Egnew Ballin Per Roto Source: Miami Herald

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  1. Heinegrabber

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    Michael Egnew - TE - Dolphins

    Dolphins TE Michael Egnew was running with the starters in Tuesday's OTAs session.

    Egnew was even briefly running ahead of Dustin Keller. Coach Joe Philbin said Egnew earned the reps "after a strong offseason." It's a good start for the 2012 third-rounder, but he still has lots of ground to make up coming off a lost rookie season. He's not a threat to Keller's No. 1 status.
     
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    That would be great news if Egnew can emerge.
     
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    He is despised here.... But he still has potential.

    Plenty of good players have had awful rookie years. Maybe Egnew is a bust, a solid vet or an all pro... Its still too early to say, this season will say a lot though.

    If he is a bust lets hope we somehow get finley... Who despite a crap rookie year is my favourite TE (see what I did there? Lol)
     
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    Hes a bust. Cant be..
     
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    Glad to hear he is finally learning to compete. I guess Pop Warner, high school and college ball didn't provide him the opportunity to do so.
     
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    Coach thought it was April 1st!!!! Good one JP he has a real sense of humor.
     
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    People have the lowest of expectations for Egnew, so if he turns it around this year, some might consider it bonus.

    He was a major disappointment last season, absolutely no denying that. He has a lot of ground to make up, but I never write a guy off after just one season. Soliai was considered a bust after his first three NFL seasons, now he is one of the better DTs in the league.
     
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    Evan Silva trolling dolphins fans?
     
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    Egnew is soft. I do not see it. Would love to be really wrong though.
     
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    Is he? Why? Did you see this in a game? Which one? Or did you hear it from an anonomous source in a media article?

    Egnew deserves plenty of criticism, this "soft" crap is BS until you can highlight examples from his preseason game tape.
     
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    This will be GREAT news if it stays true. I know it is just in shirts and shorts but he really needs to have a good start to start believing in himself. I went back lastnight and was watching some of his 2010 season. He looked like a different player when Gabbert was his QB. He actually was a pretty good blocker that year as well. Then in 2011 he was just terrible at everything, and that is the player we got last year. But his play in 2010 was pretty solid. He was their go to guy in the clutch, he played with confidence and they even had him blocking at the POA in crucial situations at times. He was really aggressive and blocked guys well after the play was past him. Then the next year all of that was gone.

    Some players never have to work, they are just that much better than those around them. Then they get to a higher level and everyone is as good as they are and they have to learn how to get more out of their talents. It is a completely different world for them to have to fight for being the best rather than just walking on the field. Some decide to give up and just figure there are better things in the world to try. That is what I thought I saw on Hard Knocks, he looked like he just gave up. Some time between then and now he has decided he will give it a go. Only time will tell if he can turn it on and become a player. But at least now he has a shot. The NFL is 90% mental, he had to get his mind right before he could even find out if he might have what it takes.

    Lets hope he gets off to an early start and he will get his confidence going, and we may end up with a player after all. He made me sick last year, but now I can't help but pull for him. He is a fin after all. I wish him all the best.
     
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    Sounds like philbin is trying to boost his confidence by getting some 1st reps. The next three months are going to be critical for egnew's career in miami.
     
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    He is soft when it comes to blocking, that's for sure. We all saw it on hardknocks.. But 2 full offseasons learning how to block hopefully should have him showing something this year.
     
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    This cracks me up. The guy has never seen any real playing action yet so many fans have such strong opinions about him. Right now it is OTAs and it means nothing.
     
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    Here's hoping he does something...Don't have high hopes though...
     
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    He is soft. However, I think most continue to underestimate how the game and specifically the TE position is changing. This is not a two TE power football league anymore. How can some be so down on Egnew yet rejoice a Keller signing? Are their skillsets not similar? My point is the guy may have value in today's NFL. We will have our answer soon enough.
     
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    Egnew will make roster. Clay may be in Trouble.
     
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    clay needs to stay healthy..im sure he learned the playbook
     
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    I've been saying this for months now. Egnew is the #1 dark horse on this team. We've been missing a dynamic player at the TE for a long time. If he can get the mental part down, he will extraordinary. His physical tools are fantastic evidenced by his combine numbers which were the best in his class. Maybe he's the reason why Ireland never traded back into the 1st round for Eiffert. Everyone knows the Dolphins need a dynamic TE especially in this offense. Dion Sims also intrigues me.

    Now, if just one of those young guys can emerge at WR also (Binns, Fuller, Matthews), we could really have something here we haven't had in a very long time. A dynamic offense.
     
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    omg, he was drafted in the third round and didn't see the field last year!! how can he ever amount to anything?!? how??
     
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    Egnew is a beast!
     
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    Maybe Eggnuts will nut up????
     
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    Yeah I agree with you. Clay may be in trouble. I think Clay should move to full-back.
     
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    Egnew was a non factor. He really didn't blow like Jonathan Martin did. Both guys need to step up this year.
    Having Keller and an emerging Egnew would be great targets for RT.
     
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    Just imagine if both Egnew and Dion Sims turn out to be above-average TEs. We'd have our blocking and our receiving TE for the next 5 years at least. Like Fasano and Martin in 2008, just a whole lot better. How awesome would that be?!
     
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    A lot of players look great in OTAs but are completely different when it's full contact. I'll get excited if I see him do well in the preseason, but until then, he hasn't proven anything.
     
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    I remember that combo, it was beautiful to watch. Too bad Martin got hurt because they were
    Looking real good. We can only hope egnew turns into a legit starting TE.
     
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    1. Did you watch Hard Knocks? The kid was scared.
    2. Did you see the criticism leveled at him by Incognito and Sherman during Knocks?
    3. Did you forget this article? http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2013/01/growing-consensus-egnew-wont-make-it.html
    4. That Egnew could not be active last year the majority of the time demonstrates not only a lack of knowledge of the position, but also the ability to "bang heads" inside.
     
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    yeah he's "ballin" alright...ha ha

    wait for full contact in full pads...
     
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    So thats a no then?
     
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    I wouldn't say he was a non factor. He was just an undersized LT playing against grown men. They say he put on muscle this year so he should be just fine.

    ---------- Post added at 07:30 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:28 AM ----------

    Egnew, BULLY! :lol:

    http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhn3tn7e1bh123mtf4
     
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    I can see it now Egghead will be this years Brandon London on Finheaven! Any moment now a YouTube video shot during practice of a no pads drill designed to give the route runner a advantage will pop up on here. Egghead will abuse players destin to check my receipt at Sams Club and the Finheaven masses will drool over the video claiming Egghead the best TE in the AFC East!
     
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    I wouldn't write anyone off in the first season. I think he needed a push in the right direction. I hope he takes advantage and really pushes himself to be a player in this league.
     
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    Interesting debate about Egnew. From everything I can recall over the past year about him, the consensus on him is he's soft, that he's weak, can't block, and seemed to be timid on the field. I have to track down the article, but the "soft" label came from his own lockerroom. Yes, none of the fans have seen any evidence of this because he hasn't been on the field enough. But If his teammates are saying this about him, than why should fans think differently.

    On a positive note, coach Philbin still gives him a vote of confidence, and I hope he can prove his detractors (including me) wrong because our team would benefit from it. But until then, I'll wait for the pads come on and see how he performs, because that's when he's going to have to take his game to another level.
     
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    Egnew video last year about hard knocks.
    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/videogallery/71834396/Sports/Michael-Egnew-reacts-to-Hard-Knocks

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/e...w-didnt-love-their-appearances-on-hard-knocks
     
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    I've had a wait-and-see approach to Egnew since he started struggling. Both drafts have been about getting superior athletes who need development. Both drafts put a lot of faith in the coaching staff. I'm cautiously optimistic about Egnew.
     
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    Ginn is soft!!! I haven't seen Egnew yet... have you???
     
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    I've put up a couple of threads, and a number of posts defending Egnew. I did so because I saw many being really down on the guy for little reason.

    I have absolutely no idea if he will make the team this year, become a Pro Bowler or, a second TE. No one does. I just wanted to see Phans/Fans give the kid a chance. It seems that many are now doing so, and what's wrong with that?

    His play, in this off season, will dictate his play this year. Sounds fair to me, and I hope he does well.
     
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    If he pans out, we can have our own version of Gronk/AHern. Not that neither of our guys are that good, but similar body/play styles between Egnew/Keller. Plus we also have Clay and Sims
     
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    Have you seen him to state that he is not soft?

    Ted Ginn actually played as a rookie and scored. Let's not compare the two.
     
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    This is so off base as a comparison.

    Any support for Egnew comes strictly in response to the overwhelming amount of negativity hurled at him for spurious reasons. The fact that you would interpret these "Maybe Michael Egnew isn't the worst football player in the history of the game" posts as akin to people being about to proclaim him the best TE in the AFC East says more about your point of view than it does the people you're talking about.
     
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    This is just another example of why I really like Philbin as our head coach. He knows Egnew is having confidence issues because of a laclister rookie year and how he was portrayed to the public on Hard Knocks, so he addresses it by trying to help build his confidence, in order to get the most of him as a player. Even if he ends up being a failure, Philbin is giving him an opportunity to succeed and not just writing him off.
     
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    I'm firmly in the camp that the guy's going to bust and probably get cut this year, but I'd at least like to see him in the preseason before I go off about how he's the worst player to even put on a uniform. I'm not sure if that makes me an Egnew blind faith homer or something, but hey, what can I say? I like to be controversial.
     
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    As stated, I wold like to see him get a chance this year, and Philbin and Sherman seem to agree, for now. Does he have a shot? Don't have a clue but, he is trying, and that's worth something.

    I see Clay as a multi position guy in FB, TE, and H-back (where he did well as a rookie), and not competition for Egnew. Opinion?
     
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    In retrospect, although interesting, entertaining, if not compelling, from a fan POV, IMO Hard KNocks did not serve the club well at all - perpetuating stereotypes especially of Philbin, painting negative pics, espec of Egnew and making mountains out of routine business molehills, ala Vontae and especially Ocho Stinko. The team would have been better served training in the stealth mode even if it meant no exposure to 7-11 or the lineman the jest signed and then injured with no medical coverage.

     
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    I think you might be a little off base with this. I don't think this is about building Egnew's confidence or doing anything undeserved.

    I think if you got Joe Philbin in a room without cameras or recorders and asked him to name a few players that stand out to him as far as what they've been doing in the off season to try and improve themselves, two of the first names that would come to his head would be Will Yeatman and Michael Egnew. A third could be Jon Martin who by all reports looks like he's gained a solid amount of muscle. All three players were rewarded with elevations during this OTA. Jon Martin is now the starting left tackle. Joe Philbin moved Will Yeatman to guard and declared that he's competing for a starting spot on the line. And finally, he bumped Egnew up to 1st string.

    It doesn't necessarily mean any of them will turn out great. This is like a year ago when Sean Smith was doing all the right things during the off season and he impressed the staff a whole lot while simultaneously Vontae Davis was not impressing them with his lack of focus. Several players and coaches singled out Smith as a guy who made big strides as a player and a professional last off season, and the coaches rewarded him for it by making him their lead corner. I believe Legedu Naanee probably impressed them this way as well.
     
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    I don't think Hard Knocks helped the football team at all. I think that MAYBE Philbin found a way to use it to his advantage a little bit by putting pressure on players who weren't getting it done, and trying to get them to push stories about those guys needing to step up.

    But I 100% believe that Hard Knocks was demanded by Steve Ross for the sole purpose of trying to generate some interest in a football team that was rapidly becoming completely irrelevant even in its own market. And I think he was 100% right to do so. Hard Knocks might not have been a shot in the arm, but at least it kept a few fluttering eyelids from closing completely.
     
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    I wanted to cut Soliai after his second year because he did not seem to care about getting better. I was thinking the same of Jerry when he came in as the Michelin Man for the same reason. Then there were guys like Smith, who put on 10 pounds of muscle after his rookie year, and Martin doing the same at the farm.

    None of the above means anything on players making the team but, it does to me, and Egnew is trying.
     
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    Doing MMA training was an acknowledgment of the criticism that Michael Egnew is soft. That had to be hard to accept. Most people would just disregard it and claim people don't know what they're talking about.

    Then again you can also make a case that only a softie would go ahead and accept criticism that he's soft, lol.
     
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    It's fairly obvious why they drafted Egnew. Receiving skills first, everything else is secondary. He has a big enough frame to get bigger and stronger to improve his blocking, this is his year to show out. Can't teach ball skills.
     

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