Eagles tried to trade Brandon Graham and a 2nd round pick for Dion Jordan 2 months ag

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    GM's laughing around the NFL at the Eagles trying to pull a fast one on the Fins.

    Maybe Graham and 1st Round pick, but even then no....
     
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    I have heard rumors that other teams have made offers, so this makes sense. What is lost in all this and mostly in Jason La Canfora's article from a couple of months ago is that the Dolphins are NOT shopping Jordan. Other teams have apparently been sniffing around, but there doesn't seem to be any movement on the Dolphins side. Now you can never say never, because every player is available for the right price. Meaning if the Eagles come back and blow the Dolphins away with an offer of 2 first round picks, this trade happens. No brainer.

    With all that said, I would be SHOCKED if Jordan was not a Dolphin this year.
     
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    In addition the money is a issue.

    Don't get me wrong. If the Eagles toss over 2 1st and Graham it's a done deal. But Graham and 2nd? That's just laughable.
     
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    Glad this didnt happen. The Eagles obviously see how GOOD Jordan is gonna be, and jsut because we didnt use him properly doesnt mean hes a bust. Gramham is good, but a 2nd rd pick wouldnt be enough. They would have to send me 2 #1s for it to even be considered. Jordan will be a beast this season, he has a whole off season to adjust and bulk.
     
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    That's dumb if you wanna give lane Johnson and what we gave up then fine but nothing less
     
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    A 2nd round pick is a slap in the face. Any offer has to start with a 1st round pick, and even that is not enough. A 1st AND 2nd rounder AND Graham, and maybe Hickey actually starts to listen. Still not sure I would pull the trigger on that offer either.

    Jordan needs to be a Dolphin.
     
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    I loved Graham coming out but I would have been pissed if we made this trade.
     
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    Agreed.

    1st and 2nd, Plus Graham.

    Maybe... Johnson, 2nd, Graham.
     
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    When the coach who knows him best is intent on acquiring Jordan, then despite some of our posters' wet dreams (no Jordan and Cam shirtless?), it just confirms he's a keeper.
     
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    We would take a $10m cap hit if we trade Jordan. It's not happening.
     
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    I do not believe it. The cap charge is way too much.
     
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    oh, to be a fly on the wall in the Eagles war room when the Dolphins selected Dion Jordan... lol
     
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    For the right price everyone is available for a trade. This was not the right price.
     
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    This is the kicker.

    Not only trade compensation. Which IMO will be too rich for the Eagles to part with

    The $10 hit we would take is also a show stopper.
     
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    Jordan has put on 14 lbs of muscle and is continuing to get bigger and stronger. Let's see what we have before trading him away. He could be good.
    However, for a guy who has contributed so little, it is interesting that his physical dimensions and performance metrics still make GMs salivate to lure him. Ireland was extremely conservative in his drafting over many years, but the prospect of getting Jordan emboldened him. This just confirms how much the GMs believe in the performance metrics as their guide to drafting some players.
     
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    Guess you didn't watch the Super Bowl, because that is exactly what won the game.
     
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    $10m cap hit! No chance at all, even with 2 firsts.
     
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    Brandon Graham? Man that guy sucks.
     
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    i'd like to see some proof of this 14 lbs of muscle stuff with jordan...that said good on miami not to have taken that trade...as a 34 olb he's much more valuable to philly than graham and a 2nd
     
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    how abuout Jordan for
    a 2nd and a new stadium built for us in Miami paid for by the Eagles :)
     
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    Oh man. I really hope this was type with sarcasm.

    So because Jordan didn't have 20 sacks in his ROOKIE year he is a bust?

    Defense doesn't win championships? Tell that to the Seattle Seahawks.
     
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    I remember this adding muscle issue from last year with Martin. Articles from experts posted here said it was physically impossible to add that much muscle in a short time, and this was at the start of camp, not just 3 months.
     
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    I would consider Lane Johnson, their 2nd round pick and a 3rd round swap for Jordan and DT.
     
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    Worst part is they offer their leftovers from a position we are not in need of and a poor scheme fit.
     
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    Jordan absolutely has the body of a 4-3 DE. The "he only fits as a 3-4 OLB" is way overblown.
     
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    Coaches and our draft guys watched miles of film on Jordan before deciding that Jordan was the player they wanted more than any other in last year's draft. I sincerely believe they, as well as Dion, deserve this year to show why. His talent is through the roof, and we all saw flashes of that.

    IF our coaches cannot figure out how to get him on the field, and use that talent, I would trade them, and not him. Jordan is going to be a STAR in the NFL. End of story. JMO
     
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    why not a player we need and their 2nd and 3rd? quid pro quo *****
     
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    Of course the coach likes a good player of his but for the second time he has refused to give up a lot to get his player. He wouldn't trade an extra third last year to move up one spot and he is not trading a lot for the 3rd pick in the draft this year. No team is trading two number ones for a guy who has proven so little
     
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    they wouldnt trade lane johson straight up
     
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    Im one of the biggest criticizers of the Jordan trade up/pick.

    Mind yall other posters, the pick, not Jordan.

    Theres no way to tell the guy's a bust. No way no matter how you defend it. They didnt play him last year.

    Im with you on Thomas.
     
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    'Eagles could offer their first round pick (No. 22 overall) this year to sweeten the deal. In fact, he goes on to say that "first round pick gets it done." '

    Gentlemen, it doesnt matter how much you like Jordan, Hickey has to pull the trigger on a 1 and 2.

    The state of our team requires it. Thats a simple fact. We are set at DE without Jordan.

    The Patriots make that trade. Such moves are what has helped make the Pats what they are today. That and hitting on acquired picks.

    We're talking about two 1s and two 2s on a team 2 games away from the playoffs for a player that rarely made the field.

    And please do not talk to me about injury- pretty please with sprinkles on top. Injured players do not play special teams. Special teams, where even healthy players have more of a chance of getting injured or at the very least, rocked hard.
     
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    According to a source via Bob Grotz of the The Mercury, the Philadelphia Eagles tried to trade a second round draft pick and Brandon Graham to the Miami Dolphins in exchange for pass rusher Dion Jordan. Grotz notes that this offer was made around two months ago, but it's still incredibly interesting to note.

    OK, this was what was said according to a source via someone from something called The Mercury on something that supposedly happened 2 months ago. Although a VERY SLOW time for anything Dolphins, none of our media picked up on this very lame "report."

    Anyone else consider that?
     
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    I will rephrase for him and say in today's NFL offenses get you to the SB.

    Yes, Seattle's defense was crazy good all year long but so was Wilson.

    And in the SB, knowing with Manning- just as Marino- you always have a chance; Wilson wouldnt let Manning get back on the field. 3rd and longs, great coverage by the Broncos D and Wilson would just used his feet to make the completion and convert. Wilson's ability to buy time is one of the best ive seen.
     
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    I speculate; where did the trade Jordan rumors a few months ago come from and Miami's need to deny if not for teams making offers?

    It could very well be Salguero being the make-crap-up reporter that he is.

    The report is easily believable even if not true and, if upgraded, makes sense for both teams. Kelly knows how to best use Jordan and we need draft picks as well as being set at DE. Picks- plural. And without a one, nothing gets done.
     
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    What a foolish argument. You act like Philadelphia knew who Miami was targeting when they jumped ahead of them in the draft. When Miami jumped up to number three last year everyone thought it was for Lane Johnson, and I am sure Philadelphia thought the same thing, so why would they give up a third round pick to move up one spot when Miami only gave up a second round pick to move up nine spots. Especially when Philadelphia thought all along that Miami was not going to select Jordan. They were convinced they could stay right where they were and get the player they coveted. On top of all of that, Miami didn't even consummate the trade with Oakland until there was only about two minutes left on the clock so what could Philadelphia have done even if they figured out what Miami's intentions were? Chip Kelly's obvious disappointment after the draft and the constant buzz that he is still trying to acquire Jordan is proof of what I stated and that your statement was illogical.
     
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    As i told the guy that yelled bust, I tell you the same; you have absolutely no way of knowing he will be a STAR. None. Zero. Zip. Nada.

    His metrics are through the roof- means zip without pads on.

    Ireland trading up justifies Jordan? Come on dude, thats laughable.

    We had no business trading up for a DE on a team set at DE no matter how good his film. No business.

    He showed flashes of great skill coming off the line for pressure. He was molested against the run.

    Hes a Dolphin so I pray for star. But do we know? Without a reasonable doubt, no.
     
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    Yeah ,right. Mando sent a report he had been sitting on for 2 months to Mercury, and not the planet. Fascinating. LOL
     

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