Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by BahamaFinFan78, Nov 27, 2017.
Want a better draft pick or want to watch wins?
I def rather win out. But I'd rather lose out then win 1 or 2 more
I would like to see certain key players improve (can't replace them all), but still lose out. We aren't going to make the playoffs anyway, so we might as well get a better draft pick for our next GM. Ok, ok, the last part is wishful thinking, but I can hope can't I?
Goodness, lose out.
Fight for a top 5 pick! Then I would trade that top 5 pick for a multiple pick deal if possible. But, our front office is going to blow whatever picks we have.
It's funny because right now I can say lose out and get a higher pick and then when I watch the game I'm rooting for the team to do well and get very upset when they don't. At this point winning a couple of games would be like getting a few complete passes in garbage time. I'm on record saying that if we get a top 6 pick then moving down for extra picks has to at least be an option but I don't trust our FO to do anything right at this time when it comes to the draft or free agency or contracts
I have spent considerable time scrutinizing the remaining schedule. If the Dolphins tank, they could possibly end up with the 2nd or 3rd pick in the draft.
If the 49ers are going to start Garropollo, they could go on a winning streak. 49ers played the Eagles as tough as anyone this year. They aren't that bad when healthy.
Giants,Colts, and especially the Bears and Broncos have plenty of good opportunities for wins.
Tampa Bay and Chicago will follow us in draft order because of strength of schedule.
Jets seem to always get so close, they will also have a couple of shots at wins.
I hope we get our *** kicked the next 5 weeks.
I can't see us drafting top 3 but drafting top 6 or 7 is very realistic at this point. SF would have to win out and that's not gonna happen so SF and the browns will be 1 and 2....Indy probably 3 and you got the giants up there too and the bears and broncos......we have to lose to the broncos, actually lose out to have a chance for the 6 or 7 spot
At this point, it’s easy to say lose out. But it doesn’t stop me from rooting for a win. It’s like being in between heaven and hell. They are very close to a top 5-7 pick and with 3 QBs expected to be drafted within the top 5, Miami is in position to have a seriously good defensive player or offensive lineman fall to them.
I want to lose out, but when I watch I want them to win. The main reason I want lose out isn’t for the draft pick. Dispite being inadequate in many areas the front office and staff will most likely get a pass and nothing will change. If we lose the next 5 games, and this roster quits and humiliates us it’s the only chance we have of drastic moves being made. I don’t mind Gase getting another year, but Mike T has to go. I also want Clyde fired and Burke demoted at best. The only chance is of this happening is 4-12 or 5-11.
I would prefer to see progress and get better each week until the season ends and win what we can in the process. It's a pipe dream to think that will happen. If we have the same **** week after week of being unprepared, eating blown out in the first qtr, lack of interest etc. I want to lose the rest of the games and not be gifted a win from a team that may be worse than us but I think we're at rock bottom anyway.
It's hard to not root for them when they play so I do want wins but lately I am disconnected by halftime on most occasions.
What does it matter? We are still going to have the same FO and I do not think Gase's ego will get in check, so nothing will change no matter where we pick in draft.
I don’t, hopefully we lose the rest of the games by 3
I want Gase to get humble, to make him better next season. Culter, JT, and Manualuga were arragant moves.
Of cause, higher picks.
You aren't getting it....The Bears play the Broncos. The Broncos still play the Jets, and there are many more games where the teams close to us in record play each other. The texans play the Colts and have other games with teams that have 3-5 wins.We have the hardest remaining schedule by far except for the Jets who have a similar remaining schedule.
And San Fran doesn't need to win out, they only need to win 2-3 to make it very interesting. Seattle is reeling with injuries and the Cardinals are well capable of losing to any team. Do not underestimate the 49ers with a good QB. They will be tough next year.
I wish Cutler would come back and play like garbage the final 5 games and have us get our butt kicked in the process. Teach Gase a big lesson.
win em all
but i won't be mad if we lose
I'll take the very short-term happiness of a win over the long-term misery of watching Tannenbaum squander a higher pick.
I voted run the table. I always want the team to win. That said, I wouldn't be surprised at all by a 4-12 or 5-11 finish. This is a bad team throughout.
I'm not sure if there is one unit that's above average on the team. I thought at wide receiver, but I'm disappointed with Parker's play. He has #1 talent, but it's not showing up often. The defensive line is overrated. I think it's an average unit with one superstar in Suh.
Drafting higher may help, but I keep reading/hearing that this is not supposed to be a good draft. I think the top talent is Barkley and the running back position is usually not valued that high. Lots of questions with the top four quarterbacks who figure to go high. I don't see an elite pass rusher. There is some nice top end talent in the secondary and pretty good depth at running back.
A 4-12 finish would be beautiful. Would set us up with a top pick.
Next week will be very telling. If the Dolphins lose to the Broncos, and the Bucs beat the Packers, the 49ers beat the Bears , and the Texans beat the Titans in somewhat of an upset, and the Giants beat the Raiders....then it's on big time.
The Bears still play the Browns and would follow us based on strength of schedule. Texans still play the Colts and the 49ers.
I tell ya, if we lose out, we will be picking very,very high.
I cannot endorse losing out to get a higher draft pick no matter how tempting it may seem. I can understand the logic behind such a scenario but that type of approach is awful. You play to win, whether it be sports, life, relationships....etc.
yes, the worse the record, the more likely we get change. lose out
This thought scares me, because of the F/O situation. I’m truly scared of all these QBs, not one of them are truly worthy of being #1 and get the feeling there is some bust potential in them. If Miami somehow picks top 3, I’d be looking to trade down for a kings ransom.
I never want to lose to the Bills and it would be fun to spoil their playoff hopes. They aren’t very good, but they are still at a much higher level of “bad” than the Dolphins.
Keep on mind people that we have no say on if we win or lose out. The team goes out there to play the games so at the end of the day it really doesn't matter what we want. I know there's no way Gase and the other coaches want to lose. What I want most is to see Gase play the younger guys which with all the injuries he might have no choice. We're going to see way more of Drake on Sunday with DW out. It'd be good to see Carroo and Gray get more snaps and actually call their number to see what they can do. Losing out will probably take care of itself the way we have been playing but I want to see what we have with the younger guys
I've been saying that all along. If we're drafting high then moving down for extra picks makes lots of sense with all the holes we have. I don't want us to move down into the 20's unless they gives us a ton of good picks to do. Lets face it, we're not one great player away. We need many good players that can do their job
Oh I totally get what you're saying but you're forgetting that if SF beats those teams that are higher than us right now then those teams stay ahead of us. You can't have it both ways. At this point there're 3 teams with a lower record than us that we might be able to draft in front of and those 3 teams are Denver, bears and colts.
At this point I have the bears going 2-3 in their last 5 games which would give them 5 wins for the yeat
I have the colts going 1-4 which would give them 4 wins so it'd depend on SOS and of course that's IF we lose out
Now the broncos have 3 wins so we must lose to them in order to have a chance to draft ahead of them.
I don't see a path for us to draft in front of the browns, niners or giants........drafting in front of the colts will be hard too. Finishing with a lower record than the colts and broncos is possible but not easy. But a top 10 pick is very likely. I just hope the FO doesn't mess that up once again
btw, this is the order that they're predicting based on the records they feel each team will end up with and SOS. They do the 10000 computer thing and of course it might not happen like this but anyway, here's their list of the top 10
Cleveland Browns (0-11)
San Francisco 49ers (1-10)
Indianapolis Colts (3-8)
New York Giants (2-9)
Denver Broncos (3-8)
New York Jets (4-7)
Chicago Bears (3-8)
Miami Dolphins (4-7)
Arizona Cardinals (5-6)
You haven't spent enough time examining the remaining matchups. There are too many games where the teams in question play each other and there has to be a winner. The only remaining game we have with a losing team is next week against the Broncos with their top ten defense. We don't have a top ten anything, pretty much bottom tier all over the place. It is not surprising that the Vegas odds makers have us as underdogs against the Broncos.
That is exactly why I would want a top pick. Trade down for more picks. Too bad we won’t have the 1st pick. Someone like Cleveland will sell their future for that. But I think a top 3 pick will be difficult with all of the **** teams this year fighting for it. Top 5 is doable.
Surely we can beat that Jets at sucking for a pick. They actually play more competitively than us.
This is just straight stupid. The Bears play the Colts and the Browns. They aren't finishing with three wins. Projecting that a team like the Broncos with a top ten defense is going to lose to the Texans,and Dolphins, and Jets, is absurd.
This projection is made up. It isn't scientific, it can't be. Somebody is just selling their website.
Next week will give a much clearer picture.
It doesn't matter, I just root for the team which has no impact on the outcome of the games. I understand losing out helps us possibly acquire elite talent but I also understand what I want doesn't matter, this is where many finheavners fail. I can't stand the folks who start the, "Meaningless Wins" or the "The Guys Who Root For The Team to Win Don't Get It" threads. I've even seen posters go as far as sort of blame fans for the wins they didn't want. I'm going to cheer how I cheer and the team is going to win or lose regardless as the 2 are not connected. I wish more fans understood this very simple concept.
Last time this board was in lose out mode everyone was upset it didn't happen. How many super bowls have the Colts won since they sucked for Luck. The way this place was acting it has to be every Super Bowl since 2012 right?.
Sad to say that I just don't care anymore. Been a fan for nearly 30 years and have never seen them in a Superbowl.
Closest they came was in '92 when they were embarassed at home by the Bills in the AFC Championship Game. Over my years following the team I have dealt with seeing the hated Bills in 4 straight Superbowls while Marino and the Dolphins were left out in the cold. I have seethingly watched the devil incarnate Patriots in 7 Superbowls winning 5 of them.
All that time the Dolphins have been between terrible and mediocre. At this point I have lost all hope and have become almost numb to the teams consistent failure.
The only silver lining that may come out of this season is a better draft spot. Since I have no faith in the people currently running the team even that potential positive leaves me with little joy.
Win win win!
Our draft history has proven that a high draft pick don't mean jack. Teams turn things around with #20 picks just as much as #1 picks.
I will never, ever cheer for this team to lose. If that's your mentality, then get your candy *** out of here and go be a Browns fan. You'll have many years of joy.
Lose out, get better draft position, draft a blue-chipper and develop the rest of your picks, get rid of Tannebaum and everyone associated with him.