Dolphins place tender on Tyler Thigpen

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  1. Nublar7

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    Smart move.
     
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    Wonder what we would get if someone signed him..pick wise.
     
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    It's smart but I doubt anyone would give up what I'm sure is a 3rd round tender
     
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    Sometimes that the point..You tender him higher than he is worth that way no one is willing to give it up.. or at least you could trade him for something..better than nothing..We gave up a 5th I would take a 5th for him.
     
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    All depends on what type of tender they put on him. It could go from no compensation with the right to match, all the way up to a first and third round draft pick.

    I am thinking for Thigpen its the original round he was picked in.

    But again, unless there is a CBA prior to the draft, no team can trade a draft pick. Besides that, if there is a lockout, no team can even bargain with him. Not sure if the guys will even sign the tenders, nothing is forcing them too because they usually have until the middle of April to sign it. By the middle of April there may be no CBA or even a Union.

    I would not sign it.
     
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    I like thigpen, but morono won't give him a chance to start. It's looking like Henne will start another season. sub 500 here we come.
     
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    Sparano gave Thigpen the start against the Bears. Thigpen melted.
     
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    And Pigpen is what 1-12 as a starter. So whats that sub 100.
     
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    Thigpen is a good QB. Henne better be careful Thigpen may be a better fit for the new offense. We can still draft a QB in case neither work out. If Henne or Thigpen workout we trade the drafted QB down the road.
     
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    That should hardly count. Sparano threw him into the fire. No Oline nor marshall for most of the game. How many times did the dolphins run that game? maybe five, six times. Plus he had 3 days to get caught up.
     
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    Thigpen with Locker learning for a year or two. I think I could get on board with that.
     
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    KC sucked that year. Brady couldn't win with that team. He put up 31 points against us (4TDs being him) and never led a complete team meltdown then. I'm not saying he's perfect but with the opportunities Henne's getting instead, he could surprise.
     
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    I think it's a good move. By the way, his outing against the Bears should not be a barometer of what Thigpen can actually do in a game. There were so many things working against him, nobody could succeed in those kind of conditions.
     
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    I give him some credit...he also faces blame for that game..He chose to check out of alot of run plays..All he wanted to do was drop back.
     
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    That was the night the entire offense melted like everyone at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark. That was the night Henning gave the backup QB with 3 days prep zero chance to be successful with his stupid play-calling. That was the night Henning should have been fired and Sparano put on notice: save the team and save yourself, or hit the road.
     
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    Sort of like Daboll in Cleveland huh?
     
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    Right on, I have many times stated if given the opportunity, and the reps in practice I think he would do well. I like the way he likes to air it out, and not always conform to checking it down.
     
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    What this move tells me is that the plan is to retain Thigpen and Henne and draft a QB sometime in the draft. Maybe they make a jump up for Netwon or Gabbert, or maybe the trade back and try and to land Kaepernick or Mallett.

    I would say any plan that involves Thigpen does not include adding another veteran like Young, Orton or Kolb.
     
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    The tender means nothing, its not guaranteed at all. They can cut him anytime they want and not have to pay anything. I seriously doubt they gave him the portion that says the salary is guaranteed, no way. They tag him fully knowing if there is no CBA nobody can even talk to him no less then match his tender trade value because there is no trades allowed with no CBA on draft day. If there is a CBA then they can still cut him or if there get a pick for him.

    The tag is meaningless even if it stands up under the new CBA. Much better then just releasing him.
     
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    If there is FA eventually, I'd rather shore up some other positions than overpay for a QB who isn't a long term solution. The teams getting better keep taking chance on the young guns until they hit on one.
     
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    Even if they do decide to keep him, the money is only 110% of what he made in 2010. Not sure of his salary but I would think its not going to break the bank so to speak. Like I my thoughts above, for the most part, tenders are not guaranteed money at all. He would not be a horrible number 3 and its insurance if they cannot grab any QB of value thru the draft or by other means.
     
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    Correction: Sparano was in the middle of a meltdown at QB and tossed Thigpen into the furnace. Thigpen melted.

    ---------- Post added at 12:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:56 PM ----------

    Let's just hope you are wrong.
     
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    If we were healthy for the Bears game we would have kicked their behinds. I said it all season, Bears had to be the most overated team in the NFL in 2010.
     
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    Worst play calling I've ever seen. They didn't protect him at all. Damn, I forgot how terrible our coaching staff looked during that game. We got bashed all week after that debacle.
     
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    Not even close.
     
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    Explain
     
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    Or Locker - I see only Gabbert and Cam going in the first round at this point..., if we trade oot of our spot for an extra pick that might be the QB there..., I would like to try and hit lightning with Cam myself - he will be a wonder in a few years
     
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    Pretty smart, I think it shows we're atleast committed to him somewhat, what does that say about Henne?
     
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    this is cool looks like we might keep thigpen afterall
     
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    Henne sucks.
     
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    I have a funny feeling this kid Locker is going to blow all the other QBs in this draft class away once he gets his feet wet in the NFL.
     
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    I thought Thigpen outplayed Henne in the preseason and in the 2 games that Thigpen came off the bench he looked better than Henne. Bears game wasn't a fair fight.
     
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    It's obvious Thigpen looks better coming off the bench, teams haven't prepped for his mobility. Give a team 3 days they have him nailed. And you really think the OLine didn't protect him? Thigpen never gave them the chance . . . he has no idea how to step up in the pocket and beat the blitz. He is a running QB . . . tendering him means nothing, we can cut him just as easily and it makes sense to keep the guy who has been around the team with a lockout zooming in.
     
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    If you think we'd be any better with Thigpen at the helm i have some beach front property in Arizona to sell you.
     
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    It's so alarming that we are such a Bro-mance with Thigpen. And we wonder why he team is in the shape it is on offense.
     
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    Dolphins place an "original draft round" tender on Thigpen

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/624917-miami-dolphins-tender
     
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    i apologize...i didnt see the other thread for this posted. Merge.
     
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    Oh i am so surprised to hear this coming from you :)
     
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    We're talkin Arizona my man, that's like asking if there are old people in Florida!
     
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    GREAT move.

    thigpen is a real good player and if given real reps in camp
    and starts with a full, healthy team, he is a star in the
    making i think.

    i doubt these bozos can make him anything but a bench
    warmer though.

    that chicago game was NOT his fault and couldnt have been
    thrown into a worse situation.
     
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    Worse situation . . . before the game people were "getting Thiggy wit it" and "Getting their Thig on". Nobody was complaining about the situation. Because Berger got hurt and Marshall played one half people act as if he was thown into this awful situation. Dan Henning does nobody favors, he ****ed this offense up all year and Thigpen was dealt a similar hand to Henne. Thank god for the defense, because that game should have been atleast 35-0. The kid gets more love than a model drunk hooker giving out free lap dances on a Friday Night. What is it? HIs 1-12 record as a starter or the fact that he has not shown that he can be effective once a team starts to blitz him.

    Henne went on the road the next week with no Marshall, still had a beat up line, and he put on a clinic . . yea Henne may not be the answer to see people continue to insist that Thigpen is a better option just seems kind of crazy. The guy sucks and once you gameplan for him he really sucks.

    That Chicago game was the worse offensive display from the Dolphins at home since, hell I can't even remember. Thigpen wasn't accurate, he took bad chances . . . he seriously lucked out because he had several passes that should have been picked off.
     
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    Or perhaps Bellicheck in Cleveland?
     
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    Miami's whole QB corps sucks.
     
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    wow. second round tender means they don't want him to leave and he'll be making more than Henne next season. He may be the starter after all.
     
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    Did you watch the Bears game? Nevermind, clearly you did not.
    Did you watch Thiggy take a single snap while in KC? Nevermind, you clearly did not.

    He has shown plenty of times that he can step up in the pocket. Anyone who's watched him play knows this. With few 1st team snaps, a pitiful gameplan and a pi** poor O-line, an athletic QB is going to fall back on instincts. His athleticism almost demands that under the aformentioned circumstances he run for his life. I don't blame the kid.

    I'm no Thiggy fanatic but I'm not so sure he can't start in this league just yet either.
     
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    Waitaminute... So if we sign him now he costs us a 2nd round pick? Am I understanding that right?
     

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