Dolphins Talking trade with KC for Alberts?

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  1. ncmedic5

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    According to some rumors I am hearing out of KC, the Dolphins have inquired about Tackle Brandon Albert. He was tagged by KC so the Dolphins would have to likely work out a long term deal. Someone a short time ago posted that Mortensen reported the Phins had an offer on the table to K.C. I can't confirm that yet. Regardless, there was talk this morning that the Phins would try and replace Long in FA instead of waiting until the draft.

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  2. kvado16

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    Ah damn it, what's wrong with the guys in FA.
     
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    John Clayton just said Miami might offer a 2nd round pick for Albert.
     
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    Wants too much $$$$
     
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    Chris Mortensen also said the same thing.
     
  6. Ryan1973

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    I would rather them sign a free agent tackle or draft one. I hate giving up draft picks. They need all the picks they can get.
     
  7. ncmedic5

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    I would rather it be a third and a player instead. Those 2 2nd rounders are really going to be valuable. KC knows the market for OT's right now sucks so if a team is willing to take him, then they should be willing to do it at a better bargain. Albert isn't going to want to move to RT and teams know that. KC can't afford to pay Albert LT money to play RT either...and teams know that as well. IT's not a sellers market this year.
     
  8. me4mvp

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    Chill
     
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    Is the guy any good?
     
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    Would make sense. But why can't we just draft a tackle ourselves?
     
  11. artdnj

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    Is he any good? I frankly don't know much about him. Any KC followers on the board that can provide a point of view.
     
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    good player from what i know of him, for only a second round pick are you really going to get a better linemen in the draft..? id be all for it seeing as we don't have the best track record anyways with 2nd round picks, guess it just depends on which pick and how much money dude thinks he is worth
     
  13. traptses

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    I'd much rather trade a 2nd for him, than use a 1st on a OT. When's the last time an offensive lineman won you a game? Tavon Austin or CB please
     
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    if its only a 2nd then i dont see a better tackle that we could get in the draft with that 2nd rounder but i am worried about the contract he will demand
     
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    I threw this idea out in a thread earlier today and everyone cried about it. The Walrus or something threw a fit... I like Albert and love keeping Martin at RT. It is an option, #2 seems a little steep and of course the money has to be right.
     
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    Fills a big hole and leaves us with a first and second pick providing hes a beast
     
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    interesting
     
  18. WestSideFin

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    If we could land him we should. His contract can be a 1st year friendly deal. So we really would not even take that big a a cap hit right away. I would give a 3rd for him but dam a 2nd thats a lot but maybe not for a all pro LT. This is very interesting but not sure how real it is. Clayton and mort touched on it so thats good .
     
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    the guy is on the same level as long if not better. i think he wants more money then jake but nobody in the draft is better then this guy and for a second rd pick its awsome but the chiefs tagged him and he is set to make 9 million just this year alone so i think he will demand to much flow.
     
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    with all these first year friendly deals, i cant imagine what our cap situation will be next year
     
  21. me4mvp

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    How about bess and a 4th
     
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    Still investing picks and big money into building an offensive line I see.

    Rinse and repeat
     
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    Carl Peterson draft pick btw.
     
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    Bess and a fifth and im in!
     
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    Should they just ignore the offensive line?
     
  26. Jay131866

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    If he is looking for Jake Long type money, why didnt we just pay Jake more and save our draft pick? Makes no sense to me. And if one of the top 3 tackles falls to us at 12, they will likely be better players than Albert and cost MUCH less. But not sure if one of them drops or not.
     
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    I wondered if something was up when Albert signed his tender.
     
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    My thoughts too. Good player but wants a ton of money. Money that could be spent more wisely.
     
  29. Blake the great

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    I hope we can make it happen. Some of guys are like little girls when it comes to trading draft picks, geez. Draft picks are so freakin overr rated, when's the last time we drafted a prow player after the 1st round? Albert is a proven player, and would fit nicely. And its not as easy to just "draft one" Lane Johnson would be the best fit but he would be likely gone by the time we pick. And a freakin LT isnt worth trading up to get, then we are using essentially two picks on a LT. I dont know why finheaven thinks 2nd round picks are like precious diamonds that we cant let go, it's not like we draft talented players in the 2nd round anyways, plus we have two 2nd round picks anyways.
     
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    You cant have a plan based on hope. Hope that one of the top tackels will fall to us isnt a smart move, and trading up isnt either cause then we are using pretty much two picks for a freaking o-lineman
     
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    I don't see another alternative. We need a LT and he's the best on the market.
     
  32. AlphaPHIN

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    They just spent a high draft pick on Martin last year. Move him over and draft a RT in the 3rd or 4th round. I know, it would actually mean properly evaluating and hitting on a mid round pick. But enough with investing high picks AND money in offensive linemen.
     
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    I think the market is set actually. He can want a ton of money, but he is not going to get it a year later.

    ---------- Post added at 05:28 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:27 PM ----------

    That is a reckless approach on your part.
     
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    Alternatives are drafting one, keeping Martin as our LT or signing a more reasonably priced free agent like Winston. Making our left tackle one our highest paid players is not a goal we should look to aspire too.
     
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    The biggest hurdle here is the money. Albert may be better than anyone we would get with a 2nd rounder, but he is a helluva lot more expensive as well. He is going to want a redone contract in the neighborhood of 8 million per season and around the same 16-20 mill range guaranteed. That's a lot of money to spend on a second round pick. Moving a 3, 4, or 5 off-sets that a little bit but not by much.

    The ideal move would be to move Martin to LT, draft a LT in rounds 3 or 4 and sign Eric Winston to a deal around 3 mill per season.
     
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    i agree martin at LT AND a 3rd rounder at RT.. yikes
     
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    That would make me very nervous if I'm Ireland. I wouldn't trust Martin at LT.
     
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    Everyone should realize that there is a reason KC franchised him. He's really good.
     
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    The problem is that Ireland has been so bad at building our line over the years through the draft or free agency that it does terrify me to have to rely on him on selecting an unknown. So it is a dilemma. Overpay the known quantity, or trust a very spotty record of drafting one.
     
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    So why not just pay Long a little more and save your pick? I'm not saying we should wait and hope for a lineman to drop, but I was explaining to an earlier poster what the advantage would be. Could be a better talent at a fraction of the cost.

    And i agree I would not trade up either
     
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    you realize that the draft is a crap shoot right? you think we could draft someone better in the 2nd round? I dont think so, just look at our history
     
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    Albert would be fine and I think a better player than Long at this point.
     
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    Thats great, I have no problem giving up a second rounder for him, either. MY problem is giving Jake Long money to a 28 year old whos never been to the Pro Bowl. I'm no ckparrothead but I would imagine this guy is going to cost a pretty penny. Why not just retain Jake if we are going to spend 8-9 milly on a tackle?
     
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    If Ireland can only build a team by overpaying via picks and money, then bait needs to be cut yesterday. They spent a premier draft pick on Jonathan Martin. Don;t tell me a year later he is not good enough to move to LT. Or else you spent a premier draft pick on a non premier position, RT. Draft someone mid rounds and like someone else said, sign Winston or another vet to play tackle.
     
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    You can argue that Albert has been better than Long over the last few years.
     
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    It definitely is a crap shoot with Ireland heading the draft. To say the least. I have no confidence in him finding o line talent outside a top 15 pick. I also don't wanna pay 9 million a year for a lt. So it sucks either way
     
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    Does Albert even fit into a Zone Blocking Scheme? I'd pass and get Winston cheaper.
     
  48. Blake the great

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    Yes he does fit, hence why Miami is interested, and thats also why they'd probably be more willing to pay Albert instead of jake Long, also cause Long has been hurt alot
     
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    I don't know anything about this guy, but I do NOT want to give up draft picks for an OT!

    Keep Martin at LT and sign Eric Wright. Or sign Volmer... Why give up picks for a guy that isn't elite?
     
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    I think the only WR I would be happy with at 12 would be Patterson. At this point CB is priority #1 since we have 0 starting caliber CBs on our roster.
     

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