Chiefs Release OT Marcus Spears

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  1. midwest_phinfan

    midwest_phinfan Starter

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    Does anyone know if this guy is any good? I can say I've never seem him play that I can remember, but KC's line has been among the best the last few years. Maybe he's worth a look.
     
  2. FIN-IN-RI

    FIN-IN-RI A True Fan

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    KC's line has been dominant. Which does make you ponder why are they releasing him?
     
  3. PhinsTD

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    This guy is worth a look for sure. The offensive line simply has to be upgraded from last year and I don't really see that happening so far.

    Is a rookie really expected to be better than Wade was?

    An undrafted FA better than Perry? McKinney better than Ruddy? Wade Smith gonna improve that much in one offseason?

    Too many question marks for me, if Spears can add to this O-line bring his butt in.
     
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    FIN-IN-RI A True Fan

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    im with ya, but why cry? dont be sad..
     
  5. Juice_56

    Juice_56 Well-Known Member

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    the cheifs can afford to release him. they are deep at the o-line positions are recongnize talent for the offensive line very well. theyre still gonna be totally dominant even when theyve lost tait too.
     
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    Bonedoc7777 Perennial All-Pro

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    good guy a must sign
     
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    Disgustipate Perennial All-Pro

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    Oooooo.....VERY interesting move. This would provide QUALITY depth at both tackle spots. Spears apparently was never liked by Vermeil and was caught in a numbers game anyway.
     
  9. FIN-IN-RI

    FIN-IN-RI A True Fan

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    It seems according to Joe Schad that a 3rd WR is the highest priority atm.

    ..I doubt Spears even gets a sniff, but I really hope he does because having a KC Olinemen would be very beneficial to our current OLINE on MANY MANY levels.
     
  10. PhinsFan4life

    PhinsFan4life Rest in Peace Pat Tillman.

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    He was released for a reason. I think we feel pretty comfortable at oline.
     
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    If I am not mistaken, he played for us some 4 years ago. But he sounds good.
     
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    PrOpAiN It is what it is... Finheaven VIP

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    I think your talking about Marcus Spriggs :)
     
  13. PhinsTD

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    Spears was let go because he and Vermeil never saw eye to eye with philosophies.

    Since they now have Welbourne to play RT and they also have Jordan Black and Brett Williams in addition to the newly acquired Chirs Bober there was simply no chance of him making the team at the money he would make.

    Sad that the Chiefs have 5 tackles I'd like to have on this team on their team alone.

    Whitley you are the bane of my existence.
     
  14. ckparrothead

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    KC's line has been dominant but if I'm not mistaken Spears wasn't a starter on their line...its been Roaf, Tait, Wiegmann, Waters, and Shields. They lost John Tait and yet they still cut Marcus Spears that to me raises a red flag or two, as does the fact that he and Vermeil never saw eye to eye because lets face it, Vermeil is very much a players' coach. He's no Bill Parcells. He loves his players as long as they are good people and good football players.

    Still, the KC offense run by Al Saunders is basically identical to the Norv Turner playbook in all the terminology, so Spears could come right in and he'd already know half or more of the blocking schemes, as well as all of the terminology. That was one thing that made Tait so attractive to us.
     
  15. AggieFin21

    AggieFin21 The 12th Man

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    I wouldn't mind bringing him in for a look but at some point we have to say Ok enough, these our are linemen. If we want our O-line to gel then we need to let them work together, get to know each other and their tendances, how each one plays in a certain situation. I dont think that will happen if we just keep on bringing in new players hoping they will be better than what we already have.
     
  16. Nicky Napoleon

    Nicky Napoleon We'll Miss You Nubs

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    I'm all for bringing in one or two more veteran OLmen and with the Ogun tender lowered we have 1.4 million more in cap space. How about Spears and bring back Nails..... It sure would ease my mind!!!
     
  17. BALLS DEEP

    BALLS DEEP Guess Who's Back.

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    I totally agree Aggie. But, we can't pass up someone who can help. I think by the 1st of July we better stick with who we got. Then send them on a cruise together or a mini game of survivor
     
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    That $1.4 million should be reserved either to get Ogun under long-term contract, or to buy a replacement for him in free agency (maybe Joe Johnson has SOMETHING left in the tank who knows...)

    I think Greg Jerman has really surprised some people with the kind of shape he's come back in. I think he could be a servicible guard this year. As for RT...to me its Carey or bust. He had better win that job in training camp when the pads come on...because St Clair is a liability, and McIntosh is out half the year and may have a tough time transitioning to RT from LT halfway through the season.
     
  19. midwest_phinfan

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    Greg Jerman was more than servicable last year at guard. I'm excited to see what kind of a player he is going to be this year. I re-watched the Sunday Night game he started, he has good technique, but where he got hurt was his strength. He got pushed around a little bit on the interior by Arrington and the larger D-linemen, but other than that he has good potential. I'm excited to see how he plays and if he eventually starts for us this year.
     
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    We won't really find out about that strength stuff until the pads come on. As Bua says, you can run around without pads and everyone looks like they can play. You gotta strap those pads on, hit someone, then show everyone you really came to play.
     
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    This guy was drafted by Wanny, wasn´t him. If that´s the case I don´t him on this team
     
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    At 32 years old and only one season as a starter, Spears just doesn't fit into the youth movement of the offensive line. Bad fundamentals at 32? Can you really teach this dog new tricks?
     
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    Sign him PLEASE!
     
  24. miafinsfan

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    We definitely need to sign Spears. Have you heard what they have been saying about our o-line in the camps report?? We can't afford not to at least try to upgrade a little. I guess we'll keep our fingers crossed and see what happens
     
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    from fanball.com:
    OT Spears released
    The News
    The Chiefs have released offensive tackle Marcus Spears, who joined the team as a free agent in 1997. "When we finished up our minicamp and our OTA sessions, we really felt that we had a number of very good young offensive linemen to develop," coach **** Vermeil said in a statement on the Chiefs' website.
    Our View
    Spears was one of the veterans who was supposed to help the team offset the loss of Pro-Bowl tackle John Tait, but apparently the Chiefs aren't concerned about filling that void. More than a few teamsâ€â€are you listening Chargers?â€â€could use Spears' size and experience.
    sounds good to me, as we all know, you can NEVER have enough Oline depth.
     
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    burghPhinFan there are some that call me...Tim

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    sure you're not thinking of Searcy?
     
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    burghPhinFan there are some that call me...Tim

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    and just think of all the Britney jokes we could tell! 'False start, Miami, 10 yard penalty, repeat 2nd down' .....oops he did it again!!!!
     
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    burton87 Favorite Dolphin = Bill Gramatica

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    i wish we could bring back nails

    Jamie Nails -----> :fatman:
     
  29. Spinelord

    Spinelord Miami Dolphins-A New Beginning...Again

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    Or maybe we should REALLY find the best players for each position (John St Clair?)
     
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    Quick!! Name our backup LT.

    Look into Spears.
     
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    Nicky Napoleon We'll Miss You Nubs

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    McIntosh or St.Clair IF Carey wins the starting job.
     
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    Because he has been a backup to the past two year and is getting up there in age.
     
  33. BuffBillsMan90

    BuffBillsMan90 is Clumpalicious!!

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    3 pages on a journeymen O-lineman :rofl:
     
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    7 years with the same team is not a journeyman OL as you say Clump.

    As I pointed out earlier they already have Welbourne, Brett Williams, Jordan Black and Chris Bober as T's they are developing and only of them is going to start for them.

    The other 3 are going to be backups. Do you really think the chiefs would have 4 backup T's?

    Add in the fact that all these guys are younger than Spears and that's why he was let go. He probably wouldn't start here either, but he'd be a darned backup with us.

    Once again though clump, you overrate your own OL and underrated ours. All the while not adding a single thing to the thread.

    How do you manage to balance all that at the same time?
     
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    Dphins4me A True Fan

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    The term "Journeyman" can also be used to describe a player of average talent.
     

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