Casserly believes Fins can reacquire the picks from the Marshall trade

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  1. FinAtic8480

    FinAtic8480 A True Fan

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    If Jerry trades up with us, it'll be for Earl Thomas. They've been thinking of trading up for one of the safeties and they realize it's going to cost.
     
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    That could actually be the Dolphins' reasoning behind fawning after Earl so much.
     
  4. #1dolphinsfan

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    I hope we can trade down
     
  5. Mr. Magoo

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    Yeah, you'd be looking to get their one, their two and next year's one.

    That would be a lot to give up. But then again, this is Jerry Jones, he believes his team is one or two players away, and Earl Thomas is a Texas kid.

    I'd be jumping through hoops if we swung that trade.
     
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    i honestly see us trading down and drafting or hoping to draft i should say brandon graham,

    i see trade partners that could be are the texans(spiller),cowboys(dez bryant)
    eagels and bengals are sitting with a couple 2nd and 3rd rounders who may want to move up.
     
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    I would like for us to trade down and getting more picks.
     
  8. finforlife

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    I'm all for trading down, I just worry who might be of interest to us at 27. I don't want to sacrifice the chance to get one of the better pash rushers (Graham, Morgan) or safeties (Thomas) just to get an extra pick.

    Jerry Hughes is borderline whether he'll be there or not, same with Sergio Kindle (who I'm not sure I want anyway) and I have no use for Taylor Mays with the 27th pick.

    Maybe we would change directions all together and look for an offensive lineman (Anthony Davis) or a tight end (Gresham, Gronkowski).

    Trading down sounds great, but let's not trade ourselves out of getting one of the elite players.
     
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    the steelers might try to trade up for dez bryant now that they traded holmes, but i doubt it.
     
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    The Steelers are probably going to have the 49ers 1st pick in this years draft. Guess why???
     
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    I am hoping for a trade down. I really don't want to pick at 12.
     
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    The draft is not an excat science. Drafting high doesn't mean you're getting an elite player. The bottom line...the more picks you can get, the better you're chance of landing great players. Brandon Marshall was selected in the 4th round.
     
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    They could then justify selecting T.Cody at 27, but I really doubt they want to trade back that much. I bet they don't trade back at 1 time further then 20, Kindle will be the pick!
     
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    I could see Everson Griffen being there in the mid- to late- 20's range if we traded down.
     
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    I was thinking the exact same thing. However, you have to wonder what we do if Berry falls to us. It changes how you have to look at the safety situation to me. It may also have teams willing to give up more to get him than they would for Earl Thomas.
     
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    i agree .. i wouldn't draft any safety not named Eric Berry in the first round.. its a smoke screen...
     
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    I would take everson griffen if he lasts if we decided to trade down. I would rather trade down to acquire picks than trade ronnie brown
     
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    Dallas and Philly, two division rivals are now rumored to be interested in trading up. Could help increase the value Miami could get for the 12th pick. :up:
     
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    Hey Ck,
    You think maybe they are targeting Nate Allen?
    Trade back and get a 2nd rd pick and choose Allen with it? Is this far fetched?
     
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    I'm sure Bill would love to trade down. I'm equally certain Saban was desperate to get out of that #2 pick. But you still need a partner. One of the hot names needs to fall (Bryant, Spiller, Thomas) and Miami needs to make a better deal than what Jacksonville offers. I think they'll struggle to get fair value as determined by the old JJ draft calculator.

    But if they can get a low first and second I'd be all for it. The odds of getting a quality player from those two picks is far higher than the single pick @12.
     
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    Really the Pats are in the best position to trade up with all those 2nds. Ireland made a comment in his draft press release that it would take a lot to trade up in the division with the phins and I was wondering about that then. The Pats picks around 22nd in the 1st round and IMO the talent really starts falling off after that pretty quick. But if you could get their first rounder and at least their 2nd 2nd rounder it would be a trade worth doing. If all the LB are gone which is what I feel they are targeting then the TE from Oklahoma or possibly Thomas could be there and would be worth taking a chance on. The Pat have to feel like they are close and Moss is slowing down so a Spiller or Bryantt might be the bait for them.
     
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    That's what I was going to post. Marshall is a top-3 WR, period.
     
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    This is funny. Even though we won't draft him, Dolphins fans should still root for Dez to fall to pick 12 just for the trade down scenarios (especially with Dallas).
     
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    yeah, Dez falls to us, phone starts ringing off hook. you might have three phone workin at once. Billy P is finally in the drivers seat on this one should it fall our way.

    I dont like being behind NE though. They would snag Graham if there.
     
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    If Berry is still there, it'd take the Herschel Walker trade to send him off.
     
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    If Earl Thomas is there at 12..
    I want to DRAFT HIM... not trade down
     

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