Do miami need to start drafting sec players?

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  1. fisi

    fisi A True Fan Donator

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    The SEC is by far the top conference in college football year in and year out. Occasionally there are teams from other major conferences that can compete with the SEC’s best, but it's rare.
    The fact is, the SEC is loaded not only with top collegiate talent, but top NFL talent as well.
    The conference currently has 305 players in the NFL.
    Of the 106 players in Super Bowl XLVI, 23 of them are former SEC players. The Giants have 10 on their roster and the Patriots have 13.

    There are individual teams from other conferences that produce a large number of NFL players, such as Miami, USC and Ohio State, but no conference even comes close to the SEC.

    The reason that the SEC has won the past six BCS national championships is pretty clear. They recruit NFL-caliber talent and mold them into elite players.

    Maybe this is what Miami is missing. They need to stop looking for "acorn" and unknown soldiers and start drafting to win from a winning confeerence. The Patriots haven't been wrong doing so. Lastly, one of Miami's youngest great player, Rashad Jones is a former SEC Player.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-nfl-23-former-sec-players-in-super-bowl-xlvi
     
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    How'd we do with Jason Allen and Channing Crowder?
     
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    Phinatic8u Adam ****ing Gase

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    We have one playing at a high level now.
     
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    They don't have to start drafting SEC players, what they need and Have to do is start drafting GOOD football players!
     
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    It's that simple.
     
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    Ronnie Brown?
     
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    Not neccessarily in the sense that there are good football players from coast to coast. But the SEC game is better and played faster, and all things being equal, I'd prefer an SEC guy at most positions. But you can find a running back from Boise (Martin) for crying out loud, or a qb from the PAC (Luck) or what have you. Just statistically, all things being equal, you might have better luck with the SEC guy. They are playing the best competition, at a higher speed, with better athleticism across the board.
     
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    And who was that special teams LB that Wanny just had to have? I think he went to Tennessee. Didn't John Avery, Cecil Collins and JJ Johnson all go to SEC schools?
     
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    Does Egnew count as a SEC guy now?
     
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    what's that guys name? He was the LB from Tennessee that got KO'd by some random guy in a bar in Lauderdale.
     
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    Phinatic8u Adam ****ing Gase

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    Eddie Moore.
     
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    fixed that for you.
     
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    We need to find TALENTED players from the SEC. Not the Eddie Moores, Channing Crowders, John Averys or Travis Daniels of the SEC.
     
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    Travis Daniels. Remember him?
     
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    Our fmr. Qb from Marshall, pass rusher from Akron and ss from Eastern ky are all examples that good fball players can come from everywhere.
     
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    It doesn't matter what conference a player comes from. All that matters is their talent and progress. There's other conferences besides the SEC. I wonder if some SEC fans know that.
     
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    SEC players? LOL that's all Nick Saban was drafting for Miami.
     
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    I say draft more Hurricanes...they're just natural playmakers in the NFL. Look at Miller and and Vernon for Miami now, they look promising.
     
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    Two that we drafted (Pouncey and Jones). Dansby and Burnett are SEC guys too.
     
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    We need guys who are fast and physical playmakers
     
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    Interestingly, the most recent year I could find complete numbers (2007), the SEC had 40% more teams than the Pac 10, but only had 30% more NFL players.

    The link below has an interesting story that also came from Bleacher Report. When you read the article, then account for the fact that the SEC has more teams than most every other conference, they don't look nearly as impressive.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/330841-where-its-at-the-nfl-and-the-college-conference-debate
     
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    Really hoping we scoop up Bacarri Rambo (2nd-3rd round).
     
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    I hated that wanstach didn't draft Boldin- or Brees that year. ****ing idiot. Eddie ****ing Moore with a second round pick . I think wanstach said he drafted him for ST Depth.
     
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    Mike Pouncey played at Florida.
    Reshad Jones played at Georgia, so there's another SEC player
    John Jerry played at Mississippi, so another there.
    Kevin Burnett and Tony McDaniel went to Tennesse
    Karlos Dansby played at Auburn

    If you wan to make a stretch, Tannehill, Lane and Egnew are from SEC schools, even if they weren't in the SEC during the time they played.
     
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    Wish we could get a guy like that Amarri Cooper from Bama...guy is a monster.
     
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    While this is only tangentially related, here's a really interesting post from Black Heart Gold Pants on which conferences develop their players from their expected level of play (grade when entering college) to NFL draft position. It discusses which conferences tend to develop defense/ offense better. While it doesn't say which conferences/ schools produce the best talent, the article does note the number of players drafted from each conference and their strength and weaknesses. It's something to go on rather than everyone shouting about their favorite conference:

    http://www.blackheartgoldpants.com/...ollege-programs-and-conferences-at-developing
     
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    SEC is amazing, but honeslty it doesnt matter where players come from, as long as they are good and can play!
     
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    Is this really a thread? Man we should have drafted Tim Tebow then.
     
  31. The Dawg

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    Indeed.

    Scout players based on talent and what the bring to the table.

    The Dolphins are notorious for drafting players based on emotions and media hype.
     
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    as of right now thats where most of the best players are at ,not sayin that other confrences dosent have good players , but most of the best players are coming from the SEC , Alabama , Georgia , Texas am , South Carolina , exc exc.
     
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    Do Miami need to.... WTF are the grammar police.
     
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    I'd certainly keep this in the back of my mind. Not as a guideline but as a tiebreaker. When in doubt, default to the playmaker from the premier conference.

    I remember thinking about this in recent seasons, that the Dolphins likely would have drafted much better if they simply edged toward the SEC, Pac 10 and the local Canes. I'm a big Pac 10 (now 12) booster. Underrated league. I can't believe how many easterners knock that league. The SEC certainly wouldn't win every title game if the opponent were from the Pac 12. In fact, they've been fortunate to dodge a few meetings.

    Posters in this thread are looking at this the wrong way, IMO. Instead of listing the SEC players who flopped for us, imagine if we'd slanted in that direction repeatedly. Guys we never considered might be making plays on this roster.

    As a gambler I'll often finish making all my system plays and then scan the board. If I notice three excellent teams sitting there that I have no involvement with, I'll bet them as a lot. Amazing how it will go 2 for 3 more often than 1 for 3. Same thing if three top YPPA Differential teams are sitting there, or three college teams with great pass defense. Do the right thing and you are rewarded.

    Doing the right thing excludes taking a 5th year senior running back with the second pick. Having that guy's name all but absent from this site is one of the joys of Finheaven right now.
     
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    completely agree
     

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