DeAndre Hopkins declares for draft

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  1. Bagga-Viagra

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    [video=youtube;bVWm9pNiXYY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVWm9pNiXYY[/video]
    Guy looks like a baller and should be available in round 3. Love his ability to go up and get passes and his blue-collar mentality. No showboating in the end zone. Kid acts like he's been there before and seems like he has a great attitude. Definitely one to watch.
     
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    Round 2
     
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    Think so? There's going to be a lot of WR talent coming out this year. Looking forward to see how he does at the combine.
     
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    He's looking pretty good tonight.
     
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    Ive had hopkins in just about everyone of my mocks.

    Him and mingo... tonights game should show you why.
     
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    Deandre Hopkins had a monster game against LSU....wouldn't mind having him in a Fins uniform
     
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    I wish. As a freshman I saw he was a baller. I'd love to have him in a Fins uniform either late in the 2nd or early 3rd. He is a young playmaker!!
     
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    After this game and that speed...possible 1st rounder now
     
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    No way Hopkins last to the third round. I think he has a better chance of going late in the first round than he does of falling to the third. Could be a possible second round target with either of Miami's 2 selections.
     
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    Tonight? He's looked good all year.
     
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    Stud draft him in the early 2ndmock
     
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    Told all you bastards he is a top NFL prospect.

    Been a dominate presence all year.
     
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    Could you imagine? Mingo in the first and Hopkins with early second?
     
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    I think Hopkins will be moving on up to the first round after that performance. No way he drops to us in the middle of the 2nd.
     
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    His 40 time will be important. With him, Terrence Williams, Allen, Tavon, Patterson, Woods and Hunter all out there, some of them have to slip into Round 2.
     
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    Don't forget about Bailey, Wheaton, Jordan Matthews as a few more names. Definitely a deep receiver class this year (at least from a college productivity and size standpoint).
     
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    Good Lord, Hopkins was a stud against one of the best defenses/secondaries in the country. His team mate, Watkins is a pimp too!

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    If you say so. He had five 100 yard receiving games this season before LSU and they were against Auburn, Ball State, Boston College, Georgia Tech and Duke...sorry if I wasn't impressed with that. I also saw him in a few games this year like Auburn, FSU and South Carolina so excuse me if one big game against a legit defense doesn't completely sway me.
     
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    I went to Clemson and I've seen him play more than most. If the Dolphins are looking for another OJ McDuffie in Miami this is your guy. Trade back a little in the first round and get him. He's worth it.
     
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    Hopkins played a hell of a game against LSU. He looks like someone that could get over looked and fall into the middle of round #2. I'm hopeful of a MAJOR RUN on DT, DE and OT's throughout round #1 and a RUN on CB's in the mid to late round #1 through early round #2, leaving MANY WR's possibly available at Miami's 1st pick in round #2.
     
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    17.1 ypc and 18 TDs this year, seems a little more dynamic than McDuffie. I want a pass rusher in the first, there will a WR in the second that will do fine. Hopefully Hopkins. His hands are money.
     
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    sign me up. man the wr class is deep this year. there isnt that one stand out guy but man there are alot of quality wrs
     
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    Yeah, I guess I should have waited until after the game to rank him draft-wise. :)

    I was basing his draft grade on his season stats and the depth at WR that will be coming out. Of course, if he runs a 4.3 40 at the combine all bets are off.
     
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    Good for you. No need to get all defensive.

    That said, you failed to mention that he scored a touchdown in every game this season except for one. And that one was against Furman (funny enough). I guess that didn't support your argument, though, so you decidedly chose to ignore that interesting little fact.

    Eighteen receiving touchdowns and over 1400 yards. And 6/13 games (46%) 100+ receiving yards isn't a bad thing. And he just proved that he could do it without Sammy Watkins on the other side.

    He has big play potential. And he has looked pretty good this year. I'd take him in the second and not apologize.
     
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    Allen and Hopkins or hunter and Hopkins
     
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    Great for him that he scores, that's more than any of our receivers now. The fact that Sammy Watkins didn't play would mean he would get more passes thrown his way which means more opportunities...he had 20+ passes thrown his way against LSU. Quinton Patton had 21 receptions for 233 yards and 4 TDs against Texas A&M should that make him the #12 overall pick for the Dolphins at WR?

    Stats are nice, they get you noticed, but I don't judge entirely on stats. If everyone was judged entirely on stats QBs like David Klingler, Timmy Chang, Case Keenum would be 1st round picks. I have no issue with DeAndre Hopkins in the 2nd, but no way would I take him with the #12 overall pick.
     
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    Never advocated him at #12 and we agree there. And I'm not just using stats, I watched a good portion of the Clemson games this year (living in NC, lots of SC transplants, and lots of their games on TV).

    I agree stats don't tell everything, but as I said, he has big play potential, has shown that he is durable, can catch the balls thrown his way and knows what an end zone looks like. Stats didn't tell me that. The games did.

    And my point with Sammy Watkins out had nothing to do with increased targets/opportunities. It had to do with a little carpe diem. Not his fault the balls are coming his way. It would be his fault if he did nothing about it.
     
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    And just to be clear: There are many receivers that I like in this draft. DeAndre Hopkins is one. But he isn't number one. However, a second round combination of DeAndre Hopkins and Stedman Bailey wouldn't be too shabby. Nor would other receiving combos.

    With all that said, measurements and speed will be important and my opinion may change.
     
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    I live in NC, Clemson is on TV a lot here. He's a good route runner and I love that he catches the ball with his hands. He's very good at catching low throws and going down to ground to secure the pass, he uses his body well to shield the defender from the pass, he high points the ball and wins contested balls. What I don't see is a lot of separation though so I'm not sure he has that much speed. He's elusive and has good quickness but I would say he's a low 4.5's guy and his route running will have to get better for him to separate from NFL corners.
     
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    i have seen a lot of seperation. That is where the 18 TDs and 17+ypr come from. It is, of course, not against the best pass defenders in the country. Speed could be an issue at the next level. Sub 4.4 he is a legit WR1 for an NFL team. At 4.5 he is a WR2. At 4.6+ he is a good WR3 or possesion receiver.
     
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    He got separation against LSU, South Carolina, and FSU...that is pretty darned good competition.

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    Seems like a playmaker which means Ireland will not draft him....lol

    Ozzy rules!!
     
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    Probably true!

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    Loved McDuffie but I don't want another one right now. McDuffie was not fast. He was great at going up for the ball and at getting first downs, but we need speed now. Hartline/Bess = McDuffie.
     
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    Can we please try and keep these petty comments out of the draft section? The main forum has enough of this talk.
     
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    I'd love Patton in the 2nd.
     
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    Unfortunately I don't think he's going to get overlooked very long. He'll go in the 2nd but how early will be the question. I thought at the beginning of the year he would last till the 3rd but there's no possibility of that anymore. I think the secret is out on him. Especially when I keep seeing his name come up on NFL.com or ESPN and him being compared to Reggie Wayne.
     
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    Yeah, I've been seeing that too. I think he belongs in that group of late-1st/early-to-mid-2nd guys. I'd be happy to take him with our 1st 2nd. I think that's solid value, and I think he might be the safest WR in the whole class. Of course, a lot of it will depend upon the other WR we draft/sign. Their skill sets should compliment each other's.
     
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    truths got it right hopkins at #12 is too rich...i think patterson at #12 is too rich there also...as for patton i agree with truth also 2nd round there although he and t williams and that big body kid dobson could really help themselves senior bowl week...could be some risers on my board after that...could go the other way also though

    miami should have plenty to choose from with that high 2nd rounder at wr if they choose to go that route...no excuses for ireland if the kid stinks...none

    i don't like any te at #12 either...again it's too rich
     
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    the more you look at it and the quality of the depth at wr in the 2nd and 3rd rounds maybe the best option at #12 is pass rusher or corner...get the highest rated corner on the board heck you may be get the top guy if one of the pass rushers you covet is off the board...seems to make some sense i guess...

    although i do think keenan allen is on the cusp of being worth that top 12 pick...and i do think he's gonna show well at the combine...tough stuff...is any corner all that impressive where you say he's worth that top pick though??? i don't know...banks has serious upside and milliners a guy that i don't feel like takes snaps off and he's put out some good tape this year...

    and i know people don't want an ot that high and i get it but there is some good looking tackles out there this year...really is...you can get a day starting tackle anywhere in the top 20 in this class with ease imo...
     
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    does anyone think Ertz/TE is a viable option with our early 2nd?? would he even be there??
     
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    im leaning towards going legit pass rusher with #12, if we get a choice between Dion Jordan/Werner/D. Moore its going to be difficult to pass up. I think it is imperative that we go out in FA and pick-up a legit #1 Wr, that way we can take our chances with one of our 2s to grab a speed demon...
     
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    Yes, odds to be there 50/50 last Las Vegas line I saw. Seriously, he is there in most mocks I have seen.
     
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    i'd say around pick #42 is where ertz will come off...somewhere in the 40 to 50 range...unless he runs a bad # which i don't anticipate...i think he'll be in the mid 4.6's
     
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    where are we supposed to be picking in the 2nd??
     
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    42nd and 57'ish (have to wait and see where Indy ends up in the playoffs).

    ---------- Post added at 05:13 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:11 PM ----------

    You think? I was thinking low 4.7's for Ertz. If he runs mid 4.6's I would definitely be all over him with the first 2nd rounder we have.
     
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    If Watkins was healthy and not suspended this year he would've put those numbers up, not Hopkins.

    Simple as simple gets.
     
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    id be all for Ertz with 42 and best available wr with our 2nd 2...
     
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    mid 4.6's low 4.7's not really that much difference...we're pretty much in line...i don't see any late 4.5's in play with him
     

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