Cam Newton?

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  1. MIA 23 DOLFAN

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    What's the consensus? Do yall want him in Miami... or do you think he's just a big Pat White, that'll end up playing baseball or stealing computers and selling them on ebay?
     
  2. zach8111

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    im not sure yet...
     
  3. datruth55

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    Don't want him.
     
  4. Finfanforever

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    I'll pass for Blaine Gabbert
     
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    id take blaine over him too but i dont know if blaine will be there as i see him as first QB taken
     
  6. dbogs

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    pass on newton

    scoop lamichael james next year
     
  7. NYPhinzFan

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    Agreed
     
  8. Gonzo

    Gonzo Widerstand Administrator Finheaven VIP

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    Honestly, I'd take any one of them. If they can't hack it, we'll be in position to draft a damn near sure thing the next year.

    And no, I don't have a problem with using back to back first round picks on a QB, because no other position matters until we fix it.
     
  9. MetalKev

    MetalKev Dan THE MAN Marino

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    gabbert or mallett
     
  10. MIA 23 DOLFAN

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    I think Mallet plays a lot like Henne
     
  11. tical

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    Man, in miami we've forgot what a quick explosive back looks like. Lamichael James wow.
     
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    I will be honest. While he will need time to learn the NFL game, I think he is a stud- with the IT factor.
     
  13. Big Daddy 13

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    Yes. He's one of a few QBs I'd like here. If this Front Office wiffs on VY, Orton or Kolb, then draft Newton. We need to see somebody compete with Henne next year.
     
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    He's small as heck but he hits the hole at full speed doesn't he? No hesitation, no dancing.
     
  15. dbogs

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    id really like to see him break a big one tonight
     
  16. zach8111

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    ya, will be fun to watch in the nfl too IMO
     
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    James is too small.
     
  18. rev kev

    rev kev THE DEFLATOR

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    I thought this was a Newton thread - he is rusty that might cause him to fall to us what then? 5-6 weeks without live game action is a good thing for us if we are even serious
     
  19. Boy From School

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    Funny comment considering some of the most dangerous backs in the NFL.
     
  21. zach8111

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    there are MANY players who are too small to play in the nfl and are very successful becasue they have the rare talent... he might be someone. not sure if he'd be a feature back but definately would succeed in the right system
     
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    Cam Newton has IT.We have not had IT in a long time.We need IT
     
  23. Dolphinator530

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    You are right, he will need polish but what guy coming from college to the NFL doesnt. he is bigger faster and stronger and has a better arm than Colt McCoy, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better athlete and QB in every facet than Tebow, better passer/mechanics/footwork then VY plus like 100000000 times smarter and more mature.

    Honestly i think he is more Big Ben than McCoy, Tebow, VY or any guy like that. he just does not go down will make a few throws that make you go WHAT THE $^&# but will make 3 or 4 a game that make you go HOLY ****. Tebow McCoy and Young all had much better talent than Newton, Other then Dyer he really has no NFL talent at the skill positions while the others were surrounded by it.

    I say YES to Newton
     
  24. Roonnette

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    What if he loses the game?
     
  25. BGtoKNfor6

    BGtoKNfor6 Where is the reset button?

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    Sure and grab Cowher too so he can have another Kordell Stewart. No to Newton. Get a drop back, pocket, cerebral qb.
     
  26. BGtoKNfor6

    BGtoKNfor6 Where is the reset button?

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    Then he will automatically suck and nobody will want him on finheaven. Finheaven is very knee-jerk when it comes to players. Then someone will say we should try to get Lynch from seattle because of that run against the Saints...
     
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    I dont want Newton, i would definetly rather trade down and get a late first/early second QB and RB, the only way i wouldnt trade down at this point is if we can get Gabbert or maybe Locker
     
  28. phinman1

    phinman1 Seriously now

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    I'd be stoked if we got Newton. What's not to like? We all know he has great size and running ability, but the guy also stands tall in the pocket, has great feet and can throw the ball accurately.

    Isn't he the highest rated passer in college? The kid has been clutch all year and has shown real leadership abilities as well.

    Only problem is he will be a top 10 pick and we'll have to move up to get him.
     
  29. ChambersWI

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    it's really tough to judge him because some of these completions are a result of Malzahn's offense. The last TD was a good throw by Cam, but his INT was poor judgement.

    I just dunno yet.
     
  30. Ricky4Life

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    Gabbert for me if we are taking a first round qb.
     
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    James is going back to Oregon!
     
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    I would be extremely leery about drafting a guy that has one prolific season. I mean realistically from what I can tell he has one season, PERIOD. I hope we are more willing to grab a guy with a solid collegiate history and not on the basis of one year, regardless of how good it is. I don't follow college all that much but how good is auburn as a TEAM. Something tells me that it isn't all Newton.

    The newton pick sounds like another typical Finheaven infatuation. The guy should stay in school and get another year under his belt. If he continues to progress and put up another season like this year and shows more/continued maturity/leadership as a person then he may be considered.
     
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    Funny comment that he is limping around right now. Solid 19 yards at the half.
     
  34. zach8111

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    Auburn was very average before he got there
     
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    i am lmao at anyone who thinks cam newton doesn't warrant top 10 talent...i've never seen such accuracy with the ball despite questionable footwork...can you imagine if you cleaned up that footwork??? the balls already on point...got an absolute howlitzer for an arm...flick of the wrist and the balls on fire

    the 30 yard td where he threw a jump pass that ball placement doesn't get any better and that sucker was 30 yards in the air off the hop...dodged the edge rusher and flicked the ball with ease

    and when his footwork is right the throwing motion and ball looks pretty dang good to me...add in the legs element and this kids talent is crazy

    even the pick he threw i thought the wr screwed him on the route...if we didn't have sparano and that band of clowns running this offense i think that talent is something that can work in the nfl but you need an oc and offensive mindset that fits his skill set...you plan on running pa and making him turn his back to the field all the time and then make quick reads you're playing with fire...still the ball placement and the arm are rediculous

    guy makes daunte culpepper look small...huge kid...in great shape...great demeanor to boot...i've yet to see him look frazzled on the field all year
     
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    I'd love to have him, he's a healthy Daunte Culpepper in the making!!
     
  37. zach8111

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    281 attempts 1682 yards 21 TD going into the season, dont just judge one game

    ---------- Post added at 10:33 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:32 PM ----------

    if thats the case, NOOOOO! culpepper was a product of moss.... he would have been nothing without him
     
  38. BGtoKNfor6

    BGtoKNfor6 Where is the reset button?

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    I wouldn't call top 15 from 2004-2008 plus an 8-5 season last year with a win in last years Outback bowl to be "very average".
     
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    Considering James is heading back to school, I am not going to worry about him at this point.

    Lets worry about speed on the perimeter and a TE that can down the hash.

    Oh yeah, QB and an interior O-line fix up.

    (a RB too) LOL.

    The list ain't too long...

    (Sign Soliai too)
     
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    don't worry guys..someons gonna fall in love with that cam newton package and come up into the top 10 to get him...book it
     
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    8-5 in college is pretty average if you think about it... might not be as average in the SEC but still average. But to not give Newton most of the credit has not been watching them in recent years
     
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    Exactly right. I like Newton. If he passes the questions where we don't think he's got Vince Young maturity issues, I'd love to have him. I'm sure that will shake out in interviews as we head toward the draft. To your point that he's successful because of the offense, nothing says the team that drafts him can't implement an offense that works to his strengths. If we draft him to be strictly a drop back passer then he will likely fail. If we draft him and use his elite athletic ability then we just might have something special. I live for the day to see a Miami QB escape pressure and turn nothing into a big play. He'll take some hits ala Vick, but he's got about 40-50 more lbs of size to take them.
     
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    for a team thats in dire need of landing a difference making qb someone tell me how on this earth you wouldn't invest a top 20 pick in that kid newton...for real...i'm all ears

    lets assume that we have an oc an mindset that actually knew how to do something other than 3 yards and a cloud of dust...
     
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    Newton is JaMarcus Russell Part 2
     
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    that would be KEY if we drafted him... having an OC that didnt force a style on him but built one around him
     
  46. BGtoKNfor6

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    Well for one thing, at least a guy like Newton should be able to escape when turnstyle Vernon Carey blows another block. So year, maybe worth investing after all...
     
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    no he isnt.... russells problem was his work ethic, newton has a very good one... russell was very lazy and took his talents for granted... never studied the game let his weight get out of control.. from what i hear, newton is a standup guy and works hard in the film room and on the practice field
     
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    Never seen a qb win a superbowl with his legs. I seen them win with thier passing ability and the ability to read defences.
     
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    How can you compare the two? What about there games is at all similar? Russell was all arm and no work ethic. Accuracy was always questionable. Newton has been extremely accurate and is light years of a better athlete. I don't have the info to judge his work ethic and maturity, but if he passes those tests in the pre-draft workouts and interviews, I'd be thrilled to get this guy.
     
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    I've said it before and ill say it again, the only similarities between the two are their height and skin color.
     

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