Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by TheJetsBlow, Sep 11, 2017.
Suck it up buttercups..turn this negative into a positive....make it a motivation!
NFL owes us a favor now.
Not a shocker. All about that money.
IMO, I think in the long run this year will be good for us. It will be character building and also help us develop our talent because our backups are going to have to play meaningful minutes even if the starters are healthy.
After watching yesterday and Thursday I think we have a chance. While there was some good there was a lot of incompetence out there. We need to make sure we're not part of the incompetence and we'll be fine.
I applaud them for trying though. At least there won't be any what ifs....
No way in hell the NFL was going to give up that cash cow.
I was all for this move. Upon further reflection, it would have screwed too many people in terms of real dollars. Most flights are not refundable.
Screw the NFL. Goodell would have gladly done it for his buddy, Kraft. But hey, I guess bringing money into a region devistated by a hurricane is less important than keeping your London dream alive.
I'm proud of Ross for asking... and for going public with the request and the league's rejection of it.
I'm sure Commissar Goodell would have preferred all of this had remained behind the scenes. By publicizing the request, it renders it damn near impossible for the league to make any kind of concessions to its higher profile teams without it smacking of hypocritical preferential favoritism. It also publicizes the plight of the Fins who officially have more hardships to overcome than any other team through no fault of its own... to the point where downroad, should an iffy consideration arise, the Fins may receive the benefit of the doubt.
Well played Mr Ross!
Not like we could use a small break or anything
Better see some favorable zebra action, then.
Ross ain't Kraft so there you go. Hope Goodell just retires. He i
Absolutely, Goodell and Kraft run the NFL. He definitely would've changed it for his Pats.
I knew it wasn't a possibility, but I respect Ross even more now for asking and going public with the results. He has proven himself to be a great owner over the past week. Really has his players best interest at heart.
I'm one that didn't want the game moving being in the UK. But I totally understand why he asked and most certainly cant blame him for asking, I feel for the people of Florida and pray that people have got through this time. Do I feel that it should have been moved my answer truthfully would be no but that's just because I don't get that much chance to see them play (obviously the 3 times they've been previously and ive been to Miami 3 times to see them). I do feel that the NFL have to do something though.
When is the last time NE actually played a London game? I'm sure they have but I can't think of any appearances overseas by them in recent years.
Like Green Bay did yesterday vs Seattle
goodell is too wrapped up in globalism and multiculturalism to help a franchise that NEEDS a break in the worst way. I am shocked but NOT surprised.
Here the Dolphins and people of south Florida are, AMERICANS, and he is worried about politics and $$$. Just means he is a dirty money money-grubbing hypocrite, as if the world needed more of them.
He will probably move that super bowl OUT of Miami since Ross publicized the decision. And kraft, belicheat and brady will sit back and laugh about it.
They've played in London as the road team Vs the bucs (2009) and Rams (2012). Miami and Jacksonville are the only teams to play In London at least 3 times. After this year Miami would have given up 4 home games to London.
I can't stand Roger Goodell.
So wrong. 4 home games in London? Talk about getting the shaft. And the Pats only 2 games there w no home games given up? Why am I not surprised.
Hopefully Ross remembers this next year when they ask us to give up a home game AGAIN.
I like that Ross outed the NFL for their douchebaggery.
Oops I meant Miami will have played 4 times in London after this season with 3 of those games being home games. Miami was the road team vs Oakland in London.
I understand the NFL's position, but I think the league needs to rotate these London/Mexico games.
As a Dolphin fan, I feel like my team has had its fair share. You don't see the big market teams making the trek and that just isn't right.
As far as this year goes, the NFL could help Miami out a bit by rescheduling its Thursday game for a Sunday or Saturday. That seems like an easy fix and at least alleviates one short week game for a team that now has to play 16 straight.
Some people seem to think that the only fans that matter are American fans? Guess what I put as much money if not more into the Dolphins franchise as Miami based fans. I am not happy that they are playing 16 straight but to say just cancel a game people have bought tickets for (not to be replayed by the way) is just ignorant.
I understand the stance of the Dolphins Franchise and to make things easier for the team, but fans saying well these London games Blah , Blah Blah is becoming very tedious. As a Dolphin fan of 30 years I have as much right to see them as the next man.
They agreed to the London games and got a Superbowl out of it they also got in the books for being the first team to play a season game outside America etc. so please don't just dismiss the London games as its also more chance of gaining fans than playing just in Miami.
If it would be to save the travelling then I understand but these guys fly to California which is 2.5 hrs less flight than London? So 5-6 hrs more travel time in a week, thats like me driving to a job for work.
I'm not complaining and would have taken any decision made but BS posts about London games are starting to really grind on me by people that have no thought for other fans or the team they just need something to whine about.
I'm think that 1) Miami paid its dues in 3 gamed already played in London soon to be 4. 2) while yes I ackowlege there are Miami fans in London I'm certain there are far more in the City of Miami and that the people of London could give a **** who plays as they just want to go to an American Football Game and 3) now Miami has 16 straight games and only 7 home games and a trip to the west coast and London which has never happened to an NFL team.
So yeah I'd say Miami earned a concession from the League but not in Baddell's eyes the only thing there is $$$$$$$$$$
Obviously if the game would have been moved people would have been refunded. I get your position, but I don't think it's really fair to say you have as much "right" to watch the MIAMI dolphins in London as you do people who live in Miami. I think you should be a little more sympathetic to both the local fans, and also what's best for the team.
I don't think people would be bitching nearly as much if this wasn't our 4th time including 3 home games.
Meh was never going to happen. Especially only a few weeks away from the game and after all the tickets, hotels, sponsor events, cross atlantic flights (half the fans at these games seem to be American) etc have already been booked
Personally im not even going. The last two cost me hundreds each time (need to book flight, hotels etc) and I just dont have the money two weeks after a holiday in spain and a few months before christmas
Only the cost of the ticket. If you dont live in London the ticket is probably the cheapest part.
I dont actually disagree with you, i dont like the international stuff much, but if it had been cancelled at this point a lot of fans coming from the US, Europe and even across the Uk would have poured hundreds of dollars down the drain for nothing. And that certainly isnt fair either.
I met fans at the last game who spent well over a thousabd dollars flying to London for the game... refunding them for a 30 quid ticket may not have made them feel much better
Oh ya I agree on the travel part , which is definitely why there was never any chance of this being moved. But the poster seemed to be from London himself, so that wasn't the issue that he was talking about.
I have to agree with the 2 above posts its not the price of a ticket that's the issue. People spend a lot of time and money planning holidays (vacations) to come from all over the country and Europe. I have no issue with it being the 4th time and agree 100% that its not fair that 3 have been home games when there are teams that haven't even travelled. (Every team should have been made to play a game then it wouldn't affect individual teams as much) This also shows to me how popular the Dolphins are in the UK and Europe that's a big positive for the Dolphins Franchise.
To give you some sort of indication of costs.
This is coming just 300 miles from where I live to London
Ticket for my family is £150 (yes would be refunded)
Petrol for travel £80-£100 travelling on the Friday so to see any build up on Saturday.
3 nights Stay £300 - £400 (non refundable)
So the cost to me roughly just travelling and watching no food or drink included is roughly £530 - £650 ($700 - $860) of which I would lose (around $530) so that's why it wouldn't be right. times that by 80,000 people = $42,400,000 a lot of disgruntled fans.
I also agree that it would make things easier for the team but to say think of the people of Miami well at this time I feel for the people of Miami and all of Florida but if you think having that extra home game makes any difference to what has happened then I'm a bit surprised.
Also agree that the Dolphins deserve a concession but to try and cancel a game 3 weeks before its played when people are travelling as far as they are is not that concession. They need to re think the schedule and make any changes they can but again I fail to see the massive implications it would save to cancel the London game.
NY8123 to say the UK don't care who they see just about sums it up (All this well they just want to see a game is rubbish the majority of people going to the games already support a team and have done for many years) There are several things that have not happened before, teams not getting a bye after London trip etc.
I am not trying to cause arguments but just get a little ****** off when people dismiss the UK and European fans as though they don't matter.
The ONLY people that have suffered are the people of Miami and Florida with Irma that is true, but to change the London game changes none of that at all, it would make a difference to the players to play in Miami granted but they already knew this was happening and the travelling is no different.
Disadvantage yes I think we have that with 16 weeks but I tell you what lets see how the team responds for the fans in Miami and lets hope they get to 9-0 or 8-1 by the bye week and take a week off at their own choice against one of the remaining teams GO FINS !!!!!!!!
They matter for selling tv rights. Nothing else. That is the only thing that matters to the NFL
Id have a ****ing fit if United home games were ever moved out of Manchester. I support the Miami Dolphins, if they happen to play in London I will turn up, but I accepted a long time ago I would need to go to Miami to watch the Dolphins.
And the idea of a London team is moronic.
But they have agreed to come here to help themselves get a Superbowl, they don't have to but if they want something they have to give something. I would love to be able to go to Miami every year but I cant have been 3 times and seen them here 3 times. In 30 years its not enough so the more chance I get to see them is a bonus.
And 100% agree with the London team being moronic.
I don't want a team over here I AM A DOLPHIN FAN!!!!!!!! and a London team would not change that