Dan Henning deserves some of the blame here

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  1. Adam First

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    Remember how last year we survived against bad teams like San Francisco, Oakland and Seattle throwing dink and dunks, screens, and other short passes?

    Yeah, Atlanta showed it's not going to work against superior talent. It seemed like our playbook was not adjusted at all against constant pressure from Atlanta. And that's not a repeat thing, it happened so many times last year. Carolina fired Henning because of his soft playcalling.

    When is enough going to be enough for Sparano and Parcells?

    Dishonorable mention goes to Dave DeGuglielmo. Deplorable offensive line play.
     
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    Someone has to agree with me
     
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    It's funny how we have a new o-line coach and allegedly upgraded our o-line for this year and yet it's worse then it was last season???!!!! What the hell is going on??
     
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    all henning as going for him is that he came up with the wildcat. take that away and what do we have? a dink and dunk 5 yard passing attack and a running game that cant run without a gimmick play.
     
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    Dan Henning has not impressed since being head coach of the Chargers 60 years ago
     
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    playcalling is definately to blame...id say the O-Line without a doubt was the biggest problem with the play calling coming in at a close 2nd. Pennington doesnt pick the plays with the short routes. Im tired of hearing about his "weak arm" but he can throw the ball 40 yards. If he couldnt he wouldnt be in the NFL. Guys have to get open even if its a 10 yard pass your moving the chains. Screens and dump passes that get your 3 or 4 yards is not the way to play. They called the wildcat at terrible times.
     
  7. Adam First

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    I'm not giving up on DeGuglielmo yet, it was his first game as O-Line coach. His debut certainly sucked though. We can only hope he can improve.
     
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    My biggest complaint about Henning today was calling the wildPat plays at the wrong time (the second one, the first was called at a good time) and not sticking to the run enough. we had the run going pretty well.

    on the other hand you can point out that some of his plays like the trick play to haynos worked well and also the small pass to fasno but we fumbled and our o-line played so bad its ahrd to knock henning.
     
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    The Miami Mularkey, anyway.
     
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    Dan "Kippy" (Brown) Henning
     
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    The gadget plays are very annoying, I agree. Taking Pennington off the field is killing us. Pat White was a deer in the headlights, and justifiably so, seeing that Sparano gave him absolutely no time in the preseason to even get comfortable in a game situation. I was afraid that would happen with the "WildPat" and sho nuff it did.

    I'm confident the WildPat will work better down the road but they need to figure out a way to keep Pennington on the field when White is in there.
     
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    I put our offensive woes directly to the Oline!
     
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    the o-lines crappy blocking doesnt have anything to do with the play calls. We're very predictable and that doesnt help the o-line either.
     
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    Our O-Line did pretty good with only a few breakdowns. We did run the ball well. But, you have to understand something. I don't care who you are, you can't keep holding onto the ball for more than 3 seconds in the pocket. The pressure will eventually catch up to you, and it did today. This is the reason we have the 3 second buzzer test for quarterbacks in training camp.
     
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    henning didnt come up with the wildcat.. lee did
     
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    I agree.

    I hated some of the playcalling today. Way too predictable.
     
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    i dont know what the hell that wildcat run to the left with white was.. definitely one of THEE worst play calls i have EVER seen
     
  18. Adam First

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    That play looked more like they were running the Double Option rather than the Wildcat.

    News flash: Nobody is fooled by the Option in the NFL
     
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    agreed.... and i always find it frustrating when we rarely use playaction

    we have Ricky and Ronnie in the backfield and we rarely did it. when we did we had some great plays connecting.
     
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    LOL...we ran the ball well? what game were u watching?


    Tom Brady has way more than 3 seconds when he drops back...therefore he has enough time to make his best decision to his most open receiver. Its nice when you have blocking...
     
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    I don't think that the playcalling was anything special. And I think we went to the trick plays at times when we needed a conventional drive much more. But I think the real fault today lies with our execution. The offense committed four turnovers. That wasn't the coordinator's fault, it was the players.
     
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    the blame should go to the offense as a whole but specifically it was the o-line, turnovers and predictable, conservative, crappy play calling.
     
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    i mean cmon...were down 19-0 with 4 and a half minutes left in the game and were huddling wasting time and still "trying" to run the ball.
     
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    Uhhh...The game we just played where we averaged 4.8 yards a carry. What game were you watching???
     
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    they did that because the team gave up and just wanted to run the clock out and go home... They gave up at the end and it was extremely embarrassing
     
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    i like some of the words... agreed

    yes i wasn't fond on some of the playcalling, and as i stated not much playaction..... but yes, execution was poor!!! execution is still needed no matter what
     
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    The play calling is limited to what the QB can actually run. The sad thing is I think Penny can make some more throws, but he is playing it too safe. Check, Check, Check, Check....Throw the damn ball down the field Chad.
     
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    I definately agree with this. Dan had us throwing some bull $hit plays out there. I was screaming that in the bar today.Why can't we throw the f_ing ball down field? Why can't our recievers get open? Why can't we move the damn ball downfield? Sorry, just venting. Our offense has been like this for the longest(playing so damn conservative)... and i cant take it anymore
     
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    I think if this porous play calling continues, David Lee will take hold of the OC position. I'm intrigued to see what he can potentially do.
     
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    As I was cooking dinner i was thinking the same thing. I live in Carolina country so I hear about them all the time. And his playcalling up in Charlotte was atrocious, to say the least. He's too vanilla, Wannstedt-esque if you like. Maybe that's just me, but it's not just this game. And Dave D. really has got to do something with this line. I really didn't feel Masser was this bad last year. Actually thought he did a pretty decent job. I know it's one game and we can't hang our hats on it, i'm just kinda pissed on the letdown. Was soooo amped for this game, and now I just wanna kick my cat. (not gonna go all Vick on him) but Long, I expected more from him. He did so good last year, and Abraham just made him look like Damion McIntosh 2.0. It hurts, i'm my heart place. :boohoo:
     
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    I dont. What do you want him to do, fire himself? Its up to BP or TS to fire his sorry ***. Hes sorry, but no one quits because they suck. I told you guys this after the TB game.
     
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    4.8? it was 4.4 and the longest run was 14 yards. I wouldnt consider that a GOOD running game. I would consider it mediocre at best.
     
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    You know what, I really like this idea. I don't think Dorrell has it in him, at least not yet. Lee could be a very intersesting option, a la Garrett several years ago. At least a shot in the arm, right? I hate vanilla! I want some Neapolitan! :lol:
     
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    Um...what
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    the play calling is definately way too conservative and predictable. You know were running on first down. 90% chance were gonna run it on 2nd. Pass on 3rd. Time to punt.
     
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    Ronnie Brown 10 for 43 yards (4.3 ypc)

    Ricky Williams 7 for 39 yards (5.6 ypc)

    Combined : 82 yards / 7 carries = 4.8
     
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    That adds to my playcalling rant. We didn't run the ball...we are way too quick to abandon the run.

    Ronnie needs at least 20 touches a game, not including Wildcat or receiving.
     
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    we had 22 rushing plays for 96 yards for a 4.4 ypc average... your not including polite or ginns reverse or white's rushes
     
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    My least favorite play (Aside from 90% of what we called today):

    QB takes 3 step drop, counts to 2 and throws the ball into the line of scrimmage.

    That one needs to be taken out of the playbook and burned.

    (Yes, I know Penny was under pressure alot, but he was throwing the ball away WAY too damn early sometimes.)

    I hate our offense right now. (ALL of it)
     
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