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  1. Dolfansal

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    If Chip Kelly does become the Browns coach like expected, Trent Richardson does not really fit his upbeat speed offense.

    Would you trade our 1st to Clev for Richardson??
     
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    Nope. I wouldn't trade our 1st. I might consider Chicagos 3rd though.
     
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    I second that thought
     
  5. ChrisJNelson

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    First of all, I don't suspect Richardson would be going anywhere.

    Secondly, running backs are not worth first-round picks. Ever. Don't do it.
     
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    I'd glady take AP in the first every single draft. even if I already had 52 other AP clones on my team already.
     
  7. NBP81

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    Why?
     
  8. ChrisJNelson

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    Peterson in the first, Arian Foster after the draft entirely. Not much difference. Running backs are products of the line and almost never carry a team (before the Vikes' 2012 I can't think of the last time). If you gave me Peterson or my choice of another position, I'd try to find another position.
     
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    We got bigger needs than rb ,to give the browns the 12th pick
     
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    Hell Yesss!!

    Then I'd move him to safety....
     
  11. j-off-her-doll

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    Bad premise. Richardson would kill in that offense. Weeden would be the bigger concern - as far as fit goes.
     
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    I'm sure Chip Kelly, who has no knowledge of how to run an offense, won't find a single way to incorporate Richardson. That being said, I'd trade a few bottles of hot sauce and a bane mask to CLE for Richardson. Stupid question, stupid answer.
     
  13. j-off-her-doll

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    I would, though, be interested in M. Ingram at the right price. The Saints aren't using him very well, and I wonder how much they value him at this point.
     
  14. hoops

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    i would be interested in that also...he needs more run...he won't get it in new orleans...and it's not because he doesn't deserve it...mid round pick i'm game
     
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    Ingram isn't a great prospect and never should have been taken in the first round. I'd trade the Saints two bottles of purple Gatorade for him.
     
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    Oh, good point.
     
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    i hope nobody pays for that kind of in depth analysis...
     
  18. j-off-her-doll

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    hoops, you calling this dude a lulz cow?
     
  19. ChrisJNelson

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    I didn't realize I had to write an essay every time I said something. Ingram isn't special. Not great speed or burst. He's not even a poor man's Emmitt Smith. He's a comatose man's Emmitt Smith. No thank you.
     
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    **** no. Lamar Miller is going to be better than him anyways when it said and done.
     
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    Abso-freaking-lutely.

    Edit: Was talking about Ingram, not Richardson, FYI.
     
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    lol says the Miami University fan. Richardson is in a different class to Lamar Miller.
     
  23. hoops

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    if you're gonna pimp yourself as a evaluator and analysts of pro football the nfl draft and the miami dolphins you can at least drop something with some meat to it every once in a while...not to much to ask...

    there's no meat in that mark ingram "analysis"
     
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    We will see Richardson vs. Miller over the next few years. I said Miller would end up being better back in March. I was pumped when Ireland drafted Miller and said it again in April...and I will still say it now: Miller > Richardson.

    I think Richardson will have a short shelf-life anyways. However, Miller has an extra special gear to him. I think he has an "it" factor. He is my guy and I will stand by him right or wrong.
     
  25. ChrisJNelson

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    I hate his lack of speed or agility. No home run ability. I don't think he offers anything more than he already is. He runs like a back that's taken an NFL pounding and is wearing down. We might as well sign Shonn Greene (who also sucks).
     
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    Didnt Green have well over a thousand yards in a crappy team with no passing game? I would hardly say that sucks.
     
  27. ChrisJNelson

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    He's a horrendous starter, probably the worst regular starting RB in the NFL. Slow, plodding, no ability.
     
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    Meh got more yards than Bush and seemed to get the job done for the Jets. If someone produces I dont really mind the write up.
     
  29. hoops

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    well that's better i guess i don't disagree with he lacks long speed...agility wise he has excellent balance and feet in tight spaces...the saints give him like 3 carries a half most the time it's either short yardage stuff up the gut or goalline...they use him like a battering ram...he gets in no rhythm and he's taken off the field all the time cause they want to get the bigger receiving weapon and dual threat in darren sproles out there...heck he even has to split reps with pieere thomas and chris ivory when he's active...

    no doubt in my mind you give ingram 10-12 carries per game opposite a speed back like a say lamar miller you will get good bang for your buck...hell if need be mark ingram could handle 15 carries per game...and he's also underutilized in the passing game... he's a rhythm back...

    he's being wasted in norleans
     
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    If you're judging a running back on total yards, you're doing it wrong.

    ---------- Post added at 08:44 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:43 PM ----------

    I wouldn't say he can't be productive in the NFL--I just don't see anything special there. And it was a terrible pick for New Orleans from Day 1.
     
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    Im judging him by the fact that he was the only productive player on that entire offense and was their only threat. Teams knew that and knew they had no passing game but he was still efficient despite that. Look at how our backs struggled when we couldnt pass. Under those conditions I say he is hardly open to ridicule at this time.
     
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    it was only a terrible pick by new orleans if they planned to use him as sparingly as they have...if he was getting 15 carries per game somewhere else i think it would be a lot different...i don't think that team would be saying i need to get better at rb right now
     
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    Like I said, you're doing it wrong. Greene was hardly productive. 3.9 a carry is terrible, but it's par for the course with Greene.

    ---------- Post added at 08:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:48 PM ----------

    He wouldn't be worth a first-round pick even if a team had only you and me at running back.
     
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    I think our runningbacks are actually pretty good. If we resign Bush and use him more in passing, and use Lamar Miller and DT more, we could have a solid RB by commission. The commission part will help offset the fact that DT and Bush tend to get injured. But giving up a first for another RB would be silly since it's not a HUGE need for us. Maybe next year, if they've fixed all the other glaring needs we have
     
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    Why the **** would we even think about doing that?
     
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    Ingram would do fine here...back on grass. Another running back wasted in New Orleans, and therefore undervalued. They have quite a knack.

    Ingram turned 23 a couple of weeks ago.

    Regarding Richardson, I have no idea why Chip Kelly would get rid of the highest drafted running back in years when his system relies so heavily on the run...more than 52 rushes per game this year.

    Granted, it's hard to project how much of his system would transfer to the NFL and what the changes would look like. An Oregon coach in the same division as the Steelers and Ravens is hilarious at first thought.
     
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    i'd take Ingram over Daniel Thomas. I dont really trust Thomas to hammer it home from inside the 5.

    I'd take Chris Ivory over both of them.

    I feel stupid for posting in such a ridiculous thread anyway.
     
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    We have enough RB's.

    We need another legit pass rushing DE to pair with Cameron Wake.
     
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    As hoops said, Ingram has great feet, vision, balance. And I think he also hit on a very key point. He's a rhythm runner. He'd be an ideal compliment for L. Miller. Each excels in area where the other struggles. Ingram doesn't have elite game-breaker speed; Miller does. Miller struggles with his assignments and is a liability as a pass protector; Ingram is very sharp and a very good pass blocker. It'd just depend on the asking price. In most drafts, I wouldn't have a problem sinking a 3rd into a player of Ingram's caliber. But we have such glaring holes to fill, and the prospects in that range happen to look like very good answers.
     

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