Charles Woodson anyone?

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  1. SkapePhin

    SkapePhin Rump Shaker Finheaven VIP Donator

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    Apparently Green Bay is releasing Woodson. Does he have anything left in the tank? Does he have a relationship with Philbin?
     
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    Just saw this on TV I was surprised, he was due like 9 mil thou, cap causality.. Would be curious to see what some of you thought w him and pos. jarius Byrd avail at safety would u pull the trigger. I pro go Byrd younger better contract prob and u can grow w him. Woodsmen I see signing like reed on a contender looking for a 1-2 year push at bowl
     
  3. dunbar1352

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    I could see for maybe a year to maybe help mentor smith or any rookie cb we may draft. I think if we could acquire Jennings and\or Finley we would have a shot at getting him. In my honest opinion tho I think he will retire
     
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    The names a ail this off season are crazy, but lets not pull an eagles or redskins 1,2, maybe 3 fa then focus on cont to draft young talent
     
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    I agree I do think we will resign smith and at least get jennings tho. How the rest turns out I'm excited to see

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    I could see for maybe a year to maybe help mentor smith or any rookie cb we may draft. I think if we could acquire Jennings and\or Finley we would have a shot at getting him. In my honest opinion tho I think he will retire
     
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    I'd be fine with a relatively cheap offer. Old *** Woodson is still light years better than Sean "alligator arms" Smith.
     
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    36 years old..will turn 37 this October
    moved to safety last season because his coverage skills have declined
    was due 9 million in 2013...no way is he worth that kind of money



    "They're getting ready to release him. It's part of the business," agent Carl Poston said. "I just talked to him. He sounds like he has a lot of football left.
    "He'd like to go play for a contender, win another Super Bowl."

    Don't see him being a part of this teams future
     
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    Woodson is a safety now, not a corner.
     
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    So because he was moved to safety he's no longer allowed to play corner?

    We're not the Packers, far from it. We could not be worse off at corner right now. A elderly, one legged Charles Woodson would still start at corner on this team.

    Honestly, I have no idea. But for the right price what does it hurt? I'm sure this will make him try all the more harder and he's still got skills.
     
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    I can guarantee even if we signed him he wouldn't play safety.
     
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    I would 100% be down for this.

    Argument as a Safety: Get rid of Clemons, sign Woodson to safety for 2 years, draft a guy this year and develop him under Woodson. BAM!

    Argument as a CB: Dont need one, go get him.
     
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    If I'm signing a S, it's Ed Reed.
     
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    He wants to go to a contender... In other words, he's not coming here
     
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    Seriously? The same Packers team that couldn't stop any offense in the NFL? That Packers defense was pathetic on so many levels this past year. It made MIA's defense look superior.

    You people and this 'mentoring' crap. Old *** players with declining play are being released for a reason. They just aren't what they were, regardless of what you try to project on them. The NFL execs from franchises like GB and BALT are letting some of these players walk, because its time to get younger and faster. Something I wish some here would understand. Woodson, is a shell of his former self. His play at CB was suspect a year ago, and terrible at S this year.

    As for the poster that named Byrd...now there you go. Someone who is coming into his prime, versus one who is on his last leg. Common sense? Just reality, IMO.
     
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    I think Woodson has had a great career, but I don't think he has much left in the tank...same with Ed Reed. I think Woodson would make a nice defensive back's coach, but that is probably the only job I would want to see him have with the Phins.
     
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    Where in any part of my post did I mention mentoring? Not once. When did I say our defense wasn't superior? Again not once.

    Fact:Charles Woodson as a "shell of his former self" is still superior than Sean Smith, it's not even debatable.

    Lastly, As far as Baltimore is concerned they're certainly not letting players go to get "younger". The need to clear cap space for their franchise QB. Getting younger has nothing to do with it. They would be more than happy with resigning Ed Reed, they just can not afford it at this time.

    P.s.

    Byrd is a safety. Most of us were suggesting Woodson be brought in at corner because again, he's far better than what we have.
     
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    No we need young guys. He can teach but he is old. If he was only 5 years younger.
     
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    Teams like GB and BALT are in cap trouble and have key players to resign. All teams wanna get younger and faster, but there is something to be said for a veteran presence on a defense that wants to take the next level into becoming a playoff team.

    Charles Woodson can help in that regard, even if it's for one season.
     
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    at a discount? Sure why not, I'd even be happy with realistic incentives. As long as he's an upgrade we wouldn't have much to lose
     
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    He wants to play for a winning team, cross Miami off the list.
     
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    Problem with your logic is 1- Jairus Byrd won't be let go, if anything he will be franchised. He's arguably the best safety in the game and 2- Charles Woodson being cut isn't bc Charles Woodson can't play..it's bc he's owed 9 million bucks. It's a business decision, not a football one.

    And i'm sorry hear that not everyone on this board shares your infinite wisdom. Forgive those of us that would like to see a legend finishing his career as a Miami Dolphin, creating turnovers and covering tight ends alongside Reshad Jones.
     
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    Surprised so many people are down with this. Dude is 36, even at a discount I'd rather spend that kinda money elsewhere....
     
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    Wow the names of available guys this year is shocking.

    I can't imagine him wanting to come to Miami - unless he's easily sold on sunny SoFla. He'll go straight to a contender and play utility guy. My initial thoughts are Houston and Denver.
     
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    I wouldnt cross us off yet, with the amount if cap space, and picks we could be a contending team. We didnt have that bad of a record last year 7-9 and a couple of those loses were close.
     
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    Defensive player of the year, Heisman trophy winner, Super Bowl Champion....yeah who would want that on their team?:crazy:
     
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    We have a good young core on defense. We are in prime position to add a couple key vets on D to top off an already stout D. Why not? Swing for the fences.
     
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    Hell yeah, Woodson coming off collarbone injury is 100% better than a 100% healthy Sean Smith. Woodson just has a knack for making plays. I'd sign Woodson and give him Smith's locker in a heart beat.
     
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    As opposed to your infinite wisdom? Everyone here has a opinion. I can go look up some of your doozies, because we all have some.

    My wisdom, is that, teams are letting these older players walk. Now you say its because of money. Which does weight into the equation. But the fact a player like Woodson, helped propel one of the worst defenses in the league the past few years, gives me more ammo than....lets say, someone like you. Who advocates paying a ageing once great, alot of money.

    This is a message board. And when you have to resort to your retorts, you have lost the argument. I have a opinion, just like your 'wisdom' on topics here.
     
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    Sometimes you need experience and age, Charles might not be a bad idea and maybe Philbin has a good relationship with him and could sway him to Miami. Guys our Pass defense is in the bottom 5, we can't be too picky.
     
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    We aren't contenders...
     
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    My opinion is that, for the right price, we could use a veteran or 2 on this defense. Charles Woodson was let go for financial reasons..period. If he was willing to restructure his contract to a cap friendly #, GB would've kept him. On instincts and experience alone he would upgrade free safety for the Dolphins...but given a full offseason to heal, he could do great things for this D. The main reason i'm advocating Charles Woodson or Ed Reed is bc i am not a fan of Chris Clemons, and do not want to see him re-signed. We've had a good, young defense for a couple of years now...i'd like to see it capped off with an experienced vet.

    ---------- Post added at 07:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:33 PM ----------

    I disagree.
     
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    Well he is up in his late thirties and coming off injury. So two negatives against him there.
     
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    Woodson is a zone coverage nickel corner at this stage. IMO Freeney and Woodson are only sub package players at this point to be brought in with the nickel defense.
     
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    Drivel.
     
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    i'M 55 AND i DON'T EVEN LIVE IN THE PAST LIKE THE ABOVE POST
     
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    Too expensive, too old. Chris Clemons may just be 'safe' but Woodson is a liability back there. Signing him would be a very poor move on our part, IMO.

    The Packers had the good fortune of having a football decision and financial decision come together on this one, despite what some people are saying. Let some other desperate team pick him up and let us spend that money on something worthwhile (extending Jones/signing Wallace/resigning Hartline/etc).
     
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    np thanks. his play has definetly declined.
     
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    How exactly did their defense look pathetic and ours superior when they had a better rated d then we did. Someone doesn't know what there talking about
     
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    yea let's try and talk ray Lewis out of retirement while we're at it.

    Heisman trophy winner :lol: , yea I wanted that on my team in 1999. Why underplay the gap between a 32 year old Charles Woodson, and one that is 36? You didn't make one argument as to why it would be a good allocation of our money this off season. He is NOT the player he once was, he is playing safety which is a position we happen to be quite capable at. Would we have him play corner? His speed and quickness is deteriorating which is why he was put back there in the first place.

    Get out of here with this heisman talk.
     
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    Woodson isn't a cb anymore for a reason, and he plays the same position as Reshad Jones.

    ---------- Post added at 01:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:34 PM ----------

    Where were they ranked last year?
     
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    I'm 30 and I don't even write in all caps like the above post.

    That's just EWWWWWWWW, and rather tacky!

    Had you been paying attention you would have noticed my earlier post when I suggested a case can be made for a veteran presence on our defense that can show the young guys who have played ok but may need someone with experience in winning that can get the group to take the next step into being a playoff caliber team.

    Charles Woodson's resume and credentials, granted a couple years removed from his most recent success still is better than anything we have, for the exception of Rashad Jones. That is not even debatable! He can bring much needed leadership and IMO, can alternate between CB, nickel DB, and FS. He might not be as fast as he used to be, however, he does have a knack for getting turnovers and eyeing the football when it's in the air which is something our lousy corners have an inability to do.

    Finally, he brings a certain Hall of Fame pedigree which is highly valuable to a team struggling to find an identity. If he didn't have any gas left in the tank he would just retire. He's made plenty of money so you know he's not coming back for that reason. He knows he can ball and if you look at his body type, somewhat slinder, highly versatile athlete with a slim yet tone frame, those in the know just know he can still play. Maybe even to the age of 40! Dude wasn't the Heisman trophy winner for nothing, even though to you that appears to mean nothing. But by all means, go ahead and tag Sean *cough*sucky*cough* Smith and see where that gets you..... oh heck I'll save you the time, it's equivalent to what you'd find in the bottom of a dumpster. Surely you're in favor of that, correct?
     
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    People go by reputation too much, if this guy was still the top player a few are making out then he would retire a packer.

    Sign young talent that will develop together, dont waste money signing an old man that will need replaced by the time the players around him are ready to compete.
     
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    While you do make a case as to why he could have a role on this team, I do not think he's going to take a 1 year deal here especially for the cheap because he has made it CLEAR that he wants to play for the sole purpose of winning another superbowl. I also don't think it would be worth the $9 million he is owed to hope that we didn't just give him a fat, Miami based retirement plan. If a short term, overpriced veteran contract is the only way we can make a push to just make the playoffs? I'd rather wait, spend our money elsewhere, and develop our own young talent. While I do think veterans can have a strong positive impact on younger players in the locker room, that's also why we have DB coaches.....don't need to pay $9 million for that.
     
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    Remember it is okay to agree and disagree as along as it is does respectfully. Another brother's view could help open our eyes and also make us think a little differently.
     
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    Wow! 5 pages and nobody mentioned we should sign him so he doesnt go to New England and beat our ***... Im impressed! This place is getting better...
     
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    Only as a safety and only if the price is right.
     
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    I was bummed when I read he only wanted to play for a contender, but I'm thinking if the fins can land some nice FA WR's and draft well, we just might be a solid contender option. Underdogs
     

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