Cutler vs. Tannehill Season-Long Comparison Thread

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  1. <O>

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    As I've said elsewhere, I don't think it's that Tannehill's leadership is underrated, but rather that a one-year mercenary at QB can't possibly be viewed as a leader by his teammates.

    The leadership of such an individual will pale in comparison to the leadership of someone who's been on the team long-term and has a long-term contract with it (i.e., Tannehill), regardless of the quality of that long-term player's leadership ability.

    On a "leadership scale" of 0 to 100, Tannehill could be a mere 50 and obviously far outshine Cutler's leadership score -- in this particular situation -- of perhaps only 10.

    What we're seeing here is a vacancy of leadership, not necessarily an indication of someone else's leadership ability.
     
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    NE is struggling in their own right, heard on the radio today brady is on pace to take 52 sacks this year and was slow to get up a few times yesterday
     
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    Those skill players on o are seeing the qb bail out and take the easy route you can guarantee that.
     
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    No doubt, and so then why can't Gase?

    Staying with a player of that nature for any more than three games is a recipe for losing a locker room completely, especially when a warrior like Matt Moore is the alternative.
     
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    1 he help get us there. Philbin was a joke. Im not counting that crappy dink and donk offence. Tannehill should have been a star 3 years ago
     
  6. hoops

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    Cause gase knows that matt moores limitations are taking us nowhere.

    He's figuring out that cutlers are too.

    The seasons over fellas. If cutler can't expose single coverage with no help this whole things a wrap already.

    He looks washed up. Same player with the same career long flaws now just washed up. And the give a damns gone.

    He doesn't even have his 40 yard rope rifle anymore. He's throwing one hoppers on 6 yard outs.

    Go home jay
     
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    I miss Ryan too
    he was on Pace for closer to 30 TD's last year...a year with a decent OL & good weapons & normal coach the first time in his career. He had 3 TD's at half vs Arizona then got injured he would have ended with 5 most likely.

    bring me back Tan Marino!!!!
     
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    Hell even Sanchez tried to sell it despite...lol

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    Lol I love how he jumped
     
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    I really wonder who gave him that medical advice. Dolphins have had a long history with incompetent medical staffs making horrible decisions. Ah well just hope Ryan comes back with a fire in his belly.
     
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    Fire in his belly, like a fierce competitor??? hahahahahaha.
     
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    His football playing career has been put in jeopardy. Could spark something we haven't seen before.
     
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    Maybe, I hope he does come back with a passion or fire we have not seen, with a rookie being the backup.
     
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    Sure to have a top 10 pick. I think you have to pick a QB so if RT can't hold up we don't go through this again
     
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    There are 3 very good QB prospects which are all better prospects then this years rookie class. (With the exception of Watson)
     
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    That is actually a pretty decent effort
     
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    If he didn't get hurt last year, he would have played in his first playoff game...and, who knows? We may have won!
     
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    I have a new appreciation for Ryan Tannehill, that's for sure.
     
  19. Mogwai

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    Compared to Jay Cutler?? Lol **** yeah it is
     
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    Just goes to show you that even if Cutler is more talented arm and pocket wise it means nothing. Tannehill far better leader.. Cuitler is not plain and simple..
     
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    Have saw this image on twitter a few times
     
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    RIP missing Tannehill thread, but he is still missed

    And comparisons to jay Cutler lolz

    This guy got it from the very start

     
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    I can agree with that. While Tannehill is more athletic and can gain yards on the run better, Cutler just manipulates the pocket so well. Maybe Tannehill will benefit from seeing that and try to incorporate those moves somewhat
     
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    end of thread Tannehill is better
     
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    They will lose. Team has no heart. Tannehill is the heart of the team and makes Gase look good. Gase had a lot of balls to say he didn't like what he saw last year. With Cutler and Gase running the show this week at home. Im looking forward to the Booooooooooo,s.
     
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    Cutler just manipulates the pocket so well.
    This is kind of an ironic quote, because he scrambles out of the pocket just to get sacked anyways or a bounce pass to a receiver. He can't throw on the run and is horribly inaccurate. There's absolutely nothing to like about this guy.
     
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    I agree with you on many of your takes Travis, but you lost me on this one. Cutler manipulates the pocket in the tradition of Jim Everett...he bails when it's not necessary and often struggles to make a decent pass in doing so...or rolls into pressure.

    At this point I think the only thing that Tannehill can learn from Cutler is how to keep a hot wife through his NFL career...
     
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    Well, it's a double edged sword. Sometimes he does a really good job of feeling pressure and moving, and sometimes he does a really good job of getting happy feet and ****ing up his chances at completing a pass.
     
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    Bingo. Cutlers eye level drops a lot and when he does bring them back up from the pocket it's by and large for the underneath dump option while bailing out on the throw.

    The only real thing I see is cutler climbs the pocket pretty well when he has a wide middle opening and gets early wide pressure from both sides.

    But then half the time after while climbing he throws the ball errant or in the dirt
     
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    I have a bad feeling about Cutler - not just his mentality, but his arm. I don't know how extensive the shoulder repair was, but something doesn't look quite right. He seems to have velocity when his feet are set and he steps into it, but on anything else, he's either inaccurate, weak or both. I mean maybe it's just tightness/range of motion and with reps things will get better. Or maybe not.

    He has never been the most consistent QB when it comes to placement, but he used to be able to throw on the move ok. Now, it's just bad. Really quite bad.
     
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    If I remember, didnt he take a shot in preseason and land on his shoulder?

    I wonder if that has something to do with his arm strength and "avoid contact at all costs" mentality.

    He was throwing the ball much better in preseason prior to that hit.
     
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    No he wasn't
     
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    Wow!!! So a top QB that is not getting good pass-blocking, actually can't do his job well...who would have known.
     
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    I agree, before this years injury, everyone around him was saying he had that fire, and wanted to right what happened last years at the end of the season. Hope he can get healthy and prove those people correct.
     
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    I get what you're saying but Brady has the most yards in the NFL right now to go with 11 TDs and 1 INT. Sacks are up sure but that MFer is still awesome.
     
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    True, and I agree with you, but Tannehill might never ever be Brady. I have been watching Brady, and those sacks are starting to take their toll on him, they could have very easily lost that Bucs game.

    Unless the Patriots fix it soon, Brady's awesomeness might start to dwindle down a bit.
     
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    Nobody will ever be Brady unfortunately.
     
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    You spelled Marino wrong.
     
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    Well, though I agree he is an great QB, I know that eventually there will be another QB as smart as him (What made him great), in fact (No disrespect to Brady...again, he is a great QB), I would take Rodgers over Brady every single time.

    Personally, I think there will realistically not be a QB like Marino for a very long time.
     

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