Compensatory pick projections

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  1. Jimmy James

    Jimmy James You sit on a throne of lies!

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    Unfortunately, Miami gets no picks in this projection which has apparently been done for years by the person doing it and is usually pretty close.

    Even worse, it seems there may be no leftover non-compensatory picks this year. If the league awards fewer than 32 compensatory picks, the teams drafting at the top of the round get non-compensatory picks to fill out the 32.

    http://www.kffl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116792
     
  2. NJFINSFAN1

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    I think the Fins get a late pick for Wade, no?
     
  3. Jimmy James

    Jimmy James You sit on a throne of lies!

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    They don't according to this projection.
     
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    I thought he got a big contract from the Texans?
     
  5. Jimmy James

    Jimmy James You sit on a throne of lies!

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    This may help explain:

    (from the thread I linked to)

    The team must have signed more qualifying free agents than it lost last year.
     
  6. Roman529

    Roman529 Moon Runner / The 3 AM Crew

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    I know this is not directly related to comp picks but does anyone know the deadline for Leinart changing his mind and declaring for the supplemental draft?
    :confused:
     
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    As soon as the USC cheerleaders get board with him! :wink:
     
  8. Jimmy James

    Jimmy James You sit on a throne of lies!

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    I don't know about a deadline, but I think he needs a reason to declare like financial hardship or something like that. From what I heard, that would be a real barrier to him coming out even if injury and a desire to keep his word were not.
     
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    Even though St Claire worked out ok, you can thank Speilstedt for the lack of getting a pick for Wade because we sign three F/A lineman. McIntosh & James were the other two. They balance the comp picks based on what you lost against what you gained in free agency. Our signings out numbered our losses.
     
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    That's the ONLY reason I tune in USC games...the white sweater cheerleaders.
    :lolcry:
     
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    You near Crested Butte? I'm heading out there skiing with the family next Feb!
     
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    Crested Butte is nice...my brother has a condo in Vail....but I have NEVER skiied in my life. :cry: How did Wade end up in Houston>>????
     
  13. Jimmy James

    Jimmy James You sit on a throne of lies!

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    I honestly have to say I can't blame him too much unless McIntosh was the guy who put us over. Even then, I'd argue we had to bring in somebody to compete with Wade Smith for LT. Comp picks are nice, but you have to run the team in the interim...
     
  14. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    That is the GM I want running the team.

    "Hmmm this guy may help the team and improve one of the positions, but if we sign him we will not get a compesatory pick next year. Oh well, it was a nice thought"
     
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    Don't we get something for the loss of Brock Marion, Ricky Williams, and Todd Wade?When was the last time we received any picks? I know Williams didn't sign with another team, but he did retire and was a quality player. Does anyone know when the actual picks are announced?
     
  16. Jimmy James

    Jimmy James You sit on a throne of lies!

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    Unless the league decides to throw us a bone for Ricky, he doesn't count. He retired and didn't sign as a free agent with another team.
     
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    Blame Wade on Rick and Wanny! Live in Colorado and never skied! :hmmm:

    Wade wanted to much bucks!, When the Texans gave him want he wanted I thought we would get a pick, Oh well!
     
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    Man that just sucks. NE gets 2 4ths? & Miami gets notta? It just plain sucks!
     
  19. rafael

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    I seen this guys projections for several years. He's usually pretty close (within a few picks).
     
  20. Agua

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    Why is the precise formula in the secret squirrel category?
     
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    yeah, lets get mad at him for trying to improve the oline instead of staying put to get a comp pick :shakeno:
     
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    Agua Fighting the media, one lie at a time

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    Welcome to Dolphin fandom. :shakeno:
     
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    If they had actually signed someone worth a hoot, I would agree. The three scrubs we signed obviously didnt "improve" anything as they performed worse than the previous years line hands down. If they were going to sign Tait and Woody, by all means, spend away. Instead, in the same old Wanny way, we signed other team's left overs. I would have rather kept the guys we had from the year prior, cuz last years unit flat out stunk in comparison.
     
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    And that's a good reason! :D
     
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  27. Jimmy James

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    The person who spends enough time on this to have created the projections states quite clearly this has *never* happened. When there is no net gain or loss, the NFL sometimes awards a pick. Per the authority linked, even that has only happened 8 times.
     
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    The person making the projections is very accurate in what he says as to how the picks are awarded. However there has been at least one time when a team had a net gain of free agents and still rec'd comp picks, b/c it happened to Miami in 1997. In 1996, we had a net gain of 2. We signed CB Robert Bailey, WR Fred Barnett, QB Mike Buck, C Cal Dixon, WR Charles Jordan, and DE Daniel Stubbs. We lost LB Bryan Cox, CB Troy Vincent, WR Irving Fryar and DE Marco Coleman. The following year, 1997, we rec'd 3 third round comp picks. This had to be due to the value of the players lost, especially with Vincent and Coleman being Transition Players. With the three comp picks, we drafted Derrick Rodgers, Ronnie Ward and Brent Smith.
     
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    Are you sure all the players signed were eligible under the compensatory pick program?

    For instance, it seems that nobody knows for certain whether Sammy Morris would be included in the formula.
     
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    Yep, it has never been disclosed. This guy basically reverse engineered it.
     
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    Ricky quit, and legally the dolphins still own him. Probably will forever. so no, Ricky is not a free agent. Brock Marion would get you dingleberries on your ice cream.
     
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    Actually, I believe that we only hold onto RW's rights for 3 years and then he would be free to sign with any other team without us receiving any compensation.
    But we will probably always be stuck with Ricky's bill (what he owes us).
     
  34. SMadison29

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    So far this year we're even. We signed 2 UFA's (Tillman & Spragan) & lost 2 UFA's (Knight & Greenwood). Contract & talent wise we got the crappy end. We need to lose both Minor & Robinson to decent size contracts & sign Brad Johnson, not Frerotte, so that we can get two comp picks next year(provided we don't sign any other UFA's like Evans or McDougle).
     

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