Charles Harris progress

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  1. Michael Scott

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    He's going to be an absolute monster. I have no doubts. This will actually be a damn good draft class when McMillan gets back next year.
     
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    Wow, that bend off the edge and speed. He's getting better weekly.
     
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    I thought Finheaven already called this one an official bust? Confused.
     
  4. J. David Wannyheimer

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    A handful of posters declaring a guy a bust after three games doesn't qualify as Finheaven collective hivemind, you know.
     
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    A "handful" of posters declared that he was a bust before the season even started..."waste of a draft pick" if i recall correctly
     
  6. Phinatic8u

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    That sack was an elite player sack.

    He's going to be so damn special.
     
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  7. J. David Wannyheimer

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    Yeah, but all I'm saying is that dumping the entire board's opinion in with those people is ridiculous.
     
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    Maybe people thought he would be bad or for certain that him and tank were risky picks that seem to be paying off. I don't think anybody thought he didn't have potential, I still don't think he was worth all we gave up for him, teams aren't built on one guy who was a risk in the first place even if he is paying off now. Would still much rather have had tj watt/multiple picks.
     
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    What are you talking about? We didn’t trade up to draft Harris. I think you are confusing him for JORDAN.
     
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    I was going to say the same thing. We didn't trade at all to draft Harris

    Ozzy rules!!
     
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    This is the same group that already wants to fire the coach and draft/bench Tunsil.
     
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    He does have a sack after 4 games.......
     
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    We were offered multiple picks to trade down for that spot.
     
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    There is a large contingent that posts here that believe the Dolphins are idiots and are cursed and cannot draft because the FO is comprised of monkeys that have thumbs stuck in their asses. An while yes the Dolphins have had 1st round busts don't consider that every other team has the same amount of 1st round busts and that the odds are just as good that for every 1st round HOF'er there is a equal 5th Round HOF'er and no team drafts perfectly, yes some teams get on a streak and produce a foundation for years (the Dolphins had 3 historic draft runs in their history, not all producing SB's but plenty post season and SB appearances) and it seems that some teams are miserable wretches, if you look at the statistics you see everyone falls in the bell curve eventually and make appearances at both the good bad spectrums equally. So for every Yatil Green there will be a Dan Marino and sometimes just a Charles Harris a guy who could be slow starter and get to be All Pro or be an average joe who has a decent career and calls it a day. have a hot take on draft day just makes you look dumb later
     
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    What I like is the fact he seems to be making progress on every game. Granted, the whole defense played great today but last week he was closed and this week had got a sack plus the batted ball and two hits on the QB. I don't know how good he will be but he's starting to give us something

    Ozzy rules!!
     
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    Harris is showing some traits and skills that will translate to long term success in the NFL. It would be tremendous if his progress continues along with our other D rooks.... Not to get ahead of myself, but I hope we're looking back and saying that last years draft of Harris, McMillian, Tankersly, Godchaux and Vincent were the core for a championship caliber d
     
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    He's got a ways to go. There was one play where he was basically thrown out of the play entirely by Lewan...like a child. The question will be can he maintain his current skill set with 15/20 more pounds on his frame. Remember he didn't test very fast to begin with at the combine and if putting on more weight slows him down even more then I think that hurts him as a 3 down player.
     
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    As crazy as it sounds, I wouldn't even worry about him as a "3 down" player. He was drafted in the first round for his pass rushing tools and they have been on display two weeks in a row.

    He got a lot of snaps today as the #4 DE.
     
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    He has one sack so far, against the back up left tackle. It was a nice play and awesome bend- but will see how the rest of year goes.

    It was at an important point in the game so that really helped.
     
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    He's been getting a lot of snaps. He played 35 snaps last week...on running downs too. Dolphins need him to be able to play both run and pass or teams will just run the ball to his side every time he comes in the game.
     
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    He definitely got sucked in and couldn't get off a block or didn't have quick recognition on running plays more than a few times this year.

    I just remember saying similar things about #91 when he first got here and his work ethic allowed him to become a 3 down player and a potential HOF when its all said and done.

    I guess what I'm saying is that aspect of the game is more teachable but it is great to see him flashing those high end pass rush tools at such a young point in his career.
     
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    To your point, there was a play where Harris over ran into the backfield going for the QB and the running back ran right past him to the inside for a 1st down play of about 9-10 yards. Fortunately the play was called back because of a penalty. It was just before Lewan went out. This is the part about Harris that he’ll need to clean up on and improve. During the pre season he was unable to disengage O-linemen and he’s begun to show signs of improvement there. I hope he continues his outstanding play of late. Miami needs him.
     
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    Harris is the least of our probs right now - give him time - the Wake Post was all too true - but the cheesy win is costing us a great pick to trade down or take a great player
     
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    Don't anyone try and tell me that kid can't bend ever again. He got 45 degree angle side ways on that sack

    Keep it up kid.
     
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    More sacks than Jordan Willis :D
     
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    People are really too quick to label a player a bust after 2 games
     
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    He looked good today and appears to be getting better along with the rest of the defense. They looked a lot more physical today. It was definitely more exciting to watch the defense today than offense. Hopefully he puts Ryan on his *** next week.
     
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    Also saw him get by Lewan with ease multiple times before he got injured.
     
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    I wouldn't, because I don't think TJ will ever become the player Harris has a very good chance of becoming.

    Multiple picks of players that will be solid, or one pick of a guy that will eventually be special? Give me the player with possible premium abilities.
     
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    I agree. Watt is a nice player, but he will hit his ceiling quickly. Harris on the other hand has elite pass rusher potential. Check the price tag on those in free agency; it's an absolute premium in this league right now.

    You can't doubt his skill set and we're starting to see every bit the relentless attacker. His progression from preseason to now has been very promising.

    He's the player on this team that I'm most excited about right now, followed by Howard, Tankersely, and Godchaux. I also still believe McMillan will be a ten year starter.
     
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    Harris needs to get bigger and stronger but will it affect his speed and quickness? I thought there was a chance he could be an OLB and not a DE for us when he was drafted.
     
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    We've gone from him being a bust to him being the next Wake after one sack.
     
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    Pretty sure that couldn't have happened since Lewan got injured early on the second Titans drive and Branch started the game and the Titans went 3-and-out on their first possession.
     
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    Why? He should work on his strengths like Wake & play elite until he is mid 35 years of age.
     
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    I will admit to trashing him after the first two games. He was invisible - on top of an invisible preseason showing. I mentioned last week that he was noticeable and then today he had the big pass bat down and sack - both on 3rd downs I believe. I will be honest - I didn't see it possible that he would be a contributor this year. I like being wrong on this stuff and I hope the kid can keep it up.
     
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    People want 1st rd picks to play like pro bowlers from day one. As if there is no learning curve.
     
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    This is true. Part of the reason for the impatience, I think, is that w contracts being what they are you only get 4 years guaranteed w a rookie. So as a fan you hate hearing this is a redshirt year etc. It's unfair I know. I just think the urgency is there from the fan's perspective because the guy can be gone via FA before you know it.
     
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    Or fans look around and see players like Fournette and TJ watt (btw hasn’t done anything since week 1)and wonder why their 1st rd pick isn’t Doing anything.
     
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    Thank you very much sir. As a fin fan for 40 years, dated back to Woodly years and have yet experienced championship glory, your statement give me glimpse of hope to carry on.
     
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