Darlington: Martin texts Incognito "I don't blame you guys at all...."

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    https://mobile.twitter.com/JeffDarlington/tweets

    For thos bashing Incognito READ the tweets. Martin responded to Incognitos text to him asking how he was doing. Seems like those "sources" maybe wrong about Incognito.

    "I don't blame you guys at all its just the culture around football & the locker room that got to me a little."
     
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    NO No NO! Incognito is a punk! Alex Marvez said so! martin doesn't know wtf he's talking about...
     
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    Martin is moving himself out of the NFL.
     
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    The fans are responsible

    being sarcastic but not really
     
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    I wish Martin could at least stay in as backup. Or he really was a waste of a pick.
     
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    Pretty much. He's handled this terribly.
     
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    Got to him a little, seriously?

    I hope he understands at some point in his life the opportunity he pissed away.

    However if he has mental health issues I can't blame him at that point. But I'm not getting the sense he actually does. He just appears to be someone that is fully entrenched in our current PC culture.
     
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    Well, well well.

    Isn't that interesting.

    ---------- Post added at 09:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:41 PM ----------

    Don't believe everything you read.
     
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    Im quoting Omar now and I know that's a no no but Omar doesn't see him as a football guy that lives and breaths football. He enjoys it but apparently not any more.

    Think about it. At the draft he had the worst number of 225 reps for any lineman. Wrs and dbs were doing more. At my strongest I could throw 225 15 times. If this games was important to him he would have been lifting all off season. Based on how he's been getting pushed around this season I'd guess he wasn't in the weight room.

    That's fine, he's not into football. That's something Ireland should have know before wasting a 2nd on him.

    /rant.

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    He got 20 reps at 225.

    At the most important pre-employment event so far in his life.

    Literally, right now, I think I can get right in that range at 46 years of
    age, with a right shoulder that was separated, and a left shoulder that
    is one steroid injection away from surgery. I top out at 305ish right now.

    ETA; I would agree that there's a big possibility he's really not that into
    football.
     
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    Sometimes intelligent people can behave in an illogical manner and do something that they later regret. It's a pity that a wise old head wasn't around at the time of the incident to dissipate the emotion and resolve it. I do hope that he can sort out his thoughts and return to the team and make a contribution. I would give him another chance and evaluate his performance on the field.
    It wasn't too many years ago that Richie Incognito's career was in tatters after getting kicked out of St Louis for fighting. Jeff Ireland gave him a second chance.
     
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    I don't think Martin wanted his private texts to Incognito to be blabbed to the media. That may put additional strain on the relationship. At this point, I don't think Martin is long for the NFL. He just doesn't seem into it, and if its not his thing, he should find something else, and I think he will. I don't see Martin returning.
     
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    I would agree. I don't think you can come back from the incident before this. Now, there's no way.
    I'm glad, actually. No calling him names, etc....Don't do what you don't want to do in life when you
    have an opportunity to do something else. Really. I don't know what Martin majored in, but I'd
    bet is was something worthwhile, and a Stanford degree is a meal ticket.

    ---------- Post added at 10:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:17 PM ----------

    I would always take a chance on a guy that likes to fight.
     
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    Has anyone considered that this may be a mental health issue? Basically a sickness that Martin cannot help. Mental illness can come about at any age and there is a possibility that he is lost right now. That doesn't mean he's a bad guy and it doesn't mean he was "bullied." The fans and the team should just give him the time he needs to get well and then decide the best course of action from there. A person's well being is bigger than the game of football.
     
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    Yes. It has been considered and mentioned at every turn.
     
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    Hey, if Martin is going to have a future with the Dolphins, it has to begin with healing his relationship with his teammates. Incognito texting him and him texting him back is the beginning of that healing process. Regardless of whether Incognito was a leader in the pranks--and I suspect he is/was--he is one of the leaders of the offense and the O Line. It begins with him.
     
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    He's no longer my favorite Martin
     
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    Another great draft pick by Ireland...
     
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    Wahhh wahhhh. Stfu Martin and play ball.
     
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    Funny thing is neither Martin or incognito will be apart of our future. Our whole o line needs a make over
     
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    He's done in Miami.
     
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    Maybe he's gay
     
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    If Martin has a serious mental illness, I wish him the best of luck and hope he can get his life together.

    As far of the Dolphins go it's time to move on. Guess they'll be drafting at least 4 offensive linemen and will be signing a couple in free agency. Time to totally rebuild the offensive line.
     
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    Jmart was just mad that he had to go back to RT; the position he hates; because Clabo couldn't block a wall and then lost it when Yeatman was on the left side the whole game. Saying that "anybody looks good with another tackle next to him." Right before his douche bag linemen moved to the QBs table and Clabo missed his chair, thus resulting in Tannehills chair breaking and falling to the ground, Tannehill dropped his sandwich in the process.
     
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    Martin will be back, probably soon. I don't sense this as career threatening or something that couldn't be mostly healed with his teammates in short order.

    He's dedicated, just not athletic or naturally strong.

    Incognito is likely the instigator, the guy who pushed too far and took the other linemen with him. Kind of ridiculous that the Dolphins use Incognito on those stadium video advertisements, dressed as a polo player and admonishing fans to be respectful of each other and to avoid profanity or other abuses.
     
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    LOL at those quick to say "another wasted pick." You can't scout a guy's passion to play football.
     
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    Relax dude, John Jerry got to pounce on the fallen sandwich.
     
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    Yeah it seems it is just another blown 2nd round pick by Ireland
     
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    But he has a mental illness!!!!! :lol:

    I still have a feeling that's all bs.

    ---------- Post added at 07:10 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:10 AM ----------

    I'm good. He can go play badly for another team.
     
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    It's a possibility but it's thrown up as an excuse so much that it's become a "boy who cried wolf" type of thing to me. I'll believe it when/if it's confirmed. Until then I'll say he's a soft coward. Mental illness or no mental illness, I want him off my team.
     
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    I just think he doesn't want to play football. When they moved him to LT he he did it and did his best, then they just moved him back to RT and maybe he wasn't happy about it . Then when he was teased , it was like he snapped as he really doesn't even want to be here, playing football. Maybe with his education and background he just wants to do something else. Maybe he just was like us
    and didnt want to get up and go to his job as it was a job, not something he wanted to do. Then with the pranks... he just said bye bye...I just don't think he has the desire to play football.
     
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    Definitely agree with you. My worry though is that Ireland has a terrible track record of drafting lineman. Outside of Pouncey (who may have just been a lucky guess) everyone they have drafted for the line has been useless.
     
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    How can he? If he does come back, it's only because ******* are hurt.

    Eh, regardless...If you need to respect and nurture your O linemen.....
    Whatever.
     
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    I'm gonna defend Incognito for a moment. Everyone knows or grew up around someone like him. He abused the crap out of Eggnoodle hacking into his Facebook account last year and the kid seemed to take it in stride. Martin decided to "be a victim" best I can tell. That's on him for handling things this way. **** him. Goodbye wasted second round pick. Perhaps he can start the Jonathan Martin anti-locker room pranking Foundation and put his fancy education to use. Surely he's wasting his talents on the field because I thought he sucked *** from his first start to his last. P***y.
     
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    Jonathan Martin is clearly not cut out for professional football. Fortunately for him, at least he's got one of the most powerful degrees in the country to fall back on.
     
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    If Martin can lose his cool getting pranked in the lunch room with team mates, imagine how the opposition dline will abuse him verbally.
    "martin...dont cry Martin"..."Need a tissue for your issue"... Is the Ref going to be his mommy?
    He has created another controversy by acting like a child. Mental illness...baloney. He is a pu.ss.y ...His father(if he knows who he is) is likely one too.
    In the long run, I am glad this happened because I cannot stand to see RT getting killed on the field because of him.
    We won the game without him, and ran the ball well.
    Let him walk and never look back.
    Incog? I love his passion and sense of humor. He is a leader on and off the field. Get more guys like him on the oline...not sniveling cry babes.
     
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    He will not be remembered for playing football, just for acting like child while quitting. Professionally, this will hurt him too for quite some time.
    He should have sucked up the prank and turned in his play book the following Friday. He let his team down 2 days before the game.
    That would have been the right way to leave if he didn't have the stomach for team camaraderie and football in general.
    IMHO...he just used the Fins to pay back his student loans and get set up financially. It was probably going to quit at some point.
     
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    Does this only happen to Miami? Ricky, that lineman under Saban, Martin..They just leave.
     
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    Yeah Im done with him too, Jonathan Martin is suppose to be a professional and just walking off the job with out speaking is grounds for termination in any field. Someone playing a prank on you is not valid reason to walk off the job.
     
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    NFLPA is now getting involved, per ESPN.

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9913324/sources-nflpa-eyes-miami-dolphins-richie-incognito-jonathan-martin-case

    It doesn't matter WHO is to blame or WHAT the story is.... you don't want the NFLPA and lawyers sniffing around your team. They don't get paid to report glowing reviews. This could turn into a PR nightmare for the team.

    Regardless of what people think of Martin, he's a human being. Everyone is taking the news with disbelief and taking the sides of everyone else on the team. And what if there was something going on? What if Martin is the only person in his own corner?

    School shootings, hazing and bullying, in general. No one in this world likes it when the mob turns on them. People ALWAYS jump to the side of the accused when bullying is brought to the spotlight. A silent voice inside of us is glad it's not use because most of us have experienced it. Yet, being in those moments should have given us insight into the reality of how bullies tend to be wearing the "I was just" or "I didn't do anything" or "I'm innocent" robe when attention is brought to their actions. Yet, everyone still takes the side of the bully.

    Frankly, I don't care if it is football. I don't care if it is organized sports for grown men. Their comes a time when being a human supersedes any affiliation with social groups to establish an identity.

    It's obvious this is more than one incident. But the weak shall cling to the group and support the accused.

    Frankly, their comes a time when those in the mob should realize they have crossed a line and have failed at being a human. The cowards move to the rear and cling to the only protection they have, the group. Yet, they singled out a fellow human and decided to take out their failures on him.

    I hope the cowards are found. I hope the truth is found. And I hope the trash is taken to the curb.

    Every group has an opportunity to govern itself. When it fails to do so at the expense of others, it's time for the group to be accountable for its actions.

    Blame Martin all you want for his reactions. He simply reached the point where enough was enough. Those carrying out the acts had plenty of chances to police themselves. But they went to far and now they must be dealt with. They had their chances. They brought this on themselves.

    Martin has every right to live as a human being. Regardless of the situation or his state of mind. Those around him should have been more responsible to themselves and him. They failed as humans. Not him.
     
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    It happened under Shula too.
    Brian (strange brain) Sochea (sp)...I think they found him tied up to a tree naked in the everglades..
     
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    The "coward" is Martin. This whole write of yours is just pathetic IMHO.
    Regarding the lawyers, nothing will come of it. Martin will get quietly paid and the NFL will sweep this under the rug.
    IMHO..All the NFL owners will think along these lines.
    This is not a public school. This is a high stakes, brutal sport. These are bullies, borderline criminals and tough guys playing ball. That is the reality.
    These soft metro-sexual types need not apply. Just more pu.ss.ification of America.
     
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    I didn't recall that - wow!!! Is that how they finally got that under-sized, poor excuse for a nose tackle off the team? It would have been easier if they just bullied him. Damn!
     
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    As I remember, he played well at times, very tenacious, but he was really strange off the field. I don't know why his career ended, probably injuries.
    His team mates probably kid napped him and tied him up. That was my point. At least he wasn't a quitter.
     
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    Why do you insist on catagorizing it as BULLYING?
     
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    ha - I totally missed it. I thought he was just into some weird sh*t! Imagine what Martin would have done if it was him?

    I might have been thinking of Chuck Klingbeil. That era of never get off the field defense is now a blurr to me - there was a NT we had that got pushed all over the place.
     
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    Hey , u want to act like a toughguy? u want to be a machoman? great but do it against the other team. We dont kill our own , is there any brains up there at all? we spend a 2nd round pick on this dude, n for this incognito who didnt cost anything to neutralize our 2nd round pick because he wanted to have a little fun can go straight to the gates of hell.
     

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