Charles Harris progress

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  1. Dolph N.Fan

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    Last year we were saying the draft needs to be all defense. It pretty much was and it’s paying dividends as the defense has done a 180 compared to last year. Maybe next year’s draft needs to be all offense.
     
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    OL first three rounds, then TE and TE, then best player available.
     
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    We need more balance in the draft. Don't forget that in 3 more years all the guys you mentioned will be coming off their rookie contract and chances are we won't be able to afford all of them given the way Tannenbaum handles the cap...if they all progress like we hope. Let's just not put the cart before the horse here on their development.
     
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    he kinda looks like wake but with an extra burst of incredibalism
     
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    Great! I've a few years on you so I can recall the championship years but they seem, literally, a lifetime away! A great D would be a cornerstone for a return to the glory years. Hopefully we get to see it soon!
     
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    I'd sneak a front7 defender in the top 3...maybe FS in the draft depending on how McDonald looks...
     
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    For the guys like myself who couldn't see the game...

     
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    TJ is not a FS and if he is put there he will be a fail..
     
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    Yeah, we'll see. As much as I don't like it, at least last year we were going with "interchangeable" safeties. Not really sure if that was just Joseph. I'd love to see a FS with great range, coverage skills and ball hawking paired with Jones.
     
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    I'm hoping for CB/FS, G, and TE in the first three rounds. Both Tank and Howard have to prove to be legit or there's no way I'm passing on McFadden if we get a chance at him.

    That's assuming Tannehill is going to be 100% without a single inch of any doubt. Otherwise, we've got to go QB in round one.
     
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    I don't get why everyone wants him to gain weight. People were saying the same thing about Jason Taylor and what JT said was "why do I need to get bigger if I'm out there kicking *** and taking names"......maybe he's at his ideal weight? Would I like him to get stronger? Of course but he can get stronger without getting so much bigger. His game is speed and burst so leave him alone and give him some time. BTW, Taylor really never got much bigger on his way to the HOF

    Ozzy rules!!
     
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    With TJ Mc, Jones, Howard, McCain, Tank, and Lippet coming back, secondary is not our biggest need. On the other hand, Pouncy is not dominating anymore and with bad hip, Tunsil has became a question mark, Bushrod, Steen, James and Davis are just bodies, Asiata has been disappointing. I say OL, OL and more OL. BTW, can we resurrect John Sandusky?
     
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    I forgot we passed on Fournette to draft Harris.
     
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    I was just thinking about this yesterday. Our defense could potentially be set for some time to come. Maybe adding a player here or there, but if you look at yesterday's game, the 2nd safety (#29 can't ever remember his name but he's terrible) is the only guy I didn't enjoy watching. It seems like the worries about the DT position have gone away, and the addition of Timmons (when he plays :)), seems to make all the other LB's better, especially Alonzo. One other quick comment about the defense - we "hit" harder yesterday than I've seen in a long, long time. I love how Howard came up and absolutely blasted Murray on that one play at the sidelines. Alonzo had a couple of big hits, as did Timmons. And you can always count on Jones hitting someone every other series. I like the physical movement the D is making - hope it continues because watching the offense, God knows we need it!
     
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    We didn't pass on Fournette...
     
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    I wouldn't say we are set, but we are in a lot better position than most of us thought. Our draft needs to be heavy on offense, particularly the OL, but also TE / young qb. Somewhere in there we still need a true FS, and get more youth into the LB corps
     
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    Yes, not completely set - just a heck of a lot more than I would have thought a few weeks ago. If McMillan turns out solid, that's huge for us. We signed McDonald to an extension, right? With him and Rashad shouldn't we be pretty set at safety?
     
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    Yes we extended TJ, but he's more of a Reshad Jones type than an Earl Thomas... I hope we utilize a big nickel next year. McMillan could/should be a big boost for the LB's, but we need to plan ahead, Timmons is old, Alonso was injury prone, Rey is old, everything after that is a crapshoot.
     
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    It would be very difficult to pass on James and/or Fitzpatrick in the draft because we have two starting caliber strong safeties

    Hoping and praying T.J. shows some range we simply didn't see in STL/LA. Didn't he play some FS at USC?
     
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    After watching Rambo play last year, I think I'm going to like anything they stick back there! But yeah I get what you're saying, we need the other kind of safety eventually.
     
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    hes learning run D

     
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    Nobody should be watching Harris lately and think, what a waste, why is he even on the team. He's coming along nicely.
     
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    ^^My thoughts exactly
     
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    that's a screen call the left tackle is gonna let him go by...still it's explosive and impressive...kid looks good...only getting better

    he's shown the bull rush the outside shoulder dip and the spin...and all look solid...this is one kid who I totally believe his hard work is paying off
     
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    Why is the Left Tackle running after him and not following the RB or his assignment on that play?
     
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    cause you cant just release the edge to the qb without letting the back get into position post snap...in this case however Mathews is worried about harris getting to the qb period cause he's beaten early on the spin...thus he stays with it longer...

    I have no doubts that Mathews would have played that better had it not been a screen call and he knew he was gonna have to maintain a block...still it's an explosive play by the edge player harris...and that spin is gonna do work in time
     
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    Harris definitely affected the play. That needed another second to develop. Harris rushed the throw and blockers weren't quite in place
     
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    Yeah, you can't say Harris flat out beat him, because in this case Mathews wants to be beat. What he didn't want though was Harris to spin to the inside - he couldn't block down on him there because that's where the RB was going. Then, because Harris is moving so fast, he tries to get a hand on him so he won't get to Matty before the RB gets open. All in all, great hustle by the rookie - very close to blowing that play up on his own.
     
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    Dwight Freeney made a career out of being quick enough around the edge to set up a sick spin move. If Harris can be even close to the player Freeney was I'll be happy.
     
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    I'd still love to see Miami get a top defensive player in round one and then concentrate on the offensive line and tight end the rest of the way. But I wouldn't be too upset if the draft was almost exclusively offense. That side of the ball was supposed to be the strength of the team, but obviously it hasn't panned out that way.

    If the team lets Pouncey go (big possibility) that makes offensive line even more important in the draft.
     
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    a first round free safety/tight end would be gravy
     
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    Well said
     
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    I don't see FS happening with McDonald's offseason deal.
     
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    This goes back to the question of how the safeties will be used. I dont know much about McDonald, but I thought he was more the classic SS type. Reshad Jones is most effective near the LoS...SS type of stuff. Will we stay with "interchangeable safeties" or have a more FS/SS break in the roles? Id personally love to see a classic FS with high range, good coverage and ball skills paired up with Jones. We'll see...
     
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    I’m so with you on this... I think a lot of us are.. a roaming FS is the main piece the D needs.. McDonald might be okay there for awhile, but I’d rather use him like Deone buccanon
     
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    they need to go to more package run once McDonald comes back...allens a better middle of the field option...
     
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    Yup...and Id love to see an upgrade to Allen there next year...
     
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    I don't either...I think you are looking at tight end flex and in line and guard top 2 priorities outside shot at nickel corner

    we got $70 plus mil in safety over the next 4 years...don't see it
     
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    that's probably where I'd see it...another cheap veteran on another one year pact unless they just sign allen again
     
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    He isn't a better middle of field option than Reshard Jones tho. And that's what I anticipate happening when McDonald is worked in. Jones will be manning center field, and McDonald will be the strong. Those are your "interchangeable safeties"

    I do wish we were able to nab a real range safety like Marcus Maye in the draft. He's looking the part with the Jets
     

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