Fins Draft...Interesting picks

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  1. chada456

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    Pretend for a second that the Fins do not trade their 9th pick and at the time of the draft, they have not signed any FAs. Lets say for arguments sake, G. Adams, J. Anderson, Branch, Russel, Quinn, Thomas, Johnson, and Peterson are all off the board. Who would you like the Fins to draft with their 1st overall pick?

    My selections:
    Patrick Willis- Best LB in the draft. Not great at one thing but good at everything. Many will say he is a reach.
    Levi Brown- Most scouts will say he is the 2nd best OT in the draft. Most will also say he is a reach. Fills arguably the biggest need for the Fins.
    Dwayne Bowe- Best Senior WR by far. Wowed scouts in Senior Bowl practices. Everyone will say he is a reach. Reminds many, including myself of Anquin Boldin and could potentially be a great #1 reciever in the NFL.
    Darrelle Revis- The CB position is a huge need for the Fins as the Fins secondary was exposed in many games this past season. According to scouts, there is no front runner. I personally don't know his coverage skiils and am basing this pick from my readings and the fact that we desperately need a shutdown corner.
    Leon Hall- Same as above.

    From what I have read on this site, other Fin fan selections...
    Laron Landry- The Fins secondary was exposed and I could understand why many people believe we should take a huge talent like Landry. My objection to this pick would be that we just drafted a safety. Also IMO, the safety position is not the best position to draft in the 1st round. Also, it took J. Allen basically a whole season to learn Caper's schemes so Landry might not make much of an impact in his 1st season. Despite those objections, he, unlike the other picks, could essentially not be much of a reach.
    Amobi Okoye- Scouts love this guy. He's a major talent.Simply put however, I do not believe he fits Caper's defensive schemes. Could or could not be a reach, more to come after Senior Bowl/Combine.
    Dwayne Jarrett- The Fins could definitely use a playmaker on offense and this guy is a great reciever, no denying that. Scouts will say he doesn't have the speed and doesn't get good seperation. When I see him play, I think Keyshawn Johnson.
    Ted Ginn, Jr.- This guy would definitely add a playmaker. He is extremely fast and agile. He may be nothing more than a slot reciever/return specialist in the NFL and with that idea, may be a major reach. Side note, my own personal comparisons, Johnnie Lee Higgins.
    Reggie Nelson- Similar comments to Laron Landry.

    With all that said, who do you believe the Fins should draft with their 1st overall pick? Please explain your thoughts, because personally I am completely uncertain as to who would be the best pick.
     
  2. CitizenSnips

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    Ted Ginn. Before i make my arguement for him, let me say this. The dolphins draft is probably the hardest draft to predict in the league. At #9, we could go in several directions. If Levi Brown proves he's worth the #9 pick, we take him because hes a good player and he'd fill a needed position. Theres really no telling where miami goes with its first pick, because we have an all new coaching staff, a 'new' GM, and several holes to fill.

    Why i picked Ginn. As already stated, hes a playmaker. He can score from anywhere on the field, at almost any position. Cam Cameron may want ginn because Ginn would give him something he's never had in SD. A top flight recieving core. Ginn can run the end arounds, the fly routes, return kicks, catch screens...you know you can just do a lot with this guy. he's like the reggie bush of this draft. he may not be able to play his 'spot' on offense better then anyone else in the league, becauses hes a short receiver. Much like Bush can never be a #1 back for a team because hes too small. but if used right, like Bush is in New Orleans, then he can be a game changer.
     
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    I personally would be extremely happy with Willis(who most likely won't make it to us at #9) or Brown in the 1st....
     
  4. chada456

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    I respect your choice of Ginn but IMO there are always a bunch of Ginn-like recievers in drafts. The type of reciever who would never be a #1 reciever but are fast as lightning, can return kicks, and really be a threat everytime they touches the ball. He doesn't have the best hands and doesn't run the best routes. That is why I suggested grabbing Higgins in later rounds bc he reminds me of Ginn and some have even said Higgins is better, just played for a smaller school. Higgins could be an under-the-rader type guy
     
  5. chada456

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    You think Willis will get picked by one of the teams BEFORE the Fins pick? Highly unlikely.
     
  6. LostInPatsLand

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    Believe it or not, I've heard from somewhere that Willis looked like a 2nd rounder not a first rounder after the senior bowl. I will have to check my sources, but I did hear that.
     
  7. chada456

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    Ya I read that too. I believe it was Mel Kiper who said that. He also said that Paul Posluzny (sp?) will be taken in the 3rd round. I dont know how the guy has done in the past, but this year Kiper is making some bold and IMO idoitic statements.
    Patrick Willis is the best LB in the draft. I think its hard to argue against that.
     
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    I want Ginn,He brings two elements to this game that this franchise has never,i mean never had before,

    A player with the speed and skill that can score on a 5 yard hitch route,a player that can line up anywhere on the field with a creative cordinator calling the shots.

    Two,an explosive punt and kick returner that will create advantages for our team
     
  9. chada456

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    Take a look at Higgins. Another exciting playmaker who sometimes plays too fast as one scout said about him during senior bowl practices lol
     
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    Wow! a 2nd rounder!:eek:
     
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    That's what's being overhyped...Tedd Ginn Jr is 6-1!!!

    And there is no WR in a long time...if "ever" that is a fast as Ginn Jr.

    Tedd Ginn Jr will be our Steve Smith and Marvin Harrison but 6-1...
     
  12. LostInPatsLand

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    On Willis From Mel Kiper and ESPN Insider:

     
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    Mike13 I am a golden god

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    **** Pos in the third? Why would he fall that far?
     
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    Again from Kiper...

    I recall there was a linebacker with a bunch of question marks from Texas Tech drafted by the fins in the fifth round. I think He's worked out ok for us.
     
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    Is Kiper going nutz or what?:confused:
     
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    One thing about Laron Landry- he likely would not take as long to learn the system, as dont forget where he is coming from... thats right, LSU. Thus, he is likely to have some familiarity with that guy from Tuscaloosa's system. Furthermore, if our scouting staff truly believes Landry is a sure thing and the best DB in the draft, the Fins will not hesitate to move Jason Allen permanently to corner and play Landry and Bell as the safeties.
     
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    C'mon Totore at least let Lost check his sources.

    Mayock and Kiper are asleep now.

    Lets see what they say at 4:00 pm.

    Lost has the inside scoop. :D
     
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    I think Ginn Jr. is the guy we have to take. Our receivers just have not gotten it done....Ginn can break it anytime and would create nightmares for opponent's defenses. He can also be a kick/punt returner if Wes is used more as a receiver. I think we need a #1 receiver and CC aint it.
     
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    Wasn't Paul on the cover of NCAA 07!? Hopefully it's not like the Madden curse!! LOL
     
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    Bell is a free agent, and just because Landry gets drafted, he could play the safety spot opposite Allen(doesn't mean Allen gets moved to cb).
     
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    T.Smith/Jarrett one of them.
     
  22. chada456

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    And Ginn? a #1? He definitely "aint it" either. Atleast Chambers has the numbers to prove he has the potential to play the #1 recieving spot. Ginn is athletic and fast but its the NFL, everyone is. He outperforms players in college when hes in wide open space. In the NFL, no player is ever in wide open space. Hes a career slot reciever/punt returner who'll probably lead the league in fumbles do to his frail upper body. You want a true #1 reciever, Fins needa draft Dwayne Bowie aka Anquin Boldin. ;)
     
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    Does Kipper have a 1st round LB out there if Willis and Poz are not?
     
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    Pretend for a second that the Fins do not trade their 9th pick and at the time of the draft, they have not signed any FAs. Lets say for arguments sake, G. Adams, J. Anderson, Branch, Russel, Quinn, Thomas, Johnson, and Peterson are all off the board. Who would you like the Fins to draft with their 1st overall pick?

    Using your parameters: Levi Brown, the highest rated player on the board at a critcal position.

     
  25. zonk4ever

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    Assuming each guy tests / measures well - either Brown or Ginn.
    Not many LT's that can come right in and play.
    Not many WR'S with 4.2-4.3 speed with receiving / return skills.

    All other need areas can be addressed via free agency and or later rounds.
     
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    I think what a lot of people miss about Ginn is the all around effect he would have on the offense. I'm not just talking about what he can do with the ball in his hands, but how much defenses had to adjust to his speed every single game, much like Reggie Bush. I really think after watching the NC game we saw that Ginn taking pressure off of the offense had a lot to do with the entire success of OSU's offense, most notably Troy Smith.
     
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    too bad he doesnt remind anybody else of ginn. i read a post yesterday where u slammed teddy ginn and compared this guy too him. u can compare all u want but ginn is the most explosive player in the draft.
     
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    r u serious? chambers was a clown last year. dwayne bowe isnt half the playmaker that ginn is.
     
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    I think J allen could go to cb anyway. Saban wanted him to be able to play safety and he can..kinda. I think he wants to be at cb.
     
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    I like some of the guys u have selected...The 2 I dont like as much are Bowe and Ginn.

    Bowe and Ginn are not very good route runners ecspecially GINN and neither have the best of hands...Who ever compared Ginn to Harrison or Smith is gotta be drinking bottles of cough syrup...Harrison is the best route runner in the NFL and Smith is a top 5...They both have the speed i say the Dolphins need in a bad way but IMO are not gonna ever be #1 wrs which the dolphins need in a bad way.

    The 1 thing i dont get is u got Bowe up there but no Rice fron SC.
     
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    Ted Ginn is not that good

    what's up with you guys and Ted Ginn, the guy is fast, but so is every other wide receiver. We need to concentrate on our defensive and offensive fronts. If Alan Branch is there, we should take him. Ginn is in the mold or Terry Glenn, just a nice receiver, we can get a good receiver, like that Rice kid from South Carolina, maybe in the 3rd round. If we take Ginn at #9 we would be making a mistake, and you guys will be on here dogging out the GM for making a mistake. We need to find another Marques Colston, and I think the guy is Rice in the 3rd round. Unless Calvin Johnson slips to us.
     
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    wow. sidney rice might go top 20.
     
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    well i think kiper is trying to say thats what they are worth, but teams will take them earlier beacuse they are the best LBs avalible
     
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    where did you get the idea that Sidney Rice will be available in 3rd round? Cuz bro, he prolly be gone around 20-25...he's a stud.
     
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    Plus Higgins is more rounded and runs much better routes.

    I would hate to use round one pick and money for something you could get in either the 3rd or 4th round.

    As chada456 has said "DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND WATCH HIGGINS"
    Check youtube for any video or just research the guy.I cant wait to see how his 40 times will be at the combine...My guess would be 4.3 to 4.35
     
  36. slackman9

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    Players have been known to slip in drafts, hopefully Rice will be there in the second round for us, but that's not a big need for us, we need to address our needs. That means getting a DT in the first round and getting a offenive linemanin the second. I mean, those old defensive linemen we have, they may not be there next year, cuz Kevin Carter is making too much money, so he's gonna have to take a pay cut, or get cut. It all depends on what we do in free agency, Dielman may be our guy, and if he is, then it's a no brainer to go defensive line in the draft. We don't need anymore Jamar Fletcher's, John Avery's, Yatil Green's, or any other first rounder we've taken lately that have busts, we have to start drafting winners, and Alan Branch, or that guy from louisville(okoyi, i think that's his name)are winners, we definitely have to go D-line, and can you guys kill the Ted Ginn thing, if we draft him, we would be dogging the front office out on wasting a pic on him, 1 of the linemen i mentioned will be Pro Bowlers. I don't have anything against Ginn, he's just not that good, and he wouldn't be a good fit for our fins.
     
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    IMO, Ted Ginn Jr is not even the best receiver on his own college team. Also, Wes is already a very good return man, so please stop talking about Ginn. UGH! We need OL in the first round and then another OL in the second. Take DB's & WR's in the rounds after that. We certainly do not need anyone in the front 7 of the defense, as I think they proved it this past year.

    The offense was abyssmal and OL is the place to start. If we get Ricky back, then we have the R&R combo in the backfield. That, coupled with an improved line will make ANY QB look better.

    Now, we're 3 months too early on these projections b/c we don't know who we'll sign from the FA market. If we get Steinbach from Cincy, or another big name OL, it would sure be a GREAT start. Then the priorities in the draft start to change a little.
     
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    I'm praying that Gaines Adams falls to us. If not him, then LAron Landry, Amobi Okoye or Alan Branch.
     

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