Dolphins QB of the future should be

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  1. phinphan896

    phinphan896 Pro Bowler

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    ... Billy Volek, he looked studly last year when Steve Mcnair was out and hes already in the NFL so we know hes made the transition. I think we should trade for Billy Volek. Im surprised that this name hasnt come up more.
     
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    :mad: WTF?! NO!
     
  4. phinphan896

    phinphan896 Pro Bowler

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    Why not
     
  5. tylerdolphin

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    I think he is already like 28
     
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    phinphan896 Pro Bowler

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    last year he only started eight games and had 2500 yards, we couldnt get 2500 yards the whole year last year
     
  7. wazzy

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    Hes already getting up there in age and he doesn't look like a QB that can bring us to the promise land.
     
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    I wouldent complain. We could get Billy for 2 or 3 years, draft a QB next year, let him learn for those 2 or 3 years, and put him in. Sounds like a good idea to me, Volek, Rivers or Brees are all good options.
     
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    hes a little old but hes still much younger than gus and hes got fresh legs
     
  10. SKing29

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    Well, 23Ronnie23 I live in Tennessee and seen Billy Volek play a lot last year. He looked good to me but his age I can see is a problem to some. I mean if he is 28 (I don't know), but he'd still have like 9-10 years left, but he would probably only get a couple good years. I would have like to have seen Matt Schaub picked up by the Fins, but because Vick is so injury prone in Atlanta, we will probably never have a shot at Schaub, so oh well.
     
  11. nephinsfan

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    I want to see them draft a rookie and keep Frerotte here to groom him and stuff, that way we can see if we can find the franchise QB we have been lacking since dan left.

    I dont want to see another teams second stringer starting for us year in and year out. I want our own manning/mcnabb/favre
     
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    nick1 I am Groot Moderator Finheaven VIP

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    David Garrard is a guy who most people overlook but he could be a good starter for any team but the Jags are just wasting him by sitting him, I'm not saying he is better than Leftwich but he is good and the Jags could trade him for something good
     
  13. Maynard the Hammer

    Maynard the Hammer you are the nail

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    i really dont care who it is, as long as he gets the job done. i think its pointless to root for one guy over another
     
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    No more trading for backups.
     
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    AMEN!
     
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    gator_sensation Pro Bowler

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  17. Marino2DuperTD

    Marino2DuperTD Welcome Back Ricky

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    :shakeno: :rofl3: :lol: :eek: :confused:

    There is a reason his name hasnt come up

    :lol: :rofl3: :eek: :confused: :shakeno:
     
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    i'll take volek over 90% of the other names people toss around here. young, jacobs, brock berlin, aaron brooks, kitna, rivers, simms....
     
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    If you're thinking of keeping a QB for only 2 or 3 years, why wouldn't you just keep Gus? He already has a grasp of the system, and can only get better. Why bring a new guy, have him go through the growing pains, only to replace him when the QB stud is ready? Gus will be adequate to manage our games until his successor is ready.
     
  20. finswin56

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    It wouldn't bother me, but the Titans aren't letting him go w/ McNair's impending retirement.
     
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    billy volek is set to replace steve mcnair when he retires at the end of this year or next. he is off the market. why would the titans get rid of their heir apparent
     
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    the titans could very easily get the #1 pick this year, forcing a reunion of matt leinart with norm chow
     
  23. finsrule84

    finsrule84 Haha, charade you are!

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    NO MORE BACKUPS! draft Omar Jacobs
     
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    ironic because jacobs will be no better than a backup in the NFL
     
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    Good point. I dont think they get the number 1 but that is the only scenario I could see where they might consider it
     
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    he is happy with the Titans because he will have the job soon, why would we want a 28 year old QB? we want a future QB not one who will only last 5 years max
     
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    the only QBs who might be availabe through trade we should look at are as follows: Philip Rivers, David Garrard (the best choice in my opinion), and Patrick Ramsey (I wouldn't take him but he is an option)

    personally I would draft someone, my choices would be: (in no particuar order) Matt Leinart, Drew Staton, Omar Jacobs, Charlie Whitehurst, Vince Young, Brodie Croyle, and Marcus Vick

    there's some other draft prospects but those are the well known ones
     
  28. chrome4

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    I second that.
     
  29. dolfanrodney

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    no friggen way period
     
  30. jlfin

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    Rex Grossman might be available if Orton shows promise the rest of the year.
     
  31. Nappy Roots

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    are some of you really saying you dont want him cause hes 28 instead of a rookie that wouldnt be able to contribute till he was prolly 25-26?

    i dont give a **** how old he is, if he can play the QB position good for us and win us football games im all for it..

    i havent watched Volek to much, but i can tell u this, he throws a great deepball.
     
  32. HybridPHIN 23

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    Volek is a QB for RIGHT NOW !!!! We want someone who'll be in his prime over the next 5 years.
     
  33. nephinsfan

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    EXACTLY!
     
  34. dakast

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    I think we should draft a QB... In no particular order Reggie McNeal/Omar Jacobs/Vince Young
     
  35. Nappy Roots

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    yea so does everyother team. their not easy to come by. if you got someone that can give u 3 good years and help you win, you take it. specially when u havent had a decent QB in 5 years.
     
  36. Marino2DuperTD

    Marino2DuperTD Welcome Back Ricky

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    :lol: The guy cant stay on the field. NO WAY
     
  37. DeathStar

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    he is the back up to mcnair in tennessee.

    no way they let him go.

    he is very cheap.

    people, RESEARCH BEFORE DOING DUMB THREADS.
     
  38. DeathStar

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    and you guys seem to love other people's trash for qb's.

    the only backup i would consider is rivers.

    if the chargers choose to entertain a trade after this season, we should offer our low first round pick + a future 2nd or 3rd on 07 to get this kid. i say low cause we are going deep in playoffs.
     
  39. enigmatics

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    Wait wait wait...........Billy Volek is going to play in the NFL until the age of 38? Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :shakeno:
     
  40. marino1348

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    Volek is very fresh and very good. He can throw the deep ball 10 times better than mcnair.If the dolphins wanted him they could have signed him a year ago , or gotten him with a 7th pick before that. Just because a player has success on another team doesn't mean the dolphins should try and get them.
     
  41. rickd13

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    Just because the previous regime made the mistake of trading for the wrong backup QB does not mean trading for a backup QB from another team is not a viable option. Do not forget that the likes of Matt Hasselbeck, Jake Delhomme, Marc Bulger, Mark Brunell, and Aaron Brooks were all backups for other teams before they made a name for themselves. In fact, if this staff thinks that they indentified the right guy, I would prefer taking this route. Let another team develope the guy, than take him away when he is ready to play. Otherwise, if you take a QB early in the draft you feel obligated to play him so he can take his lumps and develope as fast as possible. If you do this, than you are in the same predicament the Bills are in. A team that is built to try and win now but a QB that needs a few years to get up to speed. On top of that, odds are 50/50 that the guy even pans out anyway. I don't mind the idea of taking a QB in the draft, but you have to do it knowing that you are going to have to wait on the guy before he is ready to play. That is why I would be in favor of taking a QB later in the draft. No big signing bonus for someone who is going to sit on the bench.
     
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    All I care about is the QB's style of play. I want a guy who plays like Peyton Manning, NOT a guy who plays like vick. NO slash guys. I want this team to have a REAL QB, not an "athlete" who can't hit the side of any barn, the right one or the wrong one, with his passes.

    Rivers or Ramsey... or make someone an offer they can't refuse for Leinart.
     
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    :yeahthat:

    You literally took the words directly out of mouth. I COULENT agree more man, you hit that right on the spot, perfectly said.
     
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    I may be wrong, but isn't Volek 29 instead of 28 and will be 30 april of 2006? Someone correct me if I am wrong. If that is true, that means if we got him in the offseason we would be bringing him into camp next year as a 30 year old who has never been a full time starter anywhere? Would we really want to do that?
     
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    What is wrong with Qb who has mobility? I really wonder why people don't like Mike Vick as a Qb, is it because with him the Falcons are one of the best teams in the league and without him they're awful? Donovon McNabb can run, Steve McNair won an MVP and is mobile, but those guys would not fit your criteria for a Qb? I would like a pass first/run second Qb, I think that is what McNabb and McNair are, but being able to run is not a liability it's an asset.
     
  46. kastofsna120

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    mcnabb has been a lot better lately than in previous years, and he rarely runs at all now. he figured it out. i don't want a quarterback who can run better than he can pass, period. that doesn't mean i don't want a QB who can pass AS WELL as run (mcnabb, culpepper), i just don't want a QB who isn't even a QB
     
  47. LightsOut

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    wait. so you'll take patrick ramsey but not mike vick? lol.
     
  48. studsatele

    studsatele Starter Super Donator Donator

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    man forget mike vick. until he proves hes actually a QUARTERBACK. imo hes the best throwing runningback in the league. he doesnt seem to have any leadership skills. he seems like he cant handle it if he has to make a desicion and if he does make one its run. nothing against being mobile, but i want qb who doesnt crumble if the other team does something unpredictable. i mean jeeze. look at last years nfc championship. the eagles didnt blitz. thus severly limiting his running lanes and he CRUMBLED. jmho. mcnabb on the other hand. i beleive it was 4th and 26. showing he could handle pressure. i think vick is a great athlete. but qb is more than athletic. you might just have to think. hmmmmm.
     
  49. djfresh47

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    Vick took his team to a national championship game, won a playoff game in his first year as a starter at Lambeau, and can't handle pressure? The criticism of Vick is ridiculous, I think he's more valuable to the Falcons than Manning is to the Colts. Look at the falcons record with him, and without him, Vick is not the greatest passer, but he is a great football player.
     
  50. Nappy Roots

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    good post. i hate to even enter the Vick discussions because i get mad.....so ima leave it with that.
     

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