Fin Thirteen's 2014 Must Have Player

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  1. Fin Thirteen

    Fin Thirteen FinHeaven VIP Finheaven VIP Donator

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    So, I'm not a guy who researches and digests everything about every player in the draft. Like a lot of people I comb the web and record games to look at interesting players at positions the Dolphins might want.

    every year I stumble on a guy that I just can't believe people aren't more excited about. A player who isn't getting the draft grade or recognition his ability or potential deserves (to me anyway). A guy who I refuse to believe wont be a great player in the NFL regardless of what everyone else thinks

    in 2010, it was Mike Williams WR, who went to TB in the fourth.
    In 2011, it was Delone Carter RB, who went to the Colts (everyone's allowed an outlier!)
    In 2012, it was Russell Wilson
    In 2013, it was Kiko Alonso.

    This year, there are a whole load of players I like that people don't seem to be writing much about. Yawin Smallwood, Joel Bitonio, Isaiah Crowell, DaQuan Jones, JaWuan James, Jimmy Ward, Jared Abbrederis, Brett Smith, Arthur Lynch.

    But there's a player I'm watching that I just can't get my head around in terms of upside. His potential looks unbelievable to me. He wasn't expected to come out, so perhaps that's partly why nobody's discussing him much.

    Martavis Bryant WR of Clemson. This kid has had academic issues, poor attitude, didn't apply himself, was in the shadow of Hopkins, Watkins, Ellington and Boyd. Suffice to say, he didn't maximise his potential.

    But this season, he got an ultimatum from the coaches and has turned his game around. He's still very raw (unlike Russell Wilson or Kiko Alonso), but he is a 6'5" sub 4.4 kid with an unbelievable catch radius, superb body control, the blocking of a TE, a renewed and excellent on-field attitude and is absolute money in the redzone against any coverage.

    I've watched 7 or 8 games of his and my belief in this kid is unshakable. The team that takes Bryant in the fourth (where he's currently being mocked) is getting a steal. He'll have limited impact in year one, is my guess, but he will explode into an elite receiving talent in the NFL.

    Route running is a clear current deficiency and he needs to beat the jam a little better against press. But he just burns corners routinely, beats guys draped all over him to the ball, puts his body in the right places and is one of the most willing blockers you will find.

    I don't know if there's a WR in this draft I'd prefer, in any round. I doubt it, teammate Watkins included.

    Interested to hear others take on him, though it won't affect my opinion! He's my 2014 Must Have Player.
     
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  2. Roman529

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    He has great size and long arms....kind of a skinnier Dez Bryant. I just think WR may not be a big area of focus until maybe round 4 onward?

    [video=youtube;Cabv2Rw7POI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cabv2Rw7POI[/video]
     
  3. Fin Thirteen

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    Yeah, except 3" taller, faster and not an *******!

    Truthfully, Miami might be the worst destination for him, where we try to showhorn him into our rinky dink WCO after 2 years inactivity on the roster because Ken O'Keefe doesn't like the way he runs the skinny post.
     
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    A sample of what Bryant can do.

    [video=youtube;Zc0bcGBrt-M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Zc0bcGBrt-M[/video]

    [video=youtube;vASGMWhYFfc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vASGMWhYFfc[/video]

    [video]http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:9978128[/video]

    [video]http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:9978057[/video]

    [video]http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:9885286[/video]

    [video]http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:9696033[/video]

    [video]http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:9813983[/video]


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  5. finns13

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    Clemson fan here. really thought he could have used another year in college just to have the opportunity to be the guy. you are correct his measurable are stupid. 4.4 at 6'5. Still needs to mature, get stronger, route running isn't great and needs to be more consistent catching the ball. A project with huge upside. Defiantly worth a 4th round gamble. As far as Sammy, no take Sammy all day every day.
     
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    There are definitely WR's I'd take over him, but the upside for a guy who will likely fall, because of the other WR's in the draft, is amazing. I also think it's a good fit. Miami is going into 2014 with Hartline and Wallace as their starters (for better or worse), so you raise a good point. Get a guy who can develop and has crazy upside - as long as the guy will likely receive limited action anyway. Maybe the new GM will see him as a Mike Williams kind of value (Williams was obviously more polished but less physically gifted). I like the thinking.
     
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    He's not as physical as dez Bryant was and doesn't high point the ball like dez did either in college but he's definitely got some things to work with...will be interesting to see what he runs at that size...got some burst to his game...also would be interesting to see how he handles press

    Dez Bryant ran thru contact an awful lot in college even I don't see much of that here...of the big body wrs though he's one of the ones that I would be interested in for sure...
     
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    I'd definitely rather draft Bryant in the 3rd or 4th than even consider Benjamin in the 1st.
     
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    your concerns are my concerns with him too. Beating the jam and press coverage in general and also breaking first contact. But physically i think he has it in him. Just see how eager a blocker he is, i don't think he's shy of contact.

    He's raw, but he has incredible potential.
     
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    in the 4th sign me up. we need a big wr with some speed
     
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    Miami is bringing Martavis in for a visit. Music to my ears, personally.
     
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    miami better be willing to pull the trigger come that 3rd round pick cause i doubt he gets out of day 2...drawing some aj green comparisons which is a little rich for my taste but i do see the smooth finesse athlete

    would be nice if he ran thru contact a little better but a solid talent for sure...got a lot to work with in a raw package
     
  13. Fin Thirteen

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    Kid's star is rising - I don't think he'll make it to our 3rd round pick. If you can make a draft day move for Will Davis and Daniel Thomas, you can sure as hell trade up a few spots for Martavis Bryant.

    Draftbreakdown.com has some more cutups of his recently added. Just confirms the guy's undoubted potential.
     
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    yeah you probably right...comes off by pick 75
     
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    When you mentioned you recorded games I thought of draftbreakdown. It's a site you might want to check out, as it'll save you hours of watching time. For example, they have clips of seven games of Martavis last year, with no dead time, so in half an hour you'll be able to see everything you need to see about him:

    http://draftbreakdown.com/video/martavis-bryant-vs-maryland-2012/
     
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    Thx. As per the post 2 or 3 above this, I'm on draftbreakdown.com more than I should really admit to! (certainly more than I would admit to the wife!). The embedded videos in the OP are from there also.

    What's also worth doing when using the site is do a search for the team of the player you want to look at. If it's an offensive player, you can then look for videos of defensive players who have cutups of games against that team. And vice versa, of course.

    So there's probably a video of some CB or LB draft prospect playing Clemson, which you can watch to see some extra footage of Martavis Bryant, even if he isn't the highlighted player.

    Hope that makes sense. I've seen a lot of extra games of certain players that way.
     
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    Physically dynamic career underachiever with low playing speed, questionable hands, a history of disappointing coaches and highly inconsistent production with a large portion of it clustered in one ACC game.

    Really feel like I've read this story before...
     
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    WR Jarvis Landry at #50
     
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    Good list. DaQuan Jones is seriously underrated. In most years, he might be considered a late 1st rounder. A couple of others I would add are James Wilder Jr. and Kenny Shaw from Florida State. I love Wilder as a power runner to complement Miller and it seems he might be had somewhere around round 5 or 6. Shaw is a shade below 6-0, but a really nice slot guy who remind me a bit of Wes Welker.
     

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