Did some research. We can get as high as the 14th pick, and no lower than 17th pick.

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  1. Johnstone

    Johnstone Banned Hammered

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    I may be wrong, but I did 2 hours of research and scenarios and this what I came up with.

    Looks like we are going to picking between the 14-17, in the draft, win or lose. No higher or lower. For tiebreakers in the draft, it's all about strength of schedule. Luckily, we beat out most teams, on that. A 3 pick difference, isn't that much, I guess. The Jets and Tampa Bay, pick ahead of us, no matter what happens.
     
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    Wow thats a terrible pick lol we better get a wr in free agency, the best receiver will definitely be gone by 14
     
  3. state06

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    The top wrs in this draft dont scream elite. At this spot. A top CB or passrusher MAY still be available. This may also be a position for Ireland to take a WR like hunter Allen or Patterson or even long's replacement -_-

    Thanks for doing the work.
     
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    Where wideouts go in the draft will be dictated by their performance at the combine, as is usually the case.
     
  5. J Tes

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    There are no true top corners in this draft. The top CB is Dee Milliner and in a normal year this is the range he should go. He'll most likely go higher because this draft is void of a true top talent. I'd pass on a CB in round 1. Take one in round 2 when you have two picks and the talent hasn't dropped off that much
     
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    If the juniors come out in force there will be an extreme depth at WR in the 2nd round with quality also in the 3rd. For this reason wouldn't be surprised to see the top WR's slide. By contrast, OT and TE are thin and probably will go higher than they should, especially OT. Lots of teams desperately need an OT but this is a bad year with no depth at the position.

    We may get an offer to trade down from a team desperately seeking one of the last decent LT prospects. If we do, I'd seriously consider it, because most of the prospects that best fit the Dolphins needs are in that range, including top TE's and some of the top WR'S.
     
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    Of course that win yesterday which didn't really mean anything as far as playoffs goes hurt our draft position. If we draft 17 then the top DE's will be gone. Is this the year to draft a TE in round 1? A lot depends on what we do in free agency I guess.

    Ozzy rules!!
     
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    Queue the whiners complaining about us winning "meaningless" games.. Ugh.
     
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    There is still alot of talent in the first rounds of most drafts for us to be ok.... I would be glad with a WR,TE,CB or pass rusher.... Please no OL with the first round pick. The TE from ND would be a great pick in this range if he declares.
     
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    I'd be Ok with not going wide reciever in the First. If we pick up a solid wide out in Free Agency, then we would have a good core of recievers: Bess, Hartline, Mathews, Binn, FA. Then draft a good talented receiver in the 3rd. I would prefer to pick up a right tackle in free agency and draft a solid CB or 2 early in the draft. Mix in a TE and a LB and we have rebuild the team. I would prefer to keep Bush, Starks, Smith (as a 3rd best CB on the team; his pay should reflect that which is probably unrealistic in terms of keeping him), Hartline.
     
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    well that takes the dolphins out of the mix for one of the 3 premier pass rushers like Bjoern Werner , etc. And out of the mix for a Ray Lewis type impact guy like Manti Teo.

    And out of the upper tier of picks for EACH ROUND.


    Great job. The stench of mediocrity continues...
     
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    Best case scenario millner or one of the pass rushers.. preferably werner is available. I wouldnt spend a 1st round pick on a wr unless we trade down.
     
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    I expect them to draft for value just as they did last year. This is not a draft with a lot of elite type talent so the difference is negligible from 14-17. I wouldn't be surprised if they try and trade down unless there is a position they feel good about at their pick.
     
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    Good thing we won those last few games!!! :rolleyes2:
     
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    not to sound like a **** but knowing full well that I will, doesn't bother me. We're gonna be in the area where all the talent that I want will more than likely be there. Probably miss out on Werner and Moore, but the DE class is so deep that it's not that big of a concern. Same with the CBs, most of them are gonna be 2nd rounders.
     
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    The top WR is likely going to be Keenan Allen. 14-17 is where he is likely to go.
     
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    Only on Finheaven will you find people complaining about winning, and then on Sundays, complain that there aren't any fans in the stadium
     
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    I want him so bad. opposite Wallace.
     
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    Was going to say the same thing. No matter what the Dolphins do, there will be complaints.
     
  20. SDphinfan13

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    This may be the year to pull a bill bellicheck and trade down and get more picks for next years draft if their isnt the players we need at our spot. Although we desperately need playmakers.
     
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    Pass Rusher or Keenan Allen. Wait on CB...
     
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    Some seem to be forgetting that we have picks to trade up if we need to. If we want a top 10 guy, maybe we use those picks to get him.
    However, I believe the Philbin way is to build through the draft, and I'm ok with that.
    We can possibly go 8-8 this year. Very good in my eyes! Adding a f/a receiver and getting a TE/ from f/a or the draft is my top 2 wishes.
     
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    Yea, how dare the Dolphins win games. :bobdole:
     
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    Hopefully Keenan Allen will still be on the board when we pick, if not, take the BPA.
     
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    God I hate to see improvement out of our rookie qb, and I sure as hell dont like our team winning games - typical dolphins fan.
     
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    Thanks for the research. appreciated!!!
     
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    His research is wrong. Technically we could pick anywhere between 11th and 19th. However, the chances are very strong we pick between 12 and 15 with 14th being the most likely.

    To me there is really no difference. If you pick the correct player when it is your turn, your team will have success.
     
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    not a problem for me. tyler eifert will give this offense more power day one than anyone else.
     
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    I haven't done any research on this topic in regards to Week 17 scenarios, but are you sure the Jets and Buccaneers pick ahead of us no matter what? Right now the Dolphins SOS is .496 and the Jets are at .504 and the Buccaneers at .506. Couldn't Miami possibly get all the way up to 11 if they lose and some other things happen?
     
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    he will be gone b4 we pick count on this
     
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    I'm sorry but it takes more than just high draft picks to get better. Have you noticed that most winning organizations somehow managed to win despite not having the highest draft picks and losing organizations can go on that way for years with high draft picks?

    We need to win with what we have and get better with what we can get - that's how winners do it. Losing to get a high draft pick seldom works out.
     
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    If jake matthews is the guy than so be it. I dont recall baltimore or green bay having top ten picks every year, they seem to find themselves in the playoffs quite a bit.

    we just have to have a solid big board and trust it.
     
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    I most definitely want to win next Sunday, but if we lose I very much would like the Jets to lose also. Because, if we win OR the Jets lose, we will play Indianapolis next year. I want to beat Indy in Indy and let the Tannehill vs. Luck battles continue into year two.

    There isn't much of a difference between 14 and 17 really. All of the blue chippers will be gone and there will be quality players who fit our needs and scheme available. I'd like Philbin to start one of those long streaks of non-losing seasons. Let the tradition of the Dolphins being good under Philbin start now.
     
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    i have a feeling he will be available, given he comes with his red flags and Hunter may very well be taken before him.
     
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    Only on FH will people praise wins and then complain about draft position...

    This team needs to learn how to win - and while Brady is in the game not on the sidelines
     
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    win or lose.. who cares? at 14 or 17, it wouldnt matter which one if we had a good GM
     
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    Seems to work with the Colts.
     
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    I say trade up for T'eo. That gets us a defensive leader, more valuable than all our picks combined. Fortunately we won't have to trade all our picks to get in position to draft T'eo, but our 1st and one of our 2nd's to get him is not a bad price to pay. If for any reason we can't do that, I say we get Milliner in the first, or Jonathan Banks.
     

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