*****Florida State Seminoles Football****

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  1. Buddy

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    Ummmm, I don't feel any better after that "win".
     
  2. FSU Truth

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    Yeah, nothing this season looks good...Jimbo needs to put some effort into getting some good lineman...stop with these 2 star guys and hoping you can coach them up. I was ready to fire Kelly last year and nothing has changed this year. Great DB coach, poor DC.
     
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    Good luck next week guys ... just kidding :)

    Should be a fun match up.
     
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    It won't feel as good beating a FSU team that is not ranked. ;)
     
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    Our offensive line is straight trash. I know they've had injuries but they have been dominated for three straight games. They fail at the basics and that's not like a Trickett offensive line. I don't mind getting beaten nearly so much as totally whiffing and letting your QB or RB get killed.

    I totally agree with you on Kelly. They looked better in the fourth quarter but he damn near let them come back on the final drive. He does the Olivadati Prevent Defense which sucks donkey! If they only needed a fg, we would have been in overtime or lost. I despise that man as DC. We got screwed when Pruitt left, big time.
     
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    For the first time in a while, I'm very nervous about Miami. If we don't improve immensely, y'all will kick our *** and so will Clemson and Louisville. The announcers say it's the freshman QB but he isn't responsible for our horrible offensive line, receivers dropping the ball, and very inconsistent defense.
     
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    Miami is gonna kill FSU. Good luck folks
     
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    We aren't dead yet, don't count your chickens!
     
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    Forget the records. This is gonna be a good one. Usually is :thumbsup
     
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    I hope we are at least competitive.
     
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    Hope the weather stays away. If not and it's wet and windy probably lot's of turnovers plus missed kicks and it's anybody's game.
     
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    You never know what to expect when those two play.
     
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    I would say good luck but I don't mean it. :laugh

    I rally hope that you all get a chance to see some fine jewelry..... multiple times. ;)

     
  15. FSU Truth

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    AS much as I don't think we will win, I will say that outside of the 0-line we are significantly more talented at pretty much every other area. The thing that is killing us is coaching, especially on the defensive side of the ball...Charles Kelly has 4 1st rounders on that defense with a couple of day 2 guys, yet he can't get them to play competently together. IF he does and they do, I would not be surprised to see them shut people out, but I'm not sure he can get them to play at that level.
     
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    Nah man, this Miami front 7 is every bit as talented as the FSU front 7 (I would give the FSU Dline the advantage but give the Miami LBs the edge). We have advantages at QB, WR and RB (assuming Walton plays). You guys of course have the secondary advantage with James leading the way. Both offensive lines aren't great but I agree Miami's is probably a bit better than FSU's group.

    Miami is the better team right now and should win this game, but this is Canes/Noles in Tallahassee . . . You can always expect the unexpected.
     
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    RB? WR? Cam Akers is the second most talented player on either team, granted he is only a FR...and Patrick is still getting his senior work...but once Jimbo makes the move to feature him...it is a wrap. Tate and Noonie are both legit NFL talent at WR. FSU LBs are always average at best.
     
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    Idk much but Richards and Walton are NFL talents. Especially Richards. Maybe fsu is deeper at the positions although Miami is deep at RB in particular.
     
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    I mean you said FSU was "significantly" more talented pretty much everywhere else but offensive line.

    I can give them RB, Despite Mark Walton being more decorated than anybody on either roster, but Akers should end up being the best potential pro out of them all and that goes to his talent. Don't sleep on Travis Homer tho, he has made a huge leap from freshman to sophomore and he's a complete back with speed and hands. Its close.

    Not at WR tho, Miami has as complete of a WR group from a talent standpoint than any team in the country. They have the star (Richards), they have the possession warrior on Sundays (Berrios), they have height (Cager) and they have three highly recruited freshmen (Harley, Thomas and Dallas). They are loaded at receiver.
     
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    FSU has got to fire Charles Kelly. He is single handedly destroying this team. Many of FSU losses the past several years have been a direct result of fourth quarter defensive collapses. He has got to go!
     
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    Such an epic finish
     
  22. phins_4_ever

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    Onnnnne annnd threeeeee....sing it with me.

    'FSU is 1 and 3....1 and 3....1 and 3.
    For FSU there will be no bowl game under the xmas tree....heyja heyja ho.'
     
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    I really hope that this game was the proverbial straw that breaks this camel's back.
     
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    Though it is completely overdue in my opinion, I don't think he's going anywhere. The defensive stats are good overall, it's just the collapses when the game is on the line that kill us. Look at the second half of every game this year, our defense got gashed, especially in the fourth quarter.
     
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    You might be right...If we lose to Louisville, we may not even be bowl eligible. At this point, if be shocked if we beat Louisville. What a disaster!
     
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    If you lose to Louisville you have to win out to make it to 6 games. With a game @Clemson that is highly unlikely.
     
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    Yep, losing that game to the hurricane early in the year has really screwed us as has losing to the Hurricanes on Saturday. Maybe missing a bowl game will prompt them to fire Charles Kelly because he's directly responsible for the losses to Miami and NCST. We could have given Blackman an easy game to get his feet wet but Irma killed that or whichever hurricane it was. NCST is a tough game for a first start.
     
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    You are not giving the Canes enough credit. If that game would have been played on the original date the Canes D would have eaten Blackman for lunch. That extra game gave Blackman enough extra experience to look decent against the Canes.
     
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    You very well could be right but having three patsies to prepare for FSU couldn't have hurt. Either way, enjoy the victory and run the board. Don't get a big head and **** the bed like Louisville did last year. Bring the NC trophy home to Florida where it belongs.
     
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    No doubt the three patsies helped us as well. But I think the odds when a young new defense plays a freshman QB in his first start would still lay with the young new defense.

    There will be no NC for the Canes, not even an ACC Championship. This team is still to young and inexperienced. Winning the Coastal and getting to the ACC Final should be the goal and is probably as far as they will go. The next game will be very telling for the Canes.
     
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    Clemson is bad ***, no doubt. I wouldn't be shocked at all at a three-peat of an Alabama- Clemson NC. I would still rather keep it in Florida but another ACC NC would be just fine. At least Miami finally has a great coach.
     
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    You guys better watch out. Our defense is coming to Tallahassee this weekend to hit you with our purses. Of course they'll then apologize for hitting you with their purses and offer you a tissue and a mint.
     
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    'Noles fans? How is that season coming along? Two and five.
     
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    The UF-FSU game will never be less relevant
     
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    Not sure I would label Richt a great coach. His teams struggle against ranked opponents. He’s good but Georgia fired him in spite of consistent 10 win seasons because of his issues with top opponents.
     
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    He couldnt take the next step but Richt was a very very good coach and built a program that was mediocre back into a relevent national program. I think he is perfect to rebuild the Canes
     
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    Compared to Jimbo right now, he's a wizard!
     
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    Richt has a history of winning 10 games a year but never the big one (natl champ)
    Just getting us back to that level is great. With the talent bases we are recruiting he'll get another shot at that prize in the next few years IMO
    Maybe this year which i'm not counting on but hey , you never know :)

    One of his biggest strength was hiring excellent assist coaches. Diaz and coach Cool are outstanding and excellent recruit guys as well. He doesn't micro manage and let's them do their thing. His play calling needs some work that's for sure.
     

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