Dolphins' Releases/Re-structures??

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  1. fisi

    fisi A True Fan Donator

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    The Dolphins will look to re-structure some contracts and add to their cap space this offseason, along with cutting some players. A good place to start is with one main player: Karlos Dansby. Karlos Dansby has around an $8M cap hit for 2013, and that will likely be non-negotiable. However, his cap hit takes a jump straight to $11M for 2014, the last year of his contract. That is a very high number for an aging LB. On the other side of Karlos Dansby is Kevin Burnet who signed a Signed a four-year, $21 million contract. The deal contains $9.8 million guaranteed. His 2013 salary is $4.35 mil. He could be a cap casualty also.

    Another player is Richard Marshalls. Marshalls Signed a three-year, $16 million contract. The deal contains $6 million guaranteed, including a $3.5 million signing bonus. His 2013 numbers are$4.55 million. Richard Marshall has to be considered a major dud for Jeff Ireland as he was the Dolphins primary acquisition. Dolphins placed CB Richard Marshall on IR after the fourth game of the seson. He wasn't very impressive when playing and the injury has plagued his season.

    Another intriguing player is Dimitri Patterson. Patterson was only acquired off of waivers by Miami on 12/18 but played the entire game this past week. Patterson was a player the Dolphins liked before he signed a three-year deal with Cleveland in the off-season. Now that they have him, Miami may choose to look elsewhere in free agency and the draft. The journeyman may have to restructure his contract as he's set to earn $4.5 million in 2013, but he has a chance to stick as a starter or third corner in Miami. Sean Smith is an impending unrestricted free agent and Nolan Carroll/Jimmy Wilson have struggled. With Sean Smith being a free agent, he certainly would control another $4-$5mill easy. The question now is do the dolphins want to pay three corners five million a year?

    Kevin Burnet Lb $5,700,000 mill

    Dan Carpenter K $3,000,000 mil

    Ritchie Incognito OL $5.3 mil

    Rishard Marshall CB $5.7mill

    Karlos Dandby LB $8.5mill

    Dimitri Patterson CB $5mill
     
  2. ITS!MATEO

    ITS!MATEO A True Fan

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    I can't wait to see some athleticism at our linebacker position and would love to see Dansby traded this offseason. He isn't worth what we're paying him and he isn't quick enough, period. Burnett needs to have some competition for his spot next year with some draft picks.
     
  3. So Be

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    When a player is cut, his contract is voided, not picked up by the signing team.
     
  4. Oraclepz

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    I believe that's only true if he clears waivers.. If some one claims them before he clears wavers they pick up the contract
     
  5. DeathStar

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    Dansby is not worth that money..
     
  6. jc4005

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    Cutting Dansby just creates another hole. Not gonna happen. Then you carry dead money against the salary cap.
     
  7. traptses

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    Oh yeah. Cut Dansby and Burnett. Because we clearly have better options on this team
     
  8. The Omen

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    Kevin Burnet Lb $5,700,000 mill - Should Restructure

    Dan Carpenter K $3,000,000 mil - Needs to be cut... I was a fan of his, but not anymore. as a matter a fact he should give some of his salray back to the fans this year

    Ritchie Incognito OL $5.3 mil - See ya, I like his play, but not for that price. Pro Bowl alternate or not

    Richard Marshall CB $5.7mill - See ya! his track record in AZ made him worth the price, his play this year needs to get him fired.

    Karlos Dandby LB $8.5mill - Restructure, but if he doesn't we can live with this number fo 2013... but something needs to happen with his 2014 salary

    Dimitri Patterson CB $5mill - Kinda hard to say here, I don't see paying a cut CB from Cleveland $5mill a year, but that is fair market Value for a #2/3 starting CB in the league.
     
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    Cut two really good linebackers and change the heart of the defence?
     
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    Incognito, Burnett, and Dansby's contract are not that bad for 2013.
     
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    Dansby is a big time LB. People do not respect his game enough.
     
  12. finitis23

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    We can't cut Dansby this offseason unless we want to carry dead money on our cap, which makes no sense because I would rather be paying him to play on our team at the level he's playing at right now rather than be paying him to not be playing for us at all lol... Save all your "cut Dansby" talk for next offseason when it makes more sense.
     
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    Dansby is what they call a "War Daddy". He comes to play every week. Home or away - he does what he was brought here to do. It would be great if he would restructure to bring in help at other positions.
     
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    There's not a chance Dansby neither Burnett restructure. They are both above-average starters and we already have a ton of cap-space. Better wait in 2014 in their last year...
     
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    Richard Marshall will be a fine #2 CB. He played hurt, cut him some slack.
     
  16. dlockz

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    Richard Marshall played one season in AZ not really a track record, his career as a starting cb in Carolina should have prevented us from overpaying him.
    That Patterson is such a good starter they cut him before the first season was done on his newly minted contract lol

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    Interesting in how for most of his career he has not been good as a number 2. He damn sure wasnt good here this season

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    I doubt many people will restructure esp knowing we have cap space, I mean I would like to hear that pitch.
     
  17. finfanaz

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    cutting dansby is insane.. hes our leading tackler I believe. whats up with people on this forum wanting to cut the captains of our team that are producing at a high level? lol
     
  18. The Omen

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    ugh, i meant to type AZ and Car. this is what happens when you type fast and don't proof read... prior to this year Marshall played in all 16 games a season since his rookie year. His play prior to this year justified his contract, now that he's injuried and didn't appear to be picking up the system fast enough, it isn't!
     
  19. dlockz

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    He wasnt a good corner in Carolina and thats why AZ got him for basically nothing
     
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    Kevin Burnett is playing like a top 5 OLB in the NFL and you think he's going to be a cap casualty? There's just no way around this but honestly you're insane. What the hell are you talking about?

    I'm stunned. Absolutely stunned.
     
  21. dlockz

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    Burnett has played well but he hasnt played top 5 in the NFL. Im sure u can easily name 5 guys better than him
     
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    dansby has been a bosss...the glue that keeps that defense together and where they are supposed to be.

    burnett while decent against the run, can't even run with scott chandler... he's terrible in coverage. I think the only coverage he did decent in last week was against buffalos fullback....

    he could be upgraded for sure. but he is good depth if nothing else.

    I can easily name five OLB's better than burnett... that comment was just silly.
     
  23. The Omen

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    Marshall, was brought it primarly to push Vantae and Smith for a starting spot or at the very least be our nikel back... 3 years for 16 mill is a decent price tage for a #2/3 CB... considering Eric Wright who was ranked 4 spots under Marshall by CBS' top 100 FA of 2012 got 5yrs/37.5mill http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/transactions/free-agents/position/RB?&_1:col_1=3&_1:col_2=1The Fins played it smart on his contract, if he doesn't catch on, cutting him won't cost much....
     
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    you cut incog and let long walk you better be ready to draft OL early.
     
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    In 2012, for 4-3 OLBs, Burnett has played at a top 5 level. 100%. Will he be top 3 next year? Odds are, no. But you have to stick with the hot hand, and to sit here discussing cutting him as a cap casualty when we have the 3rd most cap room in the NFL is absolutely ridiculous

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    All due respect, you don't know what you're looking at then. It's that simple.

    Burnett has played at a top level. If you don't believe me, maybe you'll believe Pro Football Focus, which has him as the 3rd best OLB in the AFC through week 17??

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/12/19/pro-bowl-roster-2012-afc/


    "quality depth"?? holy moly.
     
  26. dlockz

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    again with PFF, and u said top 5 olb's and Im not sure he would take him as one of the best 4-3 lb's either. he has played good.
     
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    The smart thing would have been to spend that money elsewhere like on Reggie Wayne. Its ok for a 2nd cb but for a nickelback its stupid money but he is now a starter just not a very good starter and never has been.
     
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    I'll take my eyes and PFF over most if not all but 3 armchair GMs on FinHeaven every single day of the week. Not calling you one at all, just explaining why I use those numbers.

    I'm confused by the rest of your post though. I did say top 5 OLBs, which... he is currently ranked. So.... there you have it I guess? The remainder of your post - I can't understand it so I can't reply to it. I agree with you that he's played well though.
     
  29. dlockz

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    I was saying I would not take him as one of the best OLB in a 4-3 either but he is doing a good job. My problem with PFF is that people use this as gospel and there is sometimes more than pure stats breakdown to a player. I mean some people have acted like Dmitri Patterson is a good db just because of some ranking on PFF but in reality the team that signed him doesnt just piss away money cutting him in the first year of a contract if he is playing well, or giving a rookie 5th rounder his spot
     
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    Richard Marshall could go to FS if you do not want Clemons back...I would try to sign Clemons and can Marshall or Patterson at the end of camp.
     
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    better have someone better to replace them, if not why make the team worse. i understand carpenter and patterson but those other guys arent going to restructure
     
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    for the life of me cant figure out why we picked up Patterson's contract i do think if we keep him it does drive up price of Smith. His logic would be Patterson makes 5, Marshall makes 6 so therefor I should make at least 9
     
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    well the issue with Patterson restructuring he is in the first year of his contract so its more financially beneficial to get cut then resign at highest bidder, kind of double dipping
     
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    Cut Carpenter and sign a college free agent kicker.
     
  35. maralieus

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    I dont think many of you are giving Marshall a fair shake. He came in and beat out Vontae (I know not sayin a whole lot) for the starting job, I thought he made some good plays and some bad, but he was playing with a hurt back for what, 2 of 4 of his games? I think they keep him, Smith and Patterson. The D has really played well as of late, keep some continuity, the secondary IMO has played well enough that we can just add one veteran to compete and run with it. I'm more worried about what they're gonna do with Starks and Long.
     
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    His logic would be wrong, if Marshall is worth 6, then Smith is worth 6. Smith is a classic "potential" guy. I would love for him to prove me wrong, I just doubt it will happen.
     
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    I really liked what I saw out of Patterson last week for coming in on short notice. In my opinion,this will be his tryout today versus a huge test in Baby Brady and company. If he has a solid outing,I'd like to see him here next year. You can never have to many quality corners in a passing league.
     
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    Picking up Patterson's contract cost up $340K this year. Next year is not guaranteed, and will cost nothing if he is cut.
     

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