Did Falcons violate "Rooney Rule"?

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  1. KyPhinfan13

    KyPhinfan13 Well-Known Member

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    I don't remember hearing that the Atlanta Falcons interviewed anybody before they hired Petrino. Did they interview Rivera? (who would qualify as a minority candidate.) Or was Petrino their first and only candidate?
     
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    miamitd13 Starter Finheaven VIP

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    I'm pretty sure they interviewed Singletary....
     
  3. miamitd13

    miamitd13 Starter Finheaven VIP

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    taken from cbs sportsline article...

    The Falcons spent the past several days interviewing NFL assistants, including Pittsburgh Steelers offensive coordinator Ken Whisenhunt, Chicago Bears defensive coordinator Ron Rivera, San Diego Chargers offensive coordinator Cam Cameron and San Francisco 49ers assistant head coach Mike Singletary.
     
  4. Finattick

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    ....Singletary, he's the new token brother that will be interviewed for every job. If I was Mike I would consider it to be a slap in the face. They did the same thing with Art Shell every year.
     
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    KyPhinfan13 Well-Known Member

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    My bad. Thanks for the correction.
     
  6. UltraDol-Fan

    UltraDol-Fan The Id

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    actually we were the ones to drag out Art Shell and he was thankful to get his name out again, I'm sure it helped him land the Oakland job
     
  7. Geforce

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    Token brother? Oh please. He has no experience as a head coach and has never been a coordinator. He's just not qualified. Besides, he cannot be the token brother when Tomlin is also getting interviewed.
     
  8. Nick13

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    does Norm Chow count as a minority candidate? havent heard his name mentioned in any of these discussions.
     
  9. Finattick

    Finattick Active Member

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    alright, bad choice of words, but you got the point.
     
  10. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan A True Fan

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    The point that you got no point? :tongue:

    Mike Singletary will be a head coach in this league. May not be this year but within the next couple years he will be. Guys a natural leader.
     
  11. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips Ready for Henne.

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    i agree he will be in several years. Its a smart move for him to get some interviews in now while he can get some practice and try to understand exactly what owners and GM's want from a head coach.

    I also wanna note, Denny green and Art Shell were both guys that went around fulfilling the quota for teams, and they both eventually got hired as well. Shell for the Raiders and Green for the cardinals. Eventually, if Singeltary is patient and works hard, he'll get a job offer too. Just like Lovie Smith, Tony Dungy, and Herman Edwards.
     
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    Actually, Dennis Green got the Minnesota job first. I think it was Shell & Green's coaching ability that opened the way for Tony Dungy in Tampa Bay and Herman Edwards in New York.
    With more experience, Tomlin and Singletary will probably be the next ones to become head coaches.
     
  13. Finattick

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    Singletary has been interviewed for a few years now, no one but Al Davis would have hired Art Shell. My point was, just to interview these guys for the sake of the rule, when you know their not even on your radar, is not fair. Shell even said after he interveiwed here that it was clear that Miami already had their mind made up. I'm not saying that guys like Tomlin and Singltary won't ever make it or don't deserve it. But I think it's clear that as of right now, no one is SERIOUSLY considering them, except for a few genius's here of course.
     
  14. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips Ready for Henne.

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    I didn't even know Tomlin was a minority. Im sure well over half this site doesnt either. Thats great.
     
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    I don't think so. Eventually Singletary should get a head coaching position, but I think he needs some more experience.

    Futhermore, it's not just "black" coaches that need to be interviewed, but "minorities," and on that count Rivera qualifies as much as Singletary.
     
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    YoMamma Well-Known Member

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    Rivera is a minority
     
  17. Da_Franchise

    Da_Franchise Dolfan

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    I am pretty sure Singletary' interviews might have more to do with him being a legend, than a minority. I doubt he is the next "token brother", the guy is a monster. He'll be a good coach with that kind of passion.
     
  18. TexanPhinatic

    TexanPhinatic I Pity the Fool

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    Singletary has built a solid rep for himself as San Frans assistant and LBs coach. I still think he needs to head a defensive unit for 2yrs or so to take that leap to HC spot, but he seems to be on the right track. Not to mention the kind of fire and enthusiasm he brings to the table.
    Like has been said, its good of him to get his name out there now, he will be taken more seriously every interview he did.
    He is not a "token" the falcons interviewed several other minority guys as well such as Tomlin and Rivera.
     
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    Also...Rivera is hispanic...that makes 2 minority interviews
     
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    dumd rule
     
  21. Jimmy James

    Jimmy James You sit on a throne of lies!

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    I really hope that whoever is the choice of the Steelers (and it looks like it's Grimm from what I have heard) gets scooped up from under them while they're busy interviewing a minority candidate to satisfy the rule.

    I say that not because I disagree with interviewing a minority candidate in many cases but because the rule goes too far in the situation where everybody knows a team is going to hire one guy. The Lions and Mooch are the perfect example. Everybody knew that's the way they were going, and the reason made sense at the time. Why punish them for failing to put on a show?
     
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    Chow is also a minority canidate.

    Can't wait for a time when a rule like this isn't necessary..........
     
  23. Slappy8800

    Slappy8800 Breathing is the hardest thing to do.

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    its not neccessary now
     
  24. Mongo

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    Why is a rule like this ever necessary? If you don't pick the best man for the job regardless of unimportant stuff like skin color you will regret it when that coach is beating your arse.
     
  25. Finattick

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    I race super late models. There are guys that I beat every week, and who have never won a race, that are getting Nascar contracts. Why??? Because they are Hispanic or Indian decent, or basically anything other than caucasion.
     
  26. Geforce

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    It's necessary because the "Good Ole Boys Club" still exist. Too many times in the past owners were recycling the same coaches, even when those coaches showed they did not have what it takes to be a head coach while other qualified candidates were stuck as coordinators.
     
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    Not trying to be a jerk, but how are people up in arms with Saban threads no longer being Dolphin related but no one complains about this one? I for one don't really care, but man are there some hypocrites on this site.
     
  28. dlockz

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    I think there is a need for the rule but Detroit was going to hire Mooch and who can blame them he was probably best coach out there. I thought the Del Rio hiring was an example where they could have possibly said there were better minority canidates than him since
    he had only been coaching for 6 years and only two as defensive coordinator of carolina. This also shows that teams are going to hire whoever they like regardless of who has this experience and such. There is also alot of age discrimination when looking at coaches because some of the older coaches get overlooked for head jobs for some of the so called young up and comers.
     
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    This kind of job is very subjective, how do you determine the best man for the job. I'm sure most old white men which own NFL teams are more comfortable hiring other white men so the rule is necessary because many black assistants were getting overlooked for jobs every year, at least now they may get thier name out there. THE NCAA is much worse and probably should try to fix thier mess, I'm sure Alabama really looked hard at some black coaches lol. There are still problems because I see guys getting hired as coaches that have put in far less time and had less success than other coaches that have never been given a chance ala Jack Del Rio's hiring in Jacksonville.
     
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    Yea Nascar does have too many black drivers for sure. I do agree with best man for the job but in the system how many minorites have been given a real chance to succeed. It's 2006 and there is not one black driver in all of NAscar, so I'm sure they would love to at least expand the sport beyond where its at.
     
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    B-LO BABY BUFFALO SOLDIER

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    It really isn't necessary at all.

    This year, seven of the 32 coaches were black; that's about 22%. Only about 12% of America's population is black.

    I wonder how the obvious token candidates feel about the rule. Last year, for instance, Buffalo interviewed James Lofton (who is a receivers coach now, but certainly not a legitimate head coaching candidate yet). I could see these guys feeling played, but they probably appreciate getting experience in interviewing too. Who knows.
     

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