Gase vs. Shula...

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  1. SmokyFin

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    ...Mike Shula that is.

    What did Gase ever accomplish in his career that made him more of a head coaching prospect than Mike Shula?
     
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    Nothing....he rode Payton Manning's coat tails but other than that he's been mediocre at best.
     
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    Has Mike been a HC yet?
     
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    Only at Alabama.
     
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    This game did not show Shula's brilliance, merely the complete failure that is the Miami Dolphins' defense.
     
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    Well Shula had Burke completely off kilter for a good while.
     
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    Allowing an opposing passer rating > 120 gives a team almost no chance of winning. And they've been poor in that regard all year.
     
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    Mike Shula is well known as a Father figure to young players; has been for years, even before Cam Newton said it.

    He will be an excellent head coach, and if he falls into the right situation, he may be a HC for decades. He has the makeup.

    What his father said is very true. Good luck in football is having a good QB.

    I think Cam Newton is an overrated buffoon. I am actually shocked they have done so well with him QBing. More credit to Shula.
     
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    Excellent point. Basically all of your posts are excellent.

    The difference in fortune between the two Miami teams this season can be isolated to pass defense. The Dolphins are horrid while the Canes are superb. The Canes are tied third nationally in yards per attempt allowed at 5.5, tied for third in interceptions at 16, and fourth in passer rating allowed:

    http://www.cfbstats.com/2017/leader/national/team/defense/split01/category02/sort04.html
     
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    Not hard to have a good defense with Kuechly as your MLB.
     
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    Mike Shula is one of the finest men you will ever meet,but don't let the last name fool you,if you meet him you'll understand why
    he is not head coaching material.
    O.C. is it for him....If he somehow manages to get a headcoaching job(lord,don't let it be us) he'll go the
    same way as his brother,David...
     
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    agreed but my 13 year old could have game planned against our D. We are not good and when Carolina plays a real D with a real coaching staff they will revert to what they were. We make other teams feel good about themselves and make other teams players have career days.
     
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    It was about 75% our defensive players playing like ****, and 25% our defensive coordinator being out-coached, in my opinion.
     
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    I hear what you're saying but does a coach really have to be a screamer or have a constant smirking, smart-*** attitude like our current coach in order to have a team's respect? Or to have success? Tony Dungy and **** Vermeil are two good examples of coaches that didn't.

    If you're good at your job and you treat people fairly and with respect then you can still be a success without being an overbearing *******.
     
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    I about lost my **** at the title of this thread. A public beating was imminent...

    ....until I saw it was Mike Shula.

    Very well, carry on.
     
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    Right so you would not have hired Tom Landry or a litany of other HOF coaches because they had low key personalities. Your post is prejudicial and wrong.
     
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    Mike Shula would not come to Miami as a HC....his last name alone would make the expectations outrageous and some fans would be screaming for his head after 8 weeks if we had a losing record
     
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    If his name was Mike Brown, he would not be on any of your radars. He's not coming to Miami because the pressure would be too much for him.
     
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    You don't have a clue.....Tom would get on your *** in practice,he didn't have to yell to scold you...Mike never held anybody accountable...missing meetings,missing weightlifting nothing.
    I went to school with Mike,great guy...just doesn't have the demeanor for being a head coach.
    Now,name me all these other HOF coaches that were shrinking violets and never held their players accountable?
     
  20. Kingdom Come

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    Your comments appear more fictional than your avatar character. Are we also to believe you were sitting in on Cowboys practices back in the 70's??
     
  21. J. David Wannyheimer

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    Uh, in fairness to Namor, I have heard EXACTLY the same comments about Shula's time at Bama from tons of other people, including Auburn fans. "Good guy, bad head coach."
     
  22. Namor

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    No...but I sat right beside him in English,*********...and what you believe is irrelevant to the truth..
     
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    Knock it off gentlemen. Debate the thread topic and do not make it personal.
     
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    These threads...Yikes! Moreover, They're supposed to show how unqualified or inept our coach is I supposed. But if anything they reveal more about the....
     
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    This team screwed up when it allowed Todd Bowles to walk!!!
     
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    The same Todd Bowels who's team record is worse than ours this year and last year?
     
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    Short answer, yes. The Jets were tabbed to be the worst team in the league with the Browns in all pre-season prognostications. He has done a great job to win as many games as they have with a 38 year old journeyman qb, and an even crappier o line than we have. His team smacked us around early in the year if you care to remember.
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    Do you really want to compare QBs? Theirs currently vs. Jay Cutler? Their overall Offense vs. ours? Their overall Defense vs. ours?

    Be respectable and take your L and be done with it.
     
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    I remember he turned down interviews the year Carolina made the super bowl. While that was commendable in some ways (focus on task at hand), I think that gave the impression he wasn't interested in a head coaching job.

    Who knows what kind of coach he would be. I think he did a pretty good job in Alabama, considering the school was under heavy NCAA restrictions. Than again, Nick Saban comes in and brings it back to national prominence, taking the program to another level.
     
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    I don't think Todd Bowles is anything special from what I've seen of the Jets the last couple of years.

    This board would be calling for his head even more than it's calling for Gase's right now.
     
  31. Kingdom Come

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    Why would Auburn fans be an authority on how the Bama coach handled his business??

    Do you guys have any idea how absurd you sound??



    This drivel is not believable or credible in any way, and it's not funny any more. No more time for this.

    For anyone who interested in reality, try this...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Shula
     
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    Ok..then..explain this...Mike is 53 years old...been around a LONG time...his last name is SHULA..yet he has barely had his name mentioned
    for any head coaching jobs...the only one ever has been HERE....
    He is such a great head coach ,everybody is scared to hire him...Is that what your preaching?
    You sir...are posting drivel...
     
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    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/pag...me-predictions-projected-records-all-32-teams

    https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/09/05/nfl-predictions-2017-playoffs-super-bowl-picks-awards

    And those are the first couple that popped up - no research.

    All of them have the Jets finishing last in the East, and finishing lower than the Browns. I can spend some time proving a WIN. I just said that Bowles has done an outstanding job of coaching nothing to four wins - including one over your favorite team. I said nothing about comparing individual players or sides of the ball. I said the Dolphins dropped the ball on Todd Bowles - AN OPINION of mine - and I was commenting on the fact that they have won 4 games using a 38 years old qb not comparing him to our crappy 34 year old qb - but hey man, if that should be considered a loss - then a loss it is.

    Head back to elementary school and learn how to read the English language - and no, not being "respectable" to someone who is disrespectful!!

    Sorry mods, if I didnt post those articles properly...
     
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    Gase and Bowles both suck.

    After seeing how we beat Jets at home Gase should have known better than to go for points against Carolina at the end of the first half especially considering they're the NFL's #1 ranked defense and the way Cutler was throwing the ball. That's how we beat the Jets... Bowles was trying to get points backed up in the red zone. McCown threw a pic to Bobby McCain, the only difference is in Bowles he had more of a reason to make that call because you never know who would win the coin toss in overtime.

    You could argue both of those pics were on the quarterback Cutler and McCown. Fact of the matter is the calls were made both by a couple of dumb coaches that made the same stupid mistake with their handpicked JAG journeyman quarterbacks. I guess you could make the argument for Gase that his quarterback went down before the season, so you have to kind of him a break for that.

    But, if you take a look at the Jets forums the majority of fans want Bowles outta there for not addressing the quarterback situation after having Fitzpatrick in there for 2 years. So what do they do this year? Decide to not draft a QB, and bring in McCown and naming him the starter despite having an "open competition" allowing their younger QBs Christian Hackenberg, and Bryce Petty to have a chance at the job. It seems to me like Bowles was just trying to save his *** from being fired this year, and that's why so many Jets fans are pissed. Everyone knew they weren't a playoff team yet they are too stubborn to even play Petty and Hackenberg this year to see if they are the answer before going into the 2018 draft.
     
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    All that to say nothing! If anything it completely improves my position.
     

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