Discussion in 'Beasts of the AFC East' started by Vaark, Sep 19, 2013.
the obsession continues....
Who is on a dolphins forum?lol at the jets
Yeah Vaark, why do you keep writing these articles?
It's a meaningless article, we are down there mostly b/c of outrageous ticket prices and losing last year. It means nothing
sez the man with nearly 34 THOUSAND posts on 2 AFCEast enemy forums.
A meaningless article that means nothing? What are you saying?
What constitutes a "meaningful" article?
Marlins should be #1.
I say this as a Marlins 'fan.'
we have a ton of young talent, we have been pretty consistent playoff contenders since Woody bought the team, we have a top 10 HC. if that was truly the criteria we'd be a lot higher.
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do I constantly whine about the dolphins?
you are following me on another board now? that makes 3! though I don't post much at the buffalorange anymore. Thanks for being a fan, w/o loyal fans like you I wouldn't be able to go on.
Hey bro.. you brought it up.. i don't follow you.. but can't help seeing your serial postings... but now that you mention it i see you're getting abused this week on the buffalo range as well as really getting the **** kicked out on you by your fellow TGG homies including one guy who said that he used to respect you but what the **** happened to your objectivity or something of that sort. Tough week for blind jest homers, eh?
lmao you have well over 24,000 posts on a DOLPHINS MESSAGE BOARD:lol2:
If being a "fan" means: "finding humor in reality-devoid, silly 3 Stooges type slapstick ridiculousness and/or the irresistible fascination with train wrecks" then guilty as charged :up:
who are you trying to kid? you follow me on multiple boards, you have 10+ pages of images dedicated to me on tinypic. You are a stalker.
I don't get abused anywhere. I tear apart weak arguments of the average fan.
You are the last person on the planet that should discuss objectivity.
I agree with this assessment.
YOu'd be better off as an average fan: being a Superfan clouds your objective vision. Now if y ou want to talk about posters who actually know football, not how to parse and spin stats superfan homer-style, you should pay attention to ones like Hoops, TedSlimmJr and CK - cuz there's a lot you have to learn. When being a superfan hurts your credibility even on your home site, it should be a wakeup call for objective people who can separate fact from fiction.
I admit you're my muse and help me get through the downtime in my day. After all, as a low-esteem attention whore looking for recognition, isn't it flattering that I'm chopping you instead of playing solitaire? Also, I did indicate that i'm a fan of trainwrecks.. especially OCD ones with lastworditis who only posts during his employer's business hours either because he's abused his internet privileges at home or his employer is a reputation.com type jets agency hiring a bunch of cubicle drones to dilute the realism formerly only found on enemy sites like FH and now emitting from the majority of jets fans also on JI and TGG. Getting the last word in only means you're more OCD than the realists you try to browbeat - anyone who finds these negative jest threads on google searches will not be mislead by some unrealistic, self-serving spin, merely because it's the last word in a thread!
Maybe we should let off you a bit, eh considering what a bad year it's been for you and the delusional fairytales you cling to, eh?
Sanchez on the way out but not before his buttfumble becomes a legendary symbol of hapless ineptitude
Your favorite, glorified DC coach refuses to confirm Sanchez's opinion that he won the starting job before making a fool of himself once again in a presser.
The best coach on your staff, Westhoff when asked what part Sanchez played in both the gift and earned postseasons took the highroad by diplomatically stating that he didn't drive the bus when he could have said "he may not have been a driver but he played an important or indispensable role in our success" He coulda, but chose not to. What does that tell the objective fan?
On the basis of a number of categories including fan experience, ineptitude, expense, ownership and coaching, a major outlet's survey indicates the jets to be the worst NFL franchise and only behind the Maloof Brothers when assessing 123 franchises across all sports.
Buck up; one way to look at it is that things can only get better. Or can they?
Not one of those guys you mention has a problem w/ me. Isn't that interesting?
I don't look for attention, I don't need it. The guy that saves 10+ pages of bad photoshops about me, saves my posts and stalks me at different boards is the poor little man craving attention.
While I don't respect your lack of football knowledge I do think you are reasonably intelligent so obviously it's just a troll job w/ the Westhoff comments and rex comments so I will ignore those b/c any halfway intelligent 9 year old could figure out what is going on.
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haha, fans of the dolphins and Bills who have combined for 1 playoff app since 2002, tens of thousands of empty seats at every home game, multiple blackouts a year, ZERO playoff wins, etc... think the Jets are the worst franchise in the NFL? Interesting.
Likewise, I think you might have more football acumen than what you are customarily exhibiting - however, choose to remain so blindly homerisitc, either because it's your professional "lipstick on a jets pig" job, you are an attention whoring troll, or just crave approbation and recognition to compensate for some personality disorders by whatever means necessary. Either way, when even your own TGG homeys have lost respect for you and put you on ignore, it should be an eye opener that whatever BS you're trying to spin, it's not working.
Again, when the best coach on the jets chose to say Sanchez is not driving the bus instead of elaborating by saying anything more positive, it's the epitome of damning by faint praise. It's typical how you try to discredit Rex's comment that Sanchez did not win the starting job by reading into what he said, but refuse to do the same thing when it's even more obvious that Westhoff, from his expert POV from the sidelines, even when out of the building, could not in good conscience say anything more than "he wasn't driving the busses." YOu're the only one who thinks Sanchez was anything ever more, even at his best , than a mediocre QB who was along for the rides.
I saw that when your TGG homeys asked Bed Had how you were perceived on FH (after they were incredulous how often you post here), he indicated that we feel about the same way regarding your trollism that they do, and many consider you a pet. Well Ben, if you're reading this, maybe some of us do, if you group infesting cockroach into the "pet" category.
how does a homer predict 6 wins for his team?
How does a homer bash his team for 2012 and the end of 2011?
How does a homer call for Sal Alosi to be suspended?
How does a homer call for Braylon to be suspended for his DUI even though most teams don't do anything?
Please enlighten me on all my homer comments?
You say none of us here know anything about the game and we're adults. Why would a 9 year old figure out what is going on?
Easy.. you think you have retained more credibility than you actually have with your ridiculous Rex and buttchez shizzle.. so you have to capitulate to the egresses that are too obvious to ignore. What you never did was question why a neatly spaced cordon of asst coaches 5 feet away from Rex could have taken the initiative to do this without Ryan's encouragement, your team is so gawdawful you'd look like a total idiot if you predicted more wins. By the same token I never saw you come out against signing for 2 years that Detroit corner (name escapes me) with two active felony charges or Goodson with his history of criminality.. or denounce Rex as an embarrassment for his immoral perversions or obscenities against fans... so stop with this high moral ground BS.
It does however beg the question: how can such a self-professed fan and obsessive serial poster not post on the weekends (instead making close to 200 posts in less than 48 hours on the M and Tu following the Carpenter choke in response to a lot of the criticisms on how we blew the game that very Sunday) unless he's abused that privilege at home or doesn't care to mix business with free time?
Oh and a word to the wise, when you have to tell people you're a knowledgeable fan and they're not, from a Psych 101 guideline, it suggest the opposite - you come off like a high school kid bragging about his sexual exploits when in reality they center around a jar of vaseline and a closed bathroom door.
A homer says that Rex Ryan and Sanchez on the Jets means Super Bowl. You make claims that can't possibly work logically and pass them off as true.
It's not my fault you and others lack basic reading comprehension and think I called mark Sanchez great.
No need for deflections about myself having a life on weekends and you staying up to all hours of the night to post on Fri/Sat nights.
Like I thought, you have nothing so please move along.
You can't even get your insults right.
It is illogical to think that those 2 men which had the Jets w/in a game of the SB 2 straight years could make a SB w/ a more talented Bucs team. :lol:
You said you wouldn['t take 2 first round picks for him, even when he was the 27th rated league QB. You said you wouldn't trade him for Ryan, Flacco Stafford or Schaub even when he was the 27th rated league QB. Your narrative changed from he "led" to he was an important part of 2 postseasons conveniently while accusing others of not have the knowledge to look past the chronic suckage. Sucks for you that an actual football expert who watched him up close and personal at best would say he didn't drive the post season busses, when he could have as easily elaborated by saying .. "but he played an important role." The fact that he didn't speaks volumes and neatly negates and refutes all your BS. Sorry
Since Rex only made 1 postseason without charity in 5 years, it's as easy to proclaim that with TB's "talent" the tandem of Tony Sparano who actually made league history and won a division, along with Rex Grossman, who actually won a division and conference and made it to the SB - even more likely would make the bucs a SB team.
I wouldn't have at the time and neither would the Jets or any team that had him at the time. Things have changed.
switch mark w/ Ryan, Flacco, Stafford and they win as much(Atl, Bal) or more(Det).
sucks for you that as a supposedly educated adult you have no idea what Westhoff said.
Sparano, the guy you said was a top coach in this league and better than Rex, won a div title w/ much more charity than we got in '09 but being the homer/excuse maker you are you can't see it.
sucks for you that your homerism refuses to accept your beloved perv coach's declaration that Sanchez didn't win the QB competition insisting that we should read between the lines but won't accept that if all Westhoff would say in favor of Sanchez was that he didn't drive the postseason busses, we accept this "damning as faint praise" at face value when it would have been so easy for him to add a more concrete, specific, supportive pro sanchez statement beyond that. Or is Westhoff now an "average coach."
Oh and most every GM would have traded Sanchez for any of those aforementioned QBs and a lot more despite your blind love of The Taco
I'm the excuse maker? Too ****ing funny:
Rex couldn't say anything other than Sanchez didnt win the starting job
Westhoff was more complimentary than he lets on
Defense lost the postseason games, not Sanchez
Sanchez had no one to work with last season - that's the reason he stared down receivers, threw in 2 triple coverage, had happy feet and orchestrated 52 turnovers instead of throwing balls away or taking sacks
give me a break homey
Mark did win, he would be starting and we'd be winning.
Westhoff was a great coach and has been very complimentary of Mark.
No GM would have traded Sanchez if he were in the shoes of Mike Tannenbaum at that point in time. Many things have changed, some his fault most not his fault. In this league success can be about being in the right situation.
as far as excuses go: the overpriced PSL mis-adventure being your latest one for why this (just so we don't lose focus on the essence of what this thread asserts):
It isn't easy being green.
In the latest issue of ESPN The Magazine -- the annual "Franchise" issue -- the Jets are rated as the worst franchise in the NFL and 121st out of 122 teams in the major sports. The ratings are based on several criteria -- fan relations, affordability, bang for the buck, stadium experience, players, ownership, title track and coaching. In case you're wondering, the Sacramento King's finished 122nd
Overpriced tickets are the only reason we should be on the list and yet we never have to worry about blackouts unlike you guys.
well, last I looked, the results were a matrix of a number of variables including coaching, ownership, title track (not title losses) and fan experience. Don't know if it included circus clown shows and embarrassments or not, although it should have. Regardless, these are issues I've been harping on for years...if you showed a capability to think for yourself, you'd have come to the same painful conclusions :idk:
So as usual you're wrong and no matter how much turtlewax you apply to the turd, it still smells. However, we have established now that even from your vacuum visioned homerism, the jets don't have too much regard for their rank and file fans nor treat them too considerately . At least you've conceded that.
coaching: we have an excellent coaching staff
ownership: stable owner willing to spend, Jets have been one of better AFC teams since he bought team
title track: not looking good right now
fan experience: when you don't win the experience is poor. New Stadium sucks too
this is mostly about PSLs and ticket prices. It's obviously an asinine survey that only the mindless would put any stock in which is why certain folks here are blindly following it.
yeah, it's not like the jets deserved to be top echelon and ended up somewhere in the middle.... LOLOL Again, everyone else is wrong but you when it comes to your **** franchise. The stench has really gotta be overpowering to rank lower than the pathetic Marlins.
Well at least Woody's in good Maloof Bros company :idk:
Oh whoever stonewalled Bradway's petition to draft Russell Wilson should be fired.. Oh wait a minute.. he has been.
People can say we were terrible last year and I'd agree, they can ay we ended 2011 terribly and I'd agree but to say we are the 2nd worst franchise in the 4 major sports in this Country is as absurd as it gets. For someone who can't think for themselves like you it's ok but for those that can think and do understand sports it's as obvious as can be.
You are the ultimate homer, every negative phin article has been written by a terrible writer. I can acknowledge when the Jets suck, I have no problem w/ bashing but it needs to be earned. worst in the NFL and 2nd worst among all is obviously not earned especially coming from one of the better teams in the AFC since the turn of the century.
blahblahblah..says the homer who makes excuses for everything: yeah, Sanchez was the 27th ranked QB but one of the top 10 best, and he especially sucked for the last 1.5seasons because he had no support, not because he can't read a D, has happy feet, misses open no-namers while throwing into triple coverage and committing 52 turnovers in the last 2 seasons. LOLOLOLOL;
Really, I've enumerated a million times why your team has morphed into a circus that's an embarrassment to its true fans and to the NFL... ranging from its buttinski Tebow loving owner, to its overpaid, bottom feeding QB to its coaches tripping opposing players, to its immoral perv coach pimping his slutty wife , to hiring Tony Sparano in his image, to covering up the Giants championship plaques and banners out of jealousy as the little brother, down to sexually harassing sexy reporters who need to stay silent to access the team to front office personnel pimping their female employees to **** pic -sending diva QBs they've wasted picks on (did i mention the pics they wasted on Tebow ?). It's life under the big top.. if you don't perceive it in all its embarrassing glory, that reflects on you as a homer much more than me as a fins fan (not only during working hours) who hates the jest. Hell, the mere fact that I have less than 25 posts on TGG over several years vs your 25thousand here - mostly lastworditis trying to put some polish on your turd of a team is all anyone needs to know about how secure someone is in their own skin and with their own team.
I can't help it if I understand the game better than you. You even gave me a list and said he was in the top 15. You spin so many lies you can't keep up.
You only wish you had the success in Miami that we have had under rex but then again you think Sparano is a great coach, henne a great QB and Miami the next dynasty:lol2:
The ultimate homer/excuse maker calling someone else a homer:crazy:
You keep clinging to the fact that one year i conceded he didnt suck as badly as he did the year before or two after.. yet you never bring that up.. Why is that? If you're gonna hold me to that, then also give the same credence to the fact i said it was an anomaly..
I changed my mind about Sparano about the time you should have seen the light of day regarding Rex being on a Rich Kotite career trajectory swoon. I said and still do that Henne was as good as Sanchez but with testicles that already dropped and less boneheaded pick 6's..... and that he'd have done as well if not better in Buttboy's place. You really are the ultimate superfan... Now I know how Columbus felt arguing with the Flatworlders :idk:
And to think they are 121 out of 122 after playing in, not winning, 2 AFC Championship Games. If they hadn't accomplished that they would be 123 out of 122.
And of course to hear the ridiculous defense is priceless.
And I'd like to hear what Mike Westhoff meant since most of us in here read it and agree on what he meant. Except one of us of course.
And if you guys want a good laugh, go ver to TGG and read the battle about who has the ****tier QB, Bills or Jets :lol:
Once again i'll take the Jets record and post season appearances since the turn of the century over a lot of other teams (including Miami)
But hey, you guys got ranked higher in a magazine!!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
I'll take our franchise QB over any player on your team. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
In fact I'll take him over your entire team and coaching staff. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Maybe you'll finally make the playoffs and win a playoff game...it's been a loooooooong time coming.
Yup. And it looks like it's going to be a while for the Jets.
some other folks may not be smart enough to understand this but you certainly are. How in the world can the Jets be the worst franchise in the NFL and worse but all but 1 across the 4 major sports? That's asinine.
Westhoff didn't say anything negative on Mark, if anything he was complimentary about him.
I think we'd be 3-0 w/ Mark but we are 2-1 w/ Geno and he'll get better. Our D might be the best we have had under rex.
Slow down there. Way too early to call a guy who has never been in a postseason race a franchise QB.
are you talking about the 2-1 Jets? man we really suck.
If Dolphins had won against 2 bottom feeder teams like the Bills and Bucs, you'd be the first to point it out. So I'll just say beat a quality opponent first.
TB could easily be 2-1, Buf would be 2-1 if they beat us, NE is 3-0. Indy would be 3-0 if they beat you, Cle is 1-2, Atl is 1-2. You guys are doing a great job and you look for real but it is still early. We were supposed to suck, be the worst team in the league and we are off to a good start.
i hate the jets as much as anybody, but they r not the 2nd worst franchise in all of sports.
as bad as they r, 1 superbowl win and only 1 appearance, all those terrible draft picks, losing seasons, whatever it is, to say they r the 2nd worst franchise out of all 4 major sports is ridiculous
In just football terms, the lions are worse, cardinals are pretty bad aside from a few good years here and there, in the nba, the clippers, i am not going to go through every franchise 1 by 1, and trust me i ****ing hate the jets and they are pathetic franchise, but 2nd worst in all major sports is pushing it.
they r bad, but not 2nd worst bad.
Be objective Junc. You were gifted a game, which is a part of football, and you won against a very weak secondary. The Jets have a very good defense again but over the next 9 weeks your schedule is brutal. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if you go at best 3-6 over that stretch. If the Jets go better then 3-6 in that stretch, I'll be the first to admit I am impressed.
As for our franchise QB I recognize it's early but I am calling it now. He can put this team on his back and win. He has shown no signs of inconsistency and has ratcheted his game up tremendously in these first few weeks of year 2. He just beat Matt Ryan and Andrew Luck back to back which is pretty damn impressive.
As for the ranking, it's a great way to poke fun at a rival.
it's not 2nd worst all time it's 2nd worst currently and worse NFL franchise currently which is a joke when we have been one of the better franchises this Century.
How come every time we win it is a gift? Indy not finishing last week, playing Cle and then Atl's kicker missing an easy FG are not gifts? We had 20 penalties and won, what gifts did we get?
Schedules look brutal on paper just as yours did but it isn't looking as bad now, is it? we may go 0-9 the next 9 games but:
at Ten- winnable
at Atl- not impossible
Pitt- very winnable
at Cin- tough
at Buf- winnable
at Bal- winnable
There is a better chance we go 3-6 than 6-3 but there isn't a game in there where I say we have no chance like I thought coming into the year.
Uh, Indy "not finishing" because Miami defense stepped up. Atlanta missing a 3 point field goal doesn't mean anything when Miami won by 4 points. Those aren't gifts.
Getting a questionable 15 yard penalty to put the Jets within field goal range with less than a minute into the game is a gift.
And since you want to talk about missed field goals being gifts, let's talk about one of the playoff wins you like to bring up all the time. You know, the one where Kaeding couldn't hit field goals?
Oh, it's after 9am and before 5pm on a weekday. I wonder who's posting on Finheaven?