Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Casas9425, Jul 27, 2012.
Each to there own.............
Miami should start Tannehill from day one if he looks better than Moore in camp. Tannehill won't learn much from holding a clipboard. If Miami has a losing record after September they should go to Tannehill.
Or we can trust Philbin and company to actually know what they are doing... What an incredible concept!
Yes, let's post another one of these instead of just carrying on the discussion in the one of other 20 threads about this.
C'mon Mods. Seriously.
Legitimate argument....#8 pick in the draft, 24 years old, coming to a team that has gone 20-28 over the past 3 seasons, had losing record in 5 of last 6 seasons, playing for OC who was his college coach the past 4 years and said he knew 80% of playbook.
I don't think there has ever been a more ideal situation for a rookie QB to start, unless of course the rookie isn't up to it.
Who cares if we was the 8th pick?
This team isnt a year away from contending. We still need another draft. And this team sure as hell isnt contending for a Superbowl this season.
Let him sit. No point letting him get David Carr syndrome for a bust year. Allow Garrard to try and push us into a winning record.
What's the rush ? i don't see a superbowl for us this year so go with the vets to start with. He'll start when he is ready to start.
If we not going anywhere then why not get the rookie feeling out of him? Only way to really learn is to go against other competition. Now if the line has blocking issues like Carr had i would say yeah don't play him much..
Yeah because Miami is an expansion team with no O-line. Seems like every team except Miami the past few years have started their rookies from day one, with very good results.
Why shake his confidence in any regard?
We still have glaring holes at key positions. We still need another draft. Id rather have him, and the rest of our team, locked and loaded for '14 instead of stumble around for the next few years. If we have to have his "rookie feeling" year next year, but the team be that much more talented to help him, so be it.
Let the Chad Johnsons and David Garrards go out there and try and revive their careers. Let the young guys sit for now.
Call me crazy but whoever is more impressive in TC will start...
What about Miami's offensive line has filled you with confidence the past few years?
Our right side is a gaping wound. After the John Jerry's and Donald Thomas', im not exactly excited about having more rookies plugged in. Instead of just giving them my trust, they are going to have to earn it.
They want to have the luxury of cutting him, because if they stink out the joint this year, they will be in a position to get Matt Barkley who is better than Tannehill in my opinion.
It's gotta be better than the '02 Texans line. If the season isn't going right, I hope Miami doesn't decide to play Tannehill like week 16 or 17 or not at all. Get him the reps.
Yep, Moore coming in w/o any serious practice time and no off-season, and having a statistically successful season, not to mention him keeping us from being 1-15 again has no bearing. Let's see if the team responds to him again this year.
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I am curious how Gardner and Murtha play out. Both of them have done well enough in the past, and I think this year is the last in both their contracts. Shold be good competition.
Don't try to preach common sense to some of these guys. They think throwing in the #8 pick behind a substandard O-line and receivers learning an entirely new offense is the right thing to do.
Gotta love fan forum logic.
music to my ears mr cote...music to my ears
I'm really looking forward to seeing what Moore can do in the Preseason?
I would start him and not look back!
until the Miami media get rid of the 'old guard bully mentality', this team will never find its captain or course… they'll run Philbin out, then the next, and so on… always impatient… their way, Aaron Rodgers would never have been able to simmer 2 years to the fine stew he became…
Screw the media dude .... I could care less about that honestly.
Philbin is the HC. I despise the fan base being driven by the media as well.
I thought the JI witch hunt was uncalled for by impatient people who don't get it.
I think Philbin and Sherman have a bit more expertise at developing QBs than Cote.
Cool Story Bro :up:
Tank the season before it even starts by throwing in a green rookie that has less than 2 years starting exp in college.... Forget letting a 2010 pro bowl QB and a QB that ended the season with a 6-3 starting record last season compete for the job, that would be nuts.
Who let's these people talk football :idk: FML
Cote is just trying to stir the pot for attention going against the crowd for attention. The NFL concensus is usually right and if Philbin is good then the coach will know when to play him not some some part time sports writer.'
and now day 2 of camp that tannehill is gonna miss cause of these damn clowns...
Mark f**king Sanchize got the start his rookie year and people think it is so ludicrous to start Tannehill.
Unless the coaches feel he isn't ready I see no point in not giving the kid the keys.
I see zero logic putting Moore or Garrard in this year. How is that helping this team other than POSSIBLY/POTENTIALLY a few more wins (not guaranteed)?
Keep bringing up Aaron Rodgers "simmering" for 2 years on the bench and then POOF that was the magical reasoning he became a beast of a QB. How about the only reason he was on that bench was because there was a guy named BRETT F**KING FAVRE in front of him. We don't have that.
Tannehill is not made of glass. He knows the offense. He needs to adjust to the speed of the game, and guess what? He won't learn that on the sidelines.
If Sanchez can survive out there I believe Tanny can as well. Look at Dalton last year. People kept saying the kid was DEFINITELY not ready to be a starter. Look at what he did. He wasn't spectacular. He wasn't terrible. He showed his immaturity at times, sure. But the kid gained so much experience out there. That's exactly what this franchise needs. A young QB to start leading this team and getting some of the growing pains out now. Why wait til next year to go through this process? It's delaying the inevitable.
But hey what do I know? What I do know is that lame a$$ saying "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results". Yeahhhhhh lets keep playing it SAFE at QB and not let young POTENTIAL (I said POTENTIAL) talent be groomed on the field. You know like all those teams with the young QB's this fanbase drools over. Everyone b*tches and complains that this is what the team needs, yet when we get some POTENTIAL young talent at the position of such desperate need people want to crawl back into their comfort zone with idiotic beliefs that MATT MOORE and DAVID F**KING GARRARD starting is going to help this team in any way other than POSSIBLY squeaking out an extra win or two.
You have to look at the long term. If Tannehill is the guy going forward, why waste a whole year to have him go through his rookie mistakes NEXT SEASON?!
Common sense would be more of this fanbase growing a pair and accepting risks have to be taken to get out of mediocracy. Until then have fun floating around .500 with noodle spine and Mr. anti-clutch.........
Matt Moore and David Garrard ARE a waste of time, and we need to see what Tannehill is ASAP because the top 4 QB prospects in next year's draft are all better prospects than Tanny IMO... Obviously a lot can change between now and next off season, but I think that's the realiry of the situation.
this franchise constantly feeds us the fans **** sandwiches...i can't believe people are ok with tanny not being in camp and not competing over this garbage...
and now at mimimum it will be going into 3 days of on field work and film study before the kid gets here...but you know what maybe this was irelands plan all along...i'm tired of the bull****
Blaine Gabbert situation waiting to happen. Mothball him.
blaine gabbert is failing for totally different reasons...poor comparison
I guess a decent point can be made either way. One thing is for sure though, Im alot more comfortable with Philbin making that decision than I would have been with Sparano calling the shots. Our head coach has been through this before so if he decides Tanny could benefit sitting for a year, I dont have the credentials to argue with him...
The debate is over the experience of live games and getting first team reps in practice is better than sitting and watching film and getting secondary left over reps in practice.
What's the big deal? If the matter is at all close, get him out there.
I think it is an outstanding comparison.
Both QB's were/are not ready to compete in the NFL.
Both QB's had/have limited weaponry
Gabbert looked shell-shocked and like wasted pick in just one season.
I think they should take the Aaron Rogers/Carson Palmer/Steve McNair approach.
blaine gabbert is failing cause he has no pocket presence and is scared ****less of contact...his eyes are on the rush more than downfield...ryan tannehill is a plus on both those fronts
We have a league mvp, Superbowl winning, future hall of game qb Tannehill can sit behind?
If you really think Tannehill brings the same potential to the table that Gabbert does then starting him now is a good thing so we are in a position to draft Barkley. Gabbert fails because he is chicken little!
If he looks the best, by all means start him. But if not, you don't just throw him out there "to see what he's got" or do it because "we're not contending". The rest of the team knows who the best QB is and they want him starting. If you start the rookie just because "he was drafted #8", you probably lose the locker room
The competition and the coaches will decide when he is ready. For now I will trust their knowledge and experience.