DEFENSE puts RONNIE on notice!!!

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  1. Redneck Friend

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    the defense [thankfully] is keeping tabs on one mr. ronnie brown!

    there is a comment posted in the herald about ronnie getting comfortable
    with his place on the team and yuking it up with the guys.

    but the defense has pointedly reminded him.....


    i know the sabanists will be blaming the o-line ALL YEAR for ronnies
    lack of production. but i agree witht he defense, the o-line is more
    than good enough to run behind and ronnie should be producing
    some BIG yards.

    as i have said over and over, ricky could get 1450 yds out of this line
    even WITH benny anderson [who won't be on the line long].

    number 2 over all!! 20+ mill up front and a huge salary means we should
    see production fitting what he makes and where he was picked.

    and i am glad the defense is letting him know it!!!!!

    LET THE :fire: :fire: :fire: BEGIN!!!!




    http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/football/15395134.htm
     
  2. cnc66

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    so let me get this right...you WANT Ronnie to fail.... it would please you and give the appearence that you are smart...right?
     
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    I agree. I had not thought about that.. Ricky did run all those yds, with the OLine we had in the Wannstedt era.
    By the way, you really think Anderson will be cut?
     
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    I think they are simply backing up their starting RB, and OL. What did you expect them to say, well I think Ronnie will struggle this year because our OL sucks. I mean I think it is great to sync up the team, but in reality, if the he doesn't do well, then it will be nature for fans, and the media, to provide an explanation, whether it is the line or him (more likely the line)
     
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    Ricky's a cutter and Ronnie is a straight ahead runner (in my admitted limited football knowledge). So, unless I'm wrong, you need to run straight THRU a hole, in order to be successful. Why do you think Ricky always bounced it outside? Cause the inside was all bundled up. Ronnie doesn't break it outside, so if the OL doesn't open any gaps, it will be a long year for Ronnie.
     
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    :chuckle: Spot on, cnc.
     
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    his lack of production? why do you already assume that he is going to have a lack of production? with the same line last year, ricky and ronnie had the same yards per carry, so that would equate to similar numbers of 1450 yards for ronnie this year with this oline, even with bennie anderson.
     
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    did you even watch the panthers game? there were, on two or three occasions, 3 or 4 panthers in the backfield by the time ronnie even GOT the ball. i don't see how that's ronnie's fault. the offensive line needs to step up if ronnie's going to have a good year.
     
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    ronnies gonna have a huge year, but even still he'll need the line to do well... when we had the ****ty line ricky only had like a 3.5 ypc, we cant do that...
     
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    I don't understand. Do you think Ricky did better than Ronnie last year? Did you expect Ronnie to get 1500 yards while splitting carries??

    I keep seeing that in the national media as well... "well, Ronnie only had 900-some yards last year..." Well, no kidding guys, he was sharing the rock with Ricky.
     
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    Facts ... I love it...
     
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    You have watched little or no football as of late if you think the problem is Ronnie Brown rather then the O-line.
     
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    You got a point on ricky but lets face it he is gone and most likely waste his whole career suspended The way his going . I loved the way rickey had an eye to find those holes in the line . People should really stop comparing the too together ronnie is no ricky maybe time will tell .On a brighter note let this guy show us what he can do alone and see what this year brings us . I'm not sold on ronnie either but will never wish for him to bring us down it still to early to tell and I think this season we will know what he is all about.I myself see him as a very solid number 2 Rb hope he proves me wrong GOOOO fins . :dolphins:
     
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    I believe the 2 game he was trying to cut but got no where .I seen ricky play live about 5 times and his speed when he breaks surprise me let hell ! Im wondering if ronnie has the same speed or is he a little slower cutting back have to go check out his times gives me something to do at work :lol:
     
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    So far, as far as run blocking, our O-line hasn't been able to get out of their own way. What I've seen so far this preseason, is that Rex can't keep up with a play when he pulls, and Jeno pulls right into the hole that Ronnie is supposed to run through. Like last year, I see Ronnie routinely getting met 2 yards deep in the back field, yet still fights and claws for positive yardage.

    Carter has been smoking the new bubble turf if he thinks this is a great O-line.
     
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    I wonder how much of it is ronnie and how much it is nick telling him to run the play with no deviations. 'Cause it sure looked like if he had his eyes open, he missed some big holes (despite the plays where the OL fell asleep)?
     
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    Yeah but then again i dont think everyone playing 100% its preseason.
     
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    reads to me like the defense was encouraging Ronnie, not putting him on notice.
     
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    that is the way it sounded too...
     
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    You're wrong. :D

    Ricky was always a big bruising RB until the 2005 season. That is when he began cutting more because he lost some weight. No excuses for Ronnie. He has got to find the right gaps quickly and get in them for big gains. Miami will need him to do that, if they are going to the playoffs this year.
     
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    I read it. I didnt hear it. :tongue:
     
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    Lester Can't help it. Born this way!

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    So last year with both ricky and ronnie getting plenty of carries, behind the exact same line they averaged the exact same ammount of yards per carry. 4.4

    Please stop with the Ricky could do this and that while Ronnie just runs into people. The proof is in the pudding!

    It was great while they were both here, but they are not. Ronnie is the least of our problems.
     
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    Maybe he read it out loud.:wink:
     
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    Defense knows well.
     
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    i dont understand these threads..maybe thats why i barely check the dolphin section out anymore
     
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    Also.. With Daunte Culpepper in there as opposed to Jay Fiedler, Feely or even Frerotte.. throwing to Chambers, Booker, McMike, Welker and Hagans..
    There's no WAY the opposing defense can bring a safety up for run support without getting torched.

    It's still a team sport.. If all the parts are up to task, then all the parts win.
     
  31. dan the fin

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    Hey I will bet anyone here how many yards ricky will have behind this line. Zero cause he is in canada smoking it up. You act as if Ricky is the best ever. You say its all lock for him to get 1450 yards behind this line. Do you know how many times he has gone over 1400 yards, one time in his career. Plus he is a career 4.0 ypc RB. Ok thats not enough lets look at both RB's rookie year.
    Ricky- Rushes-253 yards-884 ypc- 3.5 td 2
    Ronnie- rushes- 207 yards 907 ypc- 4.4 td 4
    So how is that Ronnie is a bust and no good but Ricky became so great.
    I love Ricky but he is not here anymore and you can't get over that. Ronnie is as talented as any RB in the league. And yes great OL's make good RB's look great. Look at KC and Denver. Heck blaylock looked like a pro bowl player in KC and Holmes was just Ok till he got there. OL's mean so much they are the single most underated position in my mind.
     
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    I did an analysis on RB earlier this year. We all have seen what Ronnie has done this year, but going off of last year's stats, he gets stronger as the game (and year) rolls along:

    Link: http://www.finheaven.com/boardvb2/showthread.php?t=149918
     
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    Ricky may have his problems. But putting up the yards he did with the line he had was amazing. I'll give him that, the man is/was/could be again a natural
     
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    I never said what he did was bad Ricky is a great RB but that was his best year I was just saying that Ronnie is in the same class when u compare the two and that there is no way to prove that if Ricky was here he would do better behind this line then Ronnie. The original poster just says everytime that Ricky would do this and Ronnie can't it gets so old cause the same guy has posted the same B.S. in every thread about Ronnie or the running game thats all and has no proof to back up his claims at all.
     
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    i think Ronnie did great his rookie season...... this season hasnt started yet so i dont see what the problem is..
     
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    The thing I'm concerned about with Ronnie is Fumbles. He cost us one game with a Fumble last year. There's no doubt if he keeps fumbles in check and doesn't get hurt, we'll make it to the playoffs.
     
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    Ronnie has alot to prove and that is his motivation. I get toasted because I feel the same as the D and players that act like J. Allen and himself should be held accountable for their hold outs and high draft picks. That being said Ronnie has ran hard and with heart all preseason trying to never let the first guy take him down. I beleive Ronnie will be fine and shouldn't need motivation from us fans because he is the one that said he was good enough for 35 mill and a long hold out. Let him prove it or fail before we start toasting him.
     
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    I agree G-Force, we need to be supportive of him because I'm sure Saban will be the first one to let him know when he's not doing what he needs to be doing.
     
  40. Redneck Friend

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    CNC66: where on earth did i say that?

    cut and paste where i said i want ronnie to fail!

    grow up kid.

    with what we have spent on him i damn well want him to succeed.

    i just don't think he can. and i am on record as not wanting him
    BEFORE the draft.
     
  41. Redneck Friend

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    SAYODASEIN: i don't know about cut, but the guy is horrible! he has
    played like garbage in this pre season.

    the bills booted him [and they need o-line].

    i don't know why mularky wanted him so bad. very odd.

    but i think itoledo was the guy untill the injury. i think they
    just are using benny in pre to see if he can play or not.

    they already know they have a guy or two that can play the
    rt guard spot if need be.
     
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    It's obvious to everyone... you wanting him to fail I mean. You spam every thread and mention about him with your repetitive drivel. In every catagory when compared with ANY group of backs in the NFL in their rookie year he shines. YOU have an agenda and from here it appears to be hoping Ronnie Brown fails so you can get in a "told you so"

    BTW, no more "kid" stuff...I was playing tackle football on a team when you were wearing pajama's with feet in them.
     
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    EARL: did you read this article?

    i didn't write it.

    don't lash at me! i am not ronnie brown.

    now is your chance to defend him or agree with the article.

    lashing at me doesn't cure ronnies issues.
     
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    So what makes you think he can't? Was it his relatively successful rookie season, or the praise and adulation from competitors and teammates? :lol:
     
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    the article is about ronnie brown THIS YEAR and how he will produce.

    it is not about me. and i didn't write it. it is from the herald.
     
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    FINSERG: this is exactly what the article and the miami defensive players
    are saying. whatcha gonna do this year ronnie? we expect a lot considering
    your spot and pay.....

    who is wishing for him to bring "us" down? who POSTED that?
     
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    DOLFAN23: very good post! couldn't have said it better.

    MILE HIGH FIN: yes! if we went wr, i wanted braylon. if we went
    rb, i wanted cadillac williams. i said over and over BEFORE the draft
    i didn't want ronnie brown in the 1st round.

    show us all the post MILE HIGH [that name fits] before the draft
    where you posted that braylon would come in, catch a major staff
    infection [that others on the browns came down with] and that he
    would blow his knee?

    was he injured alot in college? post the proof!

    and a challenge: cut and paste the post where i said i hope ronnie
    fails! if i felt that way i would post it for sure!!

    if you can do that, cut and paste MY words, saying that i hope
    he fails, i will leave the board for good.

    can you do that? or is all this just you flappin' your gums and lashing
    out because you think i dissed your boy ronnie? got the quote ready?

    i guess we shall see huh MILE HIGH? cut and paste kid, lets see ya
    back it up!!!
     
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    I bet Ronnie does better this year than Reggie Bush. With his 200 lb. size, if Reggie doesn't have some good blocking he's probably not going to do all that well. The most talented running back in the NFL isn't going to look good if he has a mediocre or bad offensive line. The NFL is more of a team game than ever. You can't have many weak links or you won't go very far ...and that includes the 2nd and 3rd stringers too. Just look at how Belichick can get his 2nd and 3rd stringers to play at fairly high levels when one of their 1st stringers gets hurt.

    Reggie Bush has some things that Ronnie needs to work on like making those sharp cuts and getting good at spotting holes developing in the line. Ronnie has a lot of things that Reggie might never have ...like the ability to take that big hit he took in last year's KC game and then turn on the 4.40 speed and haul azz 65 yards to the goal line. Ronnie can run hard inside AND bust a big one outside with his speed.

    I bet Ronnie's actually running below 4.40 these days after his offseason training program at places like Athlete's Performance (http://www.athletesperformance.com/). I think I heard him say he was a bit leaner and trying to stay around 230 lbs. ...to get a little more speed and quickness. I heard that Rudi Johnson with the Bengals is doing the same thing. Larry Johnson is playing at 230 lbs. too.

    With a little more practice on hitting the holes, bursting at just the right times and doing some of those Reggie Bush-style cuts, I bet Ronnie's going to be a Top 5 back this year. He'll have a lot of carries this year to get good at it. He ought to be practicing his burst and sharp cuts in practice and in his back yard .... doing those 20 and 40 yard shuttle runs WITH the football, etc.

    Ronnie also ought to find somebody to throw him the ball on a regular basis to keep his receiving skills sharp. I bet Ronnie will probably be driving defensive coordinators nuts this year with his receiving skills ... I hear Daunte likes to throw to his tight ends and backs when he's getting pressure.

    I read that Darian Barnes was carrying around a tennis ball everywhere he goes to keep his hand-eye coordination and focus sharp. I think all the guys who might be catching the ball ought to be doing things like this. They should be practicing all those little details of their positions just like Tiger Woods does in golf ...getting a little better every week. A bunch of those little things done really well together can add up to BIG performances on the field this fall.
     
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    Uh, you have me confused with another poster....
    I have not brought up Braylon Edwards at all....
    Look back if you must....

    By the way, FYI - "Mile High" refers to the fact I live in Colorado (literally a mile above sea level).


    :wink:
     
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    Excellent post
     

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