Bills falling apart at the seams

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  1. finfan54

    finfan54 A True Fan Donator

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    I have been painting the interior of my house this whole week and listening to alot of bills radio. Brad Davies show, who he talked to Jason Cole on Friday, has been lashing out at this franchise. Davies was putting up that they should do like us and get Pete Carroll and change everything from top to bottom and start from scratch. Alot of Bills fans disagree and were mentioning other coaches around the league that would be nothing but lateral moves and wastes of time.

    I quite frankly agree with Davies about Carroll. Carroll would know alot of the college talent like Saban and would have a top pick just like us last year.

    Bottom line, they realize that Donohoe is just what i called him 5 years ago. A fraud! A control Freak. It is going to take Ralph Wilson to fire him if he is going to make any changes that fans will buy tickets to games for.

    Looks like alot of seats for next years game for me! :D

    Anyways, the bills are in serious trouble and now Eric moulds will be available in the offseason which makes the market more nicer for us to land a nice WR. Have faith in Saban people! Cus we are sitting pretty in the long haul because we have a guy who gets it while others are just going to go through the motions like we did for a long time with JJ to Wanny.
     
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    I really don't want to discuss the Bills...

    Donohoe made his moves in getting Losman, McGahee and Evans. Those three are going to be the offense for Buffalo for years to come. If fans of the team expected those players to instantly turn around an offense that under Bledsoe struggled they are just being impatient. The Bills need to upgrade their line for the benefit of both Losman and McGahee, do that and I bet the team is much improved offensively in '06 no matter who the coach or GM happens to be. Defensively I think they just need to improve their line (hello Ngata).

    I think Carroll might consider a move to the AFC East, I just have a hard time seeing him leave warm, beautiful California for freezing, desolate Buffalo.
     
  3. Shouright

    Shouright A True Fan

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    And the interesting thing is that we could've easily been where the Bills are had we lost that game. THAT's why you try to win instead of tanking the season.
     
  4. AquaAssasin

    AquaAssasin Pro Bowler

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    they are wishful in thinking they would get caroll. first, He used to coach in the pro's and he didnt make it. second, why would he want to leave USC and where he is a god down here. I live in so. cal, he is a god among men.

    He is untouchable. Pete carroll is another Bowden, a legend!
     
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    Thats why winning is more important than worrying about a process.
     
  6. finfan54

    finfan54 A True Fan Donator

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    Actually, the Bills winning would have prolonged the obvious. I hope they stick with Donohoe. I pray every day now. Moulds being a scapegoat may spell that out. BTW, the word out early is that Moulds is being suspended because he questioned the play calling to Mularkys face. Has a player every been suspended for that?
     
  7. Agua

    Agua Fighting the media, one lie at a time

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    I hope they do get Carrol if they're going to make a change. Keeping Mularkey is fine by me as well, though.
     
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    finfan54 A True Fan Donator

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    Isnt that what people said when Saban signed his deal in Baton Rouge? Money talks and Carroll has already won 2 national championships and about to win another (or is it three already?) Carroll would love to prove people wrong.

    If I were Ralph Wilson, I would at least try. But I agree, it is not likely. That is why I am so happy. Donohoe is a great GM! ;)
     
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    I don't give a rats azz about the Bills. I WILLL BE, however, a huge Bills fan this Sunday when they play the Patriots.
     
  10. finfan54

    finfan54 A True Fan Donator

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    The thing that no one brings up is that alot of these moves were made while losing other players. This year was Jonas Jennings and Pat Williams. Last year it was Bledsoe and Henry. Year before it was Peerless Price and that MLB who went to the Jets. You starting to see something? He only traded players for other players, who took time to play or develope. That "offense for years" still has to prove alot. If the front office and coaching changes, will JP Losman develope under the right people through those changes?

    im tellin ya, its a very sticky situation in Buffalo. Oh BTW, Josh Reed may also be gone. Will Saban take a looksie?
     
  11. dolphan98

    dolphan98 Seasoned Veteran

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    Who cares?
     
  12. DannyBoy13

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    I hope they do make him their next head coach. He wasn't that good of an NFL head coach when he was with the Jets and the Pats, anyway. Pete Carroll is no Nick Saban, that's for sure.
     
  13. AquaAssasin

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    Saban was never a head coach in the pros. He was an assistant coach. Carroll situation is different. He was a head coach before and got fired. Went to the college ranks where he is a success. He's got alot more leverage in decisions in the college than the pro's.

    I really dont think carroll will going anywhere and im not saying that because I live in so. cal. I have a family member that plays for them right now. The word is that he aint going nowhere.
     
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    Donahoe is gone, Mularkey probably is too. Everyone that Butler brought in for the Bills Donahoe has basically cut lose, including Rebuen Brown who is very well liked in the Buffalo community. He seemingly has missed on two head coaches, and apparently sunday was the last straw.
     
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    I hope you're not talking about Saban, because that process is what won the game.
     
  16. Agua

    Agua Fighting the media, one lie at a time

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  17. DPlus47

    DPlus47 Out with LaMaga, in with Talita!

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    did wayne and ralph have a bet that if the bills win, the phins have to take donahoe and the rest of the bills' lousy front office? ;)
     
  18. AquaAssasin

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    yeppers, I really think he found his home at usc.
     
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    hey If we lost.. It would be miserable around here too.
     
  20. DolphinsRising

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    Skill players are all in their 2nd and 3rd years which is fine especially with the QB being something of a developmental guy coming out of Tulane. Anyway, I think the Bills have a core that can be built upon. If the team wants to continue their recent pattern of instability by firing everyone it's fine by me.
     
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    they need to win this week to give us hope
     
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    I think the Bills are going to beat the Patriots. They share some of that late-season scrapper attitude that's always characterized the Jets (back when they had talent). The Bills players are just plain UPSET about this game, have no idea how it happened. They'll be looking to take their frustrations out on the super bowl champs. The Super Bowl Champs, on the other hand, took a leisurely walk in the park against the Jets and will probably be expecting the same in Ralph Wilson Stadium...in for a rude awakening.
     
  23. DPlus47

    DPlus47 Out with LaMaga, in with Talita!

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    as long as they pound it and pound it with willis, it could happen.
     
  24. phinsforever

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    Amen to that! When people criticized Saban for the whole "process philosophy" thing I just had to laugh. Some people just don't get it. Of course he wants to win, but he is trying to preach to his players, staff, and all within the organisation, that in order to be successful( more wins) you need to keep your focus on the process and not on results. The results will follow once you master the process.
    I cannot believe how fortunate Phinfans are that we have this guy as our head coach.
     
  25. Agua

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    Not if they're in full melt-down mode.
     
  26. FaninPatsyLand

    FaninPatsyLand Welcome to Fenway

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    Pete Carroll is a horrendous Professional coach. It took Belichick a year to clean up the trash that was littered throughout the Patriots roster during his reign in New England.

    He's a great college coach, like Rick Pitino, but you don't want this guy running your NFL franchise.
     
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    The process leads to wins.

    :rolleyes:
     
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    On the money. The game is won in the trenches and they have pitiful talent at those positions
     
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    Don't worry about it. This is what fishypete does. He's not really a Dolphins fan.
     
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    :lol: C'mon Fishyfeet, what won that game? Saban's process is working. They played the game to win, coming back from a 'hopeless' defecit!
     
  31. fins1

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    Back to the topic, I just heard on NFL radio Moulds is getting suspended for conduct detrimental to the team. Go bills
     
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    Interesting....wonder if Moulds has anything left in the tank....and how he would look in an aqua uniform? Be nice to know he couldnt torch Sam again......
     
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    Pete Carrol after his stint with NE has learned a lot he will be a good coach in the nfl In my mind he helped build the Pats to where they were
     
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    Carroll failed as an NFL HC. He's a "player's coach" and did well as a D coordinator, but he's a guy that should stay in college football.
     
  35. FinNasty

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    Big difference... Pete Carroll wants to be in the NFL... And will go back when a great opportunity comes about. He wont take just any job... like Saban, he is waiting for the right one. One where he has a great chance to succeed and probably one with a rich history... not like the Texans or something...
     
  36. Predaphin

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    I love the idea of Carroll coaching the Bills! It would only mean a few more failed seasons....

    Carroll is not a good NFL coach to begin with.
     
  37. Agua

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    Yeah, he's too buddy-buddy with his players.
     
  38. ohall

    ohall A Miami Dolphins fan, not a players fan.

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    God that would be GREAT if they went after Carroll. He is a horrible NFL HC and I think that would be a GREAT fit! :)
     
  39. Mr Fan

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    Pete Carroll was a terrible NFL head coach. In college he has superior talent week in and week out. Why do you think he would be such an upgrade?
     
  40. DolfanISS

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    I know it's about the Bills but, Nice post. Bills fans did expect too much from those 3 instantly, especially Losman. I was reading there message board in the offseason and many of them just couldn't see anyway that Losman could be worse than Bledsoe. Even with the same crappy O-line and 12-15 less years of experience.
     
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    DolfanISS Perennial All-Pro

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    You need to get out more. Buffalo is our bitter rival. He posted it would be great if the Bills could get a guy who was a horrible NFL coach. Get it, easy win for Miami and more trouble for Buffalo.
     

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