (Satan Clause) Nick (I dare him to show back up to Dolphins stadium!!!!!
     
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    I picked the wrong guy, but you can insert any name in there and it would work. The posters on here that have crazy love for a coach or player usually have the most hatred towards them when they leave. They're like scorned women or something.
     
  8. dolpns13

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    Wait, thats isnt true IMO... for example there is MUCH MUCH more love for Wanny than for Saban... Realistically, you cannot compare Saban to ANY Miami Dolphins head coach... or like I said, to every minimal head coach in (not only NFL), professional football history
     
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    I'd be more surprised if he didn't leave. Parcells has gotten out of contracts early before and i have no doubt he will be gone shortly.

    I was really sweating it before we redid the escape clause deal. If Parcells leaves next year, im extremely thankful for the foundation he layed down here. Was getting to used to bad drafts and new coaches.
     
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    I fully expect him to leave after this next season, honestly I would be shocked if he doesnt. As long as he doesnt tear apart our Coaching staff and JI, then i am ok with it.
    CHubbs
     
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    what do you mean "before we redid the escape clause"

    it went from a 30 day window, to be open ended. why would you sweat 30 days, but not open ended?
     
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    He asked for an opened ended clause most likely to insure the new management doesn't try to ruin his rep by forcing his hand...if Mr Ross can be trusted then Bill should have no problems. Complete control means complete control....this is Stephens team but it is Bills legacy to earn....unimpeded!!!!

    If he didn't get the extension the 30 days would have lasted 2!!!!!
     
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    not shocked or disappointed. Don't get me wrong, I think BP is a great football guru. But he was brought in here to turn around the Miami Dolphins. Not to run the team for a decade, but to help weed out the bad players and practices, and replace them with quality football guys. But primarily: find a GM and Head Coach that can/will bring success to Miami for many, many years. And so far, he's done just that.

    In Sparano's recent interview, he said, "We knew coming in this was going to be a two or three year deal to get where we wanted to be." I doubt Parcell's will stick around for his whole contract. But I wouldn't be too surprised if he stuck around for 2010, if there is a season. Until they get a new bargaining agreement in place, a strike or anything else is possible. Hopefully that won't happen though.
     
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    It's funny how we hear about Parcells redoing his escape clause after he did his whole media tour, but knowing full well he had finagled all the leverage he could get. He was spouting such things as, "I wouldn't leave my boys until they are ready to take over" or "where can I go." The man is egoist to a 'T'. No doubt he enjoys getting credit for all the success his teams achieve and last season was no exception. But really, how much of last season's 11-5 record due to Sparano? If the coaching was a big factor, Parcells can leave anytime as far as I'm concerned because we are in good hands.

    Frankly, next year the team may have a losing record and it won't be the ideal to time leave. We also don’t know what is going to happen to the CBA. For Parcells it wont be the best time to leave, unless the team somehow unexpectedly posts another winning season. If not, I'm expecting him to leave after year 3 and by then Henne will be starter, the team will have turned the corner and he can ride off to the sunset. Ireland and staff, plus Sparano would have gotten all they could out of the man. The hope is that he won’t raid our team when he jumps ship……
     
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    i think he should go after this year, Dave wanstadts contract is almost up at Pittsburgh anyone think we should bring him here? i heard hes really good at DEFENSE!
     
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    have to respect whatever decision he makes
    we'll need three years to rebuild & consistently contend in the NFL
    I think he'll see us thru 3 years & maybe even a 4th if the SuperBowl is on the horizon
    the Dolphins will be the end of his superb reign in the NFL & his crowning glory
    I think he'll want to see this one through, provided his health holds up.
    anyway you look at it, his work has been exemplar. thank God we've got him for at least 2009
     
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    I wont be surprised at all but one thing he said the other day on NFLN was that this thing is not truly turned around til we are in the playoffs two-three years in a row. He has clearly stated that he would not leave until the coaching and management staff knows where they are going.

    Dude loves to play golf. Love it in S florida. Loves the organization and the control he has. His job is basically part time during the season. Tons of money. Why leave? So he can get more money? If for anything...its to retire. He really doesnt need to retire because he is in retirement location right now and his life is made real easy.

    The other thing is that he starts something and has not finished. I think this time he would like to go out with something to show for it.

    I also would not be surprised if he stays his entire contract.
     
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    the more i have been finding out jeff ireland the less i worry. Bill has put all the peices in place and we will be fine for the coming years. If you go back and research who Jeff Ireland wanted in previous dallas drafts and compare it with parcels you may be surprised. The fins will be fine with or without parcels in the coming years.
     
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    I wouldn't be shocked by him leaving before, during or after the season but rather would expect it. The guy never stays anywhere.
     
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    You know someone that likes Wanny??
     
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    If he leaves that is ok with me. At least we will have had hi for tww seasons and he has put Miami back on the right track. My hope would be that the rest of the front office stays together. But over all I am thankful for everything he has done for the dolphins these two years.
     
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    more than Saban?
     
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    I think your reaction to Saban proves my point. He was loved that first year, now he's hated. I don't care about the reasoning, my point was that whomever gets mad love on this board almost always gets a ton of hatred at the end.
     
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    hes not hated because he went 6-10 in his second year, he is hated because of how he left.. In some cases the hatred you speak of is or is not warranted, in Saban's case, it is warranted 100%
     
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    PLEASE let this matter rest......Even "IF" he did decide to leave,there's ABSOLUTELY NOTHING anyone can do about it......except suck it up,and move on.....GEEEESH!!!!!!!
     
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    I would have been shocked and disappointed if he walked after the 2008 season. However, if he leaves after two years of giving his input and building the team, I wouldn't be as upset. I would be sad to see him leave, and while having him a third year would be a great resource, I trust that Ireland and Sparano can run this team themselves.

    Instead of speculating on something down the road we can't control, lets just enjoy every day that Parcells is here helping build this team.
     
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    I'm actually surprised he's still here, given the outclause in his contract. At the very least, I expected him to take $$$, then renegotiate with Ross.
     
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    :lol2: I knew there would be at least one :up:
     
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    I'm well aware of that. As I stated before I don't care about the reasoning, I'm just looking at the behavior. Parcell's will be hated by those that love him now. It never fails on this board. You've missed the point I was trying to make about posters on here that often go from one extreme to the other.
     
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    Saban is no Bill Parcells
    think positive: the guy is where he wants to be in the situation he desired & designed for himself, is loved & respected
    I think he'll stay until he finishes the job:D
     
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    Actually, I tend to think he will stick around a while. He won't go back to coaching for sure and I don't see him not working. He has the perfect job that seems to suit him at this point in his life. Control over an NFL franchise without the greuling hours coaches put in. He has a home is in S. Fla and he has time for his kids, grandkids and golf.

    To answer the question I would say that I will be a little surprised but not at all disappointed. What ever time he spends with this organization is something we should all be thankful for.
     
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    I never compared Saban to Parcells. Parcells is loved right now but if he leaves next year there will be posters on here that will incessantly hate on him. They'll be the same posters that can't stop singing his praises right now.

    It's better to live one day as a lion than a hundred years as a lamb.
    -John Gotti
     
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    i was a big saban fan when he came aboard because i am a lsu fan.

    but i don't fault him for saying he wouldn't be the coach for alabama. what is he supposed to say in the middle of the season. "pro coaching isn't for me, lets completely tank the rest of the year"

    i find more fault with him for the way he handled the media, ego, and his never quit talk/book. if your going to use the never quit talk then finish your contract like a man.


    as for parcells, imo he will finish his contract. he loves football, likes the area, has his pieces in place, big payday. why leave?
     
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    The biggest concern I have of the Tuna leaving, is him going to another team then raiding our coaching/FO like he did the Cowboys. Just look at them now, we are headed up and they look to be headed the other way. I would hope Ross keeps Ireland locked up in a contract giving him whatever he wants to keep Bill from taking him.
     
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    don't forget the way he slinked out, teleconferencing his assistants on the way out...while his wife took parting shots on the city.
     
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    I would be sad to see him leave, but be grateful for what he's done (assuming there are no boneheaded moves in the immediate future.)

    ...and if we ever consider Wannstedt again, I will set myself on fire. I'm probably one of the few that despises Wanny MORE than Saban because of "the New England game" several years ago. I'd rather have a liar leave us than have an idiot stay.
     

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