Bleacher Report: Kevin Kolb could be Phins QB in 2011

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  1. Roman529

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    If Ross is stupid enough to let this regime stay, then I can definitely see these morons trade a high draft pick for Kolb to try to get one relevant season in and earn themselves a ****ing extension. I hope we fire them before we see that happen.
     
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    If we are going to go after a current NFL QB I would rather go after a young QB like Kolb, rather than an older QB who is falling apart like we did with Daunte Culpepper who was busted up. Of course we probably could have brought in Drew Brees but I think Brees was either given the brush off, or he didn't like the coaches/FO at the time?

    I would like to go after Cam Newton, but he may be gone before we pick. If Cowher or someone else comes in, they likely are not going to go with Henne and are going to want to hand pick someone else. I could see Henne sticking around as a backup if we traded for Kolb. I just think the Eagles may want more than just a first rounder for Kolb.
     
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    You really cannot justify spending a first round pick on Cam Newton can you?

    :lol:
     
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    AJ Feeley part two? Chad Henne will be our QB on opening day next yaer, like it or not.
     
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    Bleacher report............. :lol:
     
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    wouldn't mind kolb he did show he could play in this league, but we need a well known oc like childress, who runs the same type of offense the eagles run, or even gruden as hc.
     
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    What choice do we have????

    No way Luck drops to us. I also don't see Mallet being there when we pick. Locker is not very good. Some people talk about Stanzi or Pat Devlin in Round Three....neither of them excite me. Cam Newton is a Heisman Trophy winner and if we risked a first day pick on Pat White, don't you think Cam Newton has a lot more potential than Pat White. He is 6'6" and very strong, good speed, accurate arm. I think it is either Cam Newton or Kolb. I don't want Carson Palmer or McNabb. I could maybe live with Orton of the Broncos but he would probably be my third or fourth choice. We have to figure out who our franchise QB is going to be and get it right.

    *I know Bleacher Report speculates a great deal and its not like McShay/Kiper etc., but they also have had Philly journalists talking about moving Kolb, and Miami is one of the likely destinations.
     
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    kolb looked good at times and shaky at other times. looked alot like henne from what i saw no thank you. trade for their other qb.
     
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    Bro, a knife isn't at our throat forcing us to draft a QB in the first round.

    This is how people end up unhappy in everyday normal life. People "settle" instead of making a real investment into their future. And that's how people end up buried under mounds of debt.

    Same principles apply here in the NFL. We can't just draft the scraps we're left with just because we need it. That's not the answer. Now we're REALLY throwing rock hard turds at the wall hoping it will stick. We invested into Chad Henne because he was a bargain and he was there. It's not what we really wanted. It's not even close to what we needed. And Cam Newton is no different.

    I'm a BIG Cam Newton fan. I've enjoyed watching him this season. But he's not NFL material. He has made poor life decisions and those are judgment calls. Trust me, that carries over to the field of play. I can't trust my multi-million dollar franchise in the hands of a guy who has displayed poor judgment off the field. Things like that have come back to bite teams in the *** more often than not. Cam Newton is a SUPERSTAR. He has been the biggest, most athletic, and easily the best player at every single level he has ever played on. And when you're that kind of player, you never have to work for it because you're so dominate. So I wonder about your work ethic because we ALL know that Cam Newton will not walk onto an NFL field and dominate the way he does in college. Not happening. JaMarcus Russell was another guy who was just bigger, stronger and faster than everyone else. JaMarcus always had his work ethic called into question. I'm not saying Cam Newton does or will have a poor work ethic, but it is a question that I would want to know the answer to before drafting him even in the 7th round.

    Cam Newton is a VERY high risk, medium reward guy. He's not even a high reward guy because guys with his ability at QB usually end up as average QB's in the league. Mike Vick is the exception. Mike Vick falls into the 1% category. Mike Vick is elite. And Mike Vick was viewed as a risky draft pick.

    It is not worth it for us to wager everything on the back of Cam Newton.
     
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    Kolb will be a pretty good QB when he gets the chance to start.

    In fact, when the Falcons keep Vick and let Kolb go, I think they'll be feeling pretty stupid once Vick goes back to his old ways.
     
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    Assuming he declares, trade up and get Luck....we arent that far off people. Trade our 1 and 3 this year and our 1 next year and get our QB! Go hard after Mankins and tag Soliai if we cant extend him, and resign Ricky. Along with Luck, draft a C, speed back, and playmaking TE.
     
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    Spotty Eagles performance, 2nd round pick coming from Houston, a pass-happy spread offense = John Beck Part 2
     
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    AJ Feeley part II
     
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    The John Beck and AJ Feeley comparisons are a little harsh. Kolb was the Eagles franchise QB and only due to injury did Vick 2.0 get a chance to start. I wouldn't trade the house for Kolb but he's not AJ Feeley.
     
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    I think Kolb is legit. I would for just the #1 even though I am tired of giving up compensation for QB's
     
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    That means ****. Henne was our "franchise QB" until he maybe wasn't. David Carr was Houston's "franchise QB" and so forth and so on. A good showing and a small sampling of games after coming out of a spread college offense which rarely translates to the pros, is too questionable a sampling to relinquish a first, or maybe even a second for.
     
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    kolbs definitely a cooler choice then mcnabb or palmer and could be a franchise guy. hes a better version of henne but still not great imo. i have to ask though, whats the problem with locker? guy was gonna be the #1 overall draft pick last year. #1. h stayed in college showed commitment though some questioned it having to do with baseball and not dedicated to football enough. i think they guy plays with a lot of enthusiasm. maybe hes not 6'6 240 but he is like 6'2 220, hes hard to bring down. so he had a sloppy year? doesnt change what hes done in his past. in a QB strong draft class hes still being considered a 1st round pick maybe top 20. please explain why we dont want him
     
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    Unless Kolb came complete with a WCO guru. He be a waste.
     
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    Should be Parent's Basement Report.
     
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    I didn't say trade a first, second or anything for him. I'm just saying he hasn't earned the amount of crap some guys are giving him.
     
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    And when Luck has nearly the same stats as Henne after 25 games, like Ryan, Manning, and Eli did, what will this board be like? Hell, Henne cost us a 2nd rounder and you're suggesting we spend two 1st and a 3rd?

    I say we do the smart thing. Let Henne have next season. Get a QB to compete with Henne through FA...Kolb would be great or if a good QB falls to us in the 1st round grab him. Or spend our first on a speedy RB.
     
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    Exactly. Kolb is legit and I've said many times that the Eagles are going to be sorry they ever let him go. Vick is having a great stretch, it will end though and I'm betting sooner than later.
     
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    This next draft will not be a "QB strong class".
     
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    Get kolb let them compete,best qb wins . Draft Ingram, need to boost the running game . Fix o line , get new OC.
     
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    Wow, you need to get back to 2010. May have just been a slip, but they are both Eagles, not Falcons. You could insert Schaub for Kevin Kolb and this would be a post from 2006.

    ---------- Post added at 09:08 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:07 AM ----------

    Would you consider this years 1st rounder "the house" b/c that is what it will take to get Kolb.
     
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    Whoops. Both are sh!tbird teams. lol
     
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    You will not get Kevin Kolb and Ingram. It will take a 1st to get Kolb off the Eagles roster. Plain and simple. You have to weigh whether you want Kolb and NO 1st round pick OR one of the older FA's and a 1st round pick. That's the give and take here guys.

    If you are keeping Henne, I see no reason why you would give up a 1st round pick in a trade to get Kolb. There will be no competition, Kolb will be starting. If you draft a QB in the 1st round, you can keep Henne and start him until your rookie is ready to go. If you sign a FA, then you keep Henne and let them compete, and you still have a 1st rounder to play with.

    As you can tell, at this point I'm for signing one of the older QB's or taking a QB in the 1st round (if it's the guy they want and believe in). Unless you can get good value for Henne (2nd or 3rd?), let the Eagles keep Kolb b/c nobody else will be giving up a 1st rounder for him.
     
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    I agree with the AJ Feeley part two, but I cannot see how Chad Henne starts next season and if he does then this team does not care at all about winning.
     
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    Ross said Henne was going to be better than Dan Marino. So I think he sticks with Chad..Lol


    I think I would rather have Henne over Kolb anyway. Kolb is injury prone and has most of the same issues as Chad.
     
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    A lot of stupid Falcons fans were saying the same thing this time last year about Ryan. ;)
     
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    Then they have Orton going to the Vikings. **** that noise! I would much rather have neckbeard than Kolb.
     
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    wow another chad henne
     
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    This is garbage. He's a much better passer than Vince Young or Vick in college with similar running ability and a much bigger frame. Jamarcus Russel was a fat clown that didnt have anywhere near the athleticism that Cam has.
     
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    He is gonna be the 2nd QB taken....
     
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    Kevin Kolb sucks. I will be so pissed if this happens.
     
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