Film study - week 1 @HOU

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  1. dolphone

    dolphone In memoriam

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    Hi guys,

    So I went over the film for week 1. I have graded every player on every play (save for the last couple of Houston drives, where they were just killing clock), and I have come away with some general opinions about the team and its performance last week - so I thought, who better to share it with?

    In no particular order:

    - Derrick Shelby is a very bright spot for this team. While fellow rookie Olivier Vernon looks inconsistent and not quite up to snuff to deal with an NFL offensive line, #79 made the most of his very limited (13) snaps. I counted 6 instances where he broke through the OL and nearly got to the QB, and a couple others where he at least didn't lose ground - which is quite good, actually, when it happens on running plays.Odrick was impressive too - he had snaps at both DE and DT, and he had mostly positive plays, either penetrating or pushing his guy into the QB. He had a single "no effort" play in the entire game. Wake looks good, but he had quite a few snaps where he was completely ineffective - at points, it looked like he didn't even try. I hadn't noticed that.

    - Speaking about the DL, Paul Soliai is a definite beast. I counted only three non-positive plays from him (where he either failed to generate push/penetrate), and they were all in the same drive (second Houston series in the game). Even then, he occupies blockers and lets LBs make plays (that drive was a three and out). Between him and Randy Starks (which main problem this week was that he wasn't fast enough to finish Schaub off after penetrating) we have quite an impressive interior. McDaniel and Randall made cameos; while McDaniel looks impressive (penetration, double teams, the kind of thing that Soliai excels at) Randall looks quite raw still. He played very little (about a couple dozen snaps) and showed very little.

    - It's about the little things with the secondary. Clemons is almost always covering deep, with Jones often coming down for an extra presence on the box (or covering the slot receiver). That leads to Clemons backpedaling on almost every play, which in turn causes him to be out of position for some intermediate throws, turning them from incompletions or medium gains into quite big plays. For instance, there were a couple of passes to the middle where Owen Daniels abused Misi (why would you put your slowest LB on the opposition TE is the mistery to me), but he wasn't really *that* wide open - safety support over the top could've turned those balls into incompletions, even INTs. Probably a side effect of having to defend Andre Johnson, who by the way had a quiet game all things considered - the TD at the end of the 1H was a great catch, and I think Smith had pretty good coverage on him. He *could've* pushed him outside, but it's still a good play by him. Johnson benefited mostly from comebacks where his DB (mostly Marshall) gave him a huge cushion, facilitating 10-15 yarders. But check the plays: he gained little YAC. Anyway, both starting CBs played a good game IMO, tight coverage mostly. Jimmy Wilson played very, very few plays (I counted 4, it's still hard to make out the numbers of those guys on some plays) but he impressed me with one particular play, a fantastic coverage of the slot receiver in the 3rd quarter. He played it perfectly, and gained inside position beautifully. But all things considered, it looked like the de facto nickel DB for this game was Jones. Anyway, the main point was that the mistakes are correctable, and I have faith the coaching staff will polish them throughout the season.

    - Which, on defense, leaves the LBs. Dansby was irritatingly inconsistent - he had a couple of plays with perfect coverage, but dropped the INT. So good he looked at coverage, in fact, that he went on WRs in a few plays, and looked pretty good at it - except he also gave up an easy catch to Daniels in a play where the coverage looked way too easy to make; he just got lost. He made correct reads on most rushes, but failed to take the correct angle - ended up overpursuing. And he had a particularly awful play in the second drive of the second half, where he read the play correctly, took the right angle, and then whiffed on an easy tackle. As I said, irritating. Burnett is pretty good, and should look strong at Sam all season long. He isn't great at pass defense, but he manages, particularly with safety help. He handles receiver transitions seamlessly. Misi's strong point is the rush defense, and I can't stress enough this guy shouldn't be covering anything except perhaps a small short zone.

    - Offensively, the Dolphins seemed to favor one of two personnel groups: Naanee/Bess/RB/Fasano/Clay, or Hartline/Armstrong/Bess/RB, with either Fasano or Clay, depending on situation. RB there stands for "Running Back", not Reggie Bush. Naanee started the game beasting on rushes, with some impressive blocks on DBs to spring long Bush runs. However as the game went on he withered, and didn't really make a good (let alone great) block again until the 3rd quarter. The 1st INT was arguably his fault (he let the DB get inside position on an inside route) and I fail to see what keeps him in games. Bess saw few targets last Sunday, but looked good in his receptions IMO. It's quite clear the team considers Hartline and Armstrong the deep threats: they usually ran posts, deep ins, or deep curls, with an underneath route behind them (to where the pass usually went). Which leads me to...

    - Tannehill. Almost all of his 1st half passes were short, dumpoff stuff. In fact, that's a big reason for the three INTs - three stop drops that allowed the D-linemen to raise their arms on basically every pass attempt. They opened it up a little bit in the second half, but then shut if off again near the goal line. He does lock into receivers, but it's not all the time, and it happened less as the game wore on. I guess it's something they're weening him out of. But anyway, he had *a lot* of 3 step drops, and I think it's due to the quality of the Texans DL. They probably thought that wouldn't give them time to penetrate the OL.

    - Gah. The OL. Every single player (save perhaps Pouncey, and even he had a lousy block on the very first play) is an inconsistent mess. Long generally looked dominant, but then he has plays like on the second play of the INT2 drive (yeah, I started referring to drives by their turnover number. This game sucked to review). He simply couldn't gain any leverage agains the RDE, giving up an easy tackle and breaking the entire play. But then he's not the biggest offender. Incognito looked very similar to Long - dominant at times, but he had a few plays where you just... gah. On the first Houston drive of the second half, he and Pouncey got split by the RDE, and neither of them could do anything to prevent him crashing into Tannehill. That was an awful play all around (Martin whiffed on his block completely, and so his guy also crashed the pocket, and Long failed to herd his defender all the way downfield; his block would've looked much better if Tannehill had stepped up, but obviously he couldn't) but Incognito's and Pouncey's mistake there was the worst part of it by far. Same story with Jerry - first drive of the game, 6th play, it was a dual screen pass. Except Jerry doesn't hold his defender for even a second, then doesn't go upfield either... just stands there, flabbergasted that his jedi mind tricks don't work on NFL linemen. Then another complete whiff on the first drive of the second half... And Martin remains Martin, mostly solid but giving up the ocassional, easy sack. The whole OL thing could be a post in itself, I dunno. It's just too much inconsistency, and it's killing the passing game.

    So, that's my wall of text. If you have questions or wanna debate a specific play I'm more than open to it. I'm actually cutting it a bit short because I want to go grab a bite (lunch hour over here) but I'll probably post something about the Oakland game later.
     
  2. Roman529

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    So what grade did you give Tannehill ?....I think Ron Jaworski and Merrill Hoge gave him a D, and F, respectively. I probably would give him about a C minus considering it was his first game, and I think some of the tipped INT's were a little unlucky, but he definitely has to work on this. The game was close for a while and then it seemed like we just got blown away in about ten minutes and it was over. I think the team as a whole played about the same as Tannehill....a C minus or D+ but we played one of the better teams in the NFL. I look for a good bounce back game come Sunday.
     
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    Good stuf. Thanks
     
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    Hopefully the force will grow stronger for jj and the rest of the oline.
     
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    Good stuff.

    Just curious, do you get NFL rewind and watch the game with the coach film? Ive been thinking about doing that, but havent pulled the trigger yet.
     
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    interesting read...fyi most safeties in single high are gonna initially off the snap get into their pedal to maintain depth and keep them between the most vertical pass receiving option and the endzone...it also helps them maintain angles to the ball always either in front of them or to either side of them but ideally never behind them...when the play gets over the head of a single high safety that's not what you want if you can prevent it...thus the pedal for depth

    chris clemons issues aren't about pedaling from the jump in single high...they're about a lack of awareness and feel for the passing game and a lack of instincts and ball skills...none of which does he possess...
     
  7. dolphone

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    Tannehill... um, he comes up with a C-, D+, something like that. I graded numerical from 0 to 10. He had a few truly horrendous plays (the worst was his snap mishap in the 1Q) and a few pretty good ones (third Dolphins drive, next to last play for instance). His INTs are a mixed bag: the first was a great defensive play, and like he said the placement was probably good related to the receiver, but the coverage just wasn't inducive to a completed pass (even if the defender fails to get inside position, he's still well placed for a quick tackle, and it came in second and long after a sack). The second one fits with the general perception that he's locking into receivers, but that was just a great play by the LDE coming from a stunt and just bullying his way past Pouncey, who was somewhat occupied doubling on the NT. Just a good DL concept, and Watt is just enormous. Just a couple of plays before that Watt also batted down a pass to Hartline in a smoke route, and I think sometime during the 1Q/2Q they figured Miami was just going to throw short, quick routes and adjusted accordingly.

    To be quite honest I don't see the fault for Tannehill in the third INT, he looks through his progressions (or whatever they have him doing, perhaps he's just looking off but it does look like he's scanning the field for a second) but the defender made a terrific play again. Unheard of in the aftermath was that Kareem Jackson very smartly shoved Hartline out of the way and into the ground before making the pick, if our guy is up he probably fights for the jump ball and it probably ends up in the ground.

    I'm probably most irked about his fumble in the 1Q and that 2Q (IIRC) incomplete to Armstrong in a 3rd down. Armstrong had his defender beat (it looks like he ran into a seam in the coverage) and he was *wide* open for NFL standards, Tannehill completely missed the throw there. It was just high and a bit behind the guy, he had missed a throw to Hartline like that (high and behind) just three plays earlier. What's annoying (and encouraging, I suppose) is that the play before he completed a very nice pass to Bess where he stepped away from pressure and found his man. It is what it is, the way of rookie QBs.

    I don't think it was an easy situation for Tannehill to step into for his first game but he could've played much better, hence the grade. BTW I don't grade them with anything resembling scientific process, I just jot down whatever I feel the guy put in the field. Anything 5 or below means he was directly responsible for the result of the play, hence Tannehill getting 5 for the second and 6 for the first but a solid 9 in the third. That last one seriously wasn't his fault.
     
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    dolphone In memoriam

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    Yeah, NFL rewind. That stuff is a godsend, you can finally study route patterns and secondary assignments with something resembling reality. When I did gamecharting off the television feed it was just awful trying to guess whether the defender that ended up near the receiver was the originally assigned guy, for instance the transitions between LBs on short zones is short of impossible with regular feeds but with this it's pretty easy to spot.

    I say spend the $60 bucks (or $70, can't recall). It's well worth it. Plus the condensed view (another feature they have for games) let's you watch a game in under an hour, it's pretty amazing. I just watched the entire Bears-Packers game this morning while having a cup of coffee.
     
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    dolphone In memoriam

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    I understand, and I know you're guarding Andre Johnson who can and probably will kill you against single coverage, but sometimes it's just incredible.

    Here's a sequence from late in the 2Q - the drive ended with Foster's first TD:

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    That's presnap, when Schaub's releasing and at catch time. Note he's a good 10 yards away from the receiver when he catches it. Again, I understand single high is a pretty tough spot but you simply can't allow it. There's time when the Texans exploited this too, with the underneath defender being a LB (usually Koa Misi). Now you can second guess putting Misi to cover *anyone*, and it's fair, but if you're designing a play and there's a chance Misi's ending up in that spot, you have to give him some support over the top. Giving up the big play in lieu of the huge one is not much of a tradeoff.

    That play, btw, came on 3rd and 10. They had them.
     
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    It's free this week. You should give it a try..
     
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    I'm glad you mention Misi in coverage...Just watching him try to cover a TE is just soo wrong! He just doesn't have that skill set, arugably non of our Lbs do, Misi being the least skill at that particular task. Also why is it against us the middle of the field ALWAYS seem wide open? I've watch other team and it's like 50 people are around the middle of field not allowing or at least, minimizing any kind of Seam Route by TEs, not us!

    I'm also happy to hear what you said about S.Smith on coverage against Dre, Smith really had good coverage and possibly could have helped himself a bit more by putting his body into him to face the incoming ball. Eitherway, few realize this is night and day for him compared to a few year ago! I easily perdict this is going to be his greatest season thus far.
     
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    I have the NFL rewind. Its $40 for the one I have. 60 for all the coaches' tape but its not like watching all the 22. I like listening to the broadcast too. So far, I've watched about 6 condensed versions just watching for some of my ffl players. Its pretty good though.
     
  13. dolphone

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    Yeah, Misi is a serious liability in coverage. He's pretty good against the run, and he *can* cover short zones effectively, but asking him to go mtm against the likes of Owen Daniels without S help is preposterous. We actually do have a good coverage LB: Dansby. He went mtm multiple times, no issues. Burnett is adequate but not optimal.

    As for Smith... Haven't seen film from him of previous seasons. Sounds like a fun bye week project, lol. But he did cover quite well this week at least.

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    What do you mean it's not like watching all the 22?

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    I tend to believe this. Instincts in football are huge. They make up for whatever speed you lack or injury you may have lingering. If after three years you cannot feel or sense something and see it just play it like its your life on the line, then you just wont get it.

    That said, Clemons does have opportunity's to make plays and in the past, just doesnt make it happen. His most recent sighting was preseason vs. Atlanta where he makes textbook tackle causing fumble and recovering it after huge run. Also, the playing deep just makes me think that was the gameplan for him. Bend dont break. But problem is, we had to cover Johnson in red zone.
     
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    BTW, thanks for your work here Dolphone!
     

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